Man, none of the news reports I’ve seen even includes a medical expert to tell us if there is any meaningful difference between urinalysis and blood tests. If there’s anybody that knows any exercise and fitness pharmacology that would be great. What kind of drugs would actually not get picked up in a urine test, but would get picked up in a blood test? If anybody could answer, that’d be much appreciated.
pac agreed to take the tests, but only times before training and after the fight. the terms that he agreed on were only verbal so important things such as the randomness of the olympic drug tests must of been a miscommunication.
wouldn’t the result of a post fight drug test mean as much more than other random drug test?
i want this fight to take place cuz i DO wanna watch two great boxers blood drained and pass out in the middle of the fight. :tup:
HGH for one, can only be tested in Blood. There are some Urine tests that can detect it, but its all experimental and not approved for wide spread use yet.
Urine tests usually detects masking agents.
Yes and No. Performance Enhancing Drugs can definitely make training camp easier.
Also hormone levels would be off directly after the fight from what I’m hearing, so it wouldn’t exactly be the best time to test fighters for drugs.
Thanks.
Doesn’t Mayweather accuse anyone that he doesn’t want to fight as a steroