Breaking Bad

good observation.

As for tonight’s episode, holy fuck, wtf, omfg, etc. THAT was crazy. Excellent.

edit: Axeman, yeah, you’re definitely on to something there.

[details=Spoiler]Todd is a great character. At first you see him and think, hey, this is the guy, when he finds the nanny cam. Then, they all clutched it out with the train. And then he does something like shoot the kid…

I’m with you though, he will be the next Victor. And … if Jesse catches on, like you say, it could be Walt vs Jesse? Drug war? Who knows man. Season 6 material maybe?[/details]

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I think Mike will take it worse than Jesse will, and Mike will actually kill the guy without thinking twice. But Todd isn’t the big issue here. That kid has parents who will be looking for him. A huge manhunt can happen because of that. That’s only if the kid is dead. If he’s alive, well, it makes a much more compelling next episode. [/details]

Damn Son, Breaking Bad, and shit, I shit my pants. I respect that decision. You got to do what needs to be done in order to keep your operation safe, but at the same time, fuck, was there another way?

Prolly coulda avoided that ending if Walt had followed protocol like he was SUPPOSED to, but no, his ego once again ruins shit for everybody.

This is more his fault in the Spider-Man sense of the phrase, in that it wasn’t really his fault save for some poor decisions that contributed to the actions of the person whose fault it really was… still, this is Breaking Bad, and Walt is ultimately far more culpable for everything in the web of events that has spread since season one than anybody else.

The remarkable ending aside, one of the small pleasures of Breaking Bad has always been in its depiction of meticulous, expert behaviors. As fascinating as Taxi Driver is, would it not be slightly less fascinating if it did not feature the manufacture of the gun glides almost as a miniature film in and of itself?

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Does anyone else find it funny that there’s a British lesbian drama called Lip Service?

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[details=Spoiler]Kid got shot in the chest and didn’t move at all. They’re scooping dirt onto a child’s lifeless hand in the preview. The kid has to be dead.

Also, they should have worn masks/suits of some kind. Wasn’t Jesse suggesting masks? At least give off the image you’re working on the train or something. Todd was too impulsive. He didn’t need to kill the kid; the kid’s wave meant the little guy had no idea what they were doing. Todd knew the train crew wouldn’t know about the robbery. Not like anyone’s going to be calling around about it. Why not just wear some lab suit shit if you’re nervous about being caught?

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This entire episode was just there to tell us one thing - there is no perfect crime and demonstratively so…

The Todd guy is sticking around for a while and he represents what a rational person detached from his emotions would do. That kid is dead, that was a big ass gun. I’m really going to hate seeing Jesse get all emo for the rest of the season, the dude only stopped crying a few episodes ago. Here we go again.

Although I agree with your fear/contempt for that possibility, I don’t see Jesse getting emo. I see him getting angry.

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Skyler is going to find out about the kid through news outlets and figure it had something to do with the train heist. Shes going to attempt to snitch Walt out sooner or later. I can see Walt killing Skyler and making it look like suicide, I doubt Hank and Marie would question it too much after that pool incident.

I don’t watch previews.

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The kid waved hi, and Todd waved goodbye.

:confused:…Did you just start watching Breaking Bad at season 5? The man killed several people, manipulates others to suit his wants/needs, turned down a job doing what he’s trained to do with a health plan, pretends that everything he does isn’t due to his addiction to the power and control his new lifestyle has afforded him.

Oh yeah and being involved in the meth game isn’t very high on the moral totem pole.

When he said that I jumped out of my seat and did fist pumps:rofl:

Even before that, he sided with Mike in killing the madrigal chick. He also sided with Mike on killing the crew of the train.

Clearly there will come a time where Jesse mediating skills won’t be enough to stop Mike and Walt’s cold war from breaking out into complete chaos. And when that time comes Jesse will be forced to choose a side: The right hand man of the formerly evil drug lord who he’s come to have an almost parental bond of respect with after saving each others lives more than once. Or the man who was his partner from the beginning, sticking by him through thick and thin only to gradually reveal how far he is willing to throw himself into the abyss of immorality.

