Boxing Thread

Any news whether the mega fight can be salvaged?

Nope.

As long as Bob Arum is content on posturing and being a Mayweather hater this fight is done.

your best post by far.

Really, Nate Campbell? Plenty of welteweights to choose Floyd.

yep, nate campbell nor any of the 140 pounder would do it. he should fight the winner of mosley/berto fight to be relevant. and whomever he fights, he better put that usada testing in the contract or he would look biased if he won’t.

from al bernstein:
Many things have been said and insinuated to make this look like a more complicated situation. But, none of them really hold water. Here are some facts.

Manny Pacquiao has never tested positive in a drug test.
Manny Pacquiao is one of the hardest working and most disciplined fighters in the sport.
Manny Pacquiaos success as he moved up in weight has been fueled mostly by a change in style and tactics rather than added strength.

 One of the most astonishing things to me is that fact number three keeps getting ignored by the folks who somehow believe that  all of a sudden  its reasonable to assume that Pacquiao above all other boxers needs a special set of testing rules to participate in a big fight.  People who are supposed to know boxing are throwing out this most obvious  truth in their argument that Team Mayweathers smear campaign on Pacquiao is OK.\

When Pacquiao was fighting in those legendary wars with Erik Morales, Marco Antonio Barrera and Juan Manuel Marquez in the 126-130 pound range he was a completely different fi9gjhter. He walked straight in and threw mostly jabs and straight left hands. He would occasionally mix in an upper cut here and there, and very seldom a powerful right hook. He seldom punched in combinations and used little lateral mo0vmenet. He was actually a pretty one dimensional fighter. He won because he had power, punching accuracy, and a great will. His fights were often wars of attrition because of his stylistic deficiencies. Given those deficiencies it is actually fairly amazing that against three hall of fame fighers, Marquez, Morales and Barrera, he went 5-1-1. Its a testimony to his power and toughness.

 When he decided to move up in weight, Freddie Roach rightly recognized that if  Pacquiao fought the way he had in the lower weights, somebody bigger would probably knock him out. So, at age 29, with the help of Roach, Pacquiao did what few boxers do at any age---he reinvented himself.  He became the very defiunitio0n of a boxer-puncher.  The Pacquiao that fought David Diaz, Oscar DeLaHoya, Ricky Hatton and Miguel Cotto at weights from 135 to 147 used hand and foot speed, an infinitely better right hand, and better defense to go along with power.  Anybody who professes to know boxing should have been able to see that.

No performance enhancing drugs can change your technique. Even though he stopped all of those opponents fighting at weights higher than he had previously fought atit was not power that made the difference. The difference was speed, ring generalship, combination punching and a vastly improved defense. Anyone that suggests otherwise and really believes it is stupid when it comes to understanding boxing.  Most of the people who surround Floyd Mayweather as promoters or advisers are not stupid when it comes to understanding boxing. Most of all my friend Floyd is not stupid when it comes to understanding boxing. He is, in fact, a genius. 

http://www.boxingtalk.com/pag/article.php?aid=19112

pls… don’t give me that al bernsein is stupid shit again…

Going to stop you right there. It won’t make him look bias in the way that you’re suggesting, it will just mean that he is not suspicious of the fighter he’s up against. He could of course do it to prove a point that taking the test is not a big deal but lack of it doesn’t really say a lot.

I hope he does ask for it because then it could cancel out Pac’s argument about the blood test making you weak.

if the thousands of olympians that have been drug tested without incident doesn’t cancel out that argument what makes you think anything else would? i wouldn’t be surprised if pac’s medical advisor is some witch doctor from the mountains.

i agree with that yahoo article, minus the part knocking the hatton fight since it was easily the biggest fight to be mad at the time. PBF should come off that 3/13 date and wait for whoever wins the berto/cotto fight…or just for the lols offer freddie roach’s other pet project, amir khan a shot (jk on that).

so what does it make him look like? a pussy then?

Because IMO this makes it a more direct argument because now you’d have someone else fighting Mayweather, going along wit the same test that Pac dodged. I don’t see how Pacquiao fans could counter debate that.

This post gets validity from your avi.

like you know boxing? gtfo here…

cherry pickers is one of the big problems in boxing right now so stop rationalizing if he has the right to chose whom he fights. champions must fight the contenters, period. or else what’s the point of being a champion?

I’ve only got one thing to add from reading another boxing article.

" Dick Pound, a former president of the World Anti- Doping Agency"

That’s all. Dick Pound.

Somebody ordered a pound of DICK?!!

Pac > Mayweather

haha good shit. You still practicing?

Yo, hit me up when you come up here.

Goodshit. You should come up to NYC…you can workout at my dads gym. We’ll get you there in no time. Whats your weight looking at?

Nice. I’m still doing what I do in video games, all defense and pretty much no offense. I can’t get it in my head to attack cause I always feel that I am doing something wrong. I may have to come down to SoVA one of these days. You can show me a thing or to :lo:

ok the tests came back negative for both pacquiao and mayweather

http://www.411mania.com/boxing/news/127060

Thats good. Im currently sitting at 172. Im content for right now. Im serious tho…if you’re ever in the nyc area hit me up. Afaik me and Hood Hair are the only posters who box in the area.