Great episode, and more then most if not all others I think it encapsulates the conflicted feelings Vince Gilligan and co want us to have about Walt. He was so scared of Gus for possessing so much cunning and foresight yet such an opponent pushed Walt to gain some of that for himself and now we see what a slick and intelligent badass he can be, it’s even fun to watch Walt be Walt. However, that being said ultimately we know Walt is just as morally reprehensible as Gus possibly even more so, remember when Walt got mad at Gus for possibly using kids in his operation?:rofl:

I can see him getting emo, only because they’ve gone there before. What would be unexpected (and maybe more powerful in the long run) is if he didn’t flip his shit.

Todd

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This guy’s practically got disposability built into his character description. I’m betting he doesn’t stick around for long. He’s a Red Shirt.

Actually, the more I think about it, the more each season of Breaking Bad seems to fall into its own movie genre. This season, it’s action/heist movies. That’s what dictates the internal logic of the story and, just as much, what dictates what the show isn’t.

just finished the new episode, and i was like, YO DAAAAAAMN, then i realized the last action of the episode made absolutely no god damn fucking sense especially considering what walter explained to everyone present, and really, yet again doing things without any regards to covering your face, or dressing up to pretend to be a part of whatever environment you are in.

THIS SHOW IS FUCKING TERRIBLE. 1 MORE EPISODE, then i give up. NOTHING in this show is believable at all. it lacks even the most basic of common sense, and shoutout to matt damon. LOL. yall know that nigga look like matt damon. must be some weird genetic thing, because that one office episode where michael finds out stan is cheating on his wife, that one kid looked like matt damon too. maybe its like some low level downs syndrome shit.

Im not going to dislike him for being in the Meth game, that was the premise of the show. Im also not going to hate him for not accepting their “job offer” and are now only wanting to help because they know Walt is going to die.

The two people he ran over are of no issue because he was saving Jesse’s life, and killing Gale was also of no consequence to me because it was him or Gale.

hIm killing krazy was in self defense.

I really don’t see why people dislike walt (excluding the fact that he is in the Meth game) up to the end of Season 4. Him screwing with the little kid (Andrea’s?) was the first real questionable thing he has done.

You don’t seem to understand that being an emotionally manipulative psychopath who uses every one of his friends and immediate family members and ruins their lives just as badly as his own is sort of a bad thing.

That ending was something else you gotta do what you gotta do no matter what.

I think this is the start of Jesse turning on walt for good this time and helping bring down everything

Clearly you miss the point of the show which is pretty obvious to everyone else…hmm wait…thinking Walt only killed 2 people…justifying premeditated murder…calling another attempted murder “questionable”…these bullshit rationalizations sounds familiar.

look, I get that part, its apperant and more predominant trait at the end of season 4, and in season 5. Which is why I said, I don’t get the walter hate up till Season 5.

So Walter should have left Jesse to die, and he should have let Gus kill him because it was the right thing to do right? Screw self preservation, Gale life is more valuable than Jesse and Walters.

And yeah, him screwing with the kid is questionable. Why is he doing it, when he shouldn’t have done it. Do you want me to be straight up literal with my word usage?

[LEFT][details=Spoiler] For the duration of this entire series, Mike is the only one to demonstrate common sense. Time in and time out he has let us know exactly why you never get involved with a noob. That’s exactly what we saw this episode. NoobTodd has officially turned this period of somewhat peace and tranquility into chaos. On another note, is it me or was that kid’s death completely unnecessary. I mean what are the chances that a 13 year old boy would even know what they are doing. For all he knew, they could have been doing engineering work on the train or construction of the bridge even though it was blatantly obvious that they weren’t. There was virtually no risk of attracting authorities through a child witness that stumbled upon the very last moments of a successful heist… Certainly not enough to shoot him. Even if that kid somehow had an idea of what they were doing, how would he have been able to explain it to the authorities in time before they removed the methylamine out of the tankers and transported it somewhere else? He lives in the boonies. Who’s he going to run and tell? He took a completely harmless incident and turned it into a monster against them. [/details][/LEFT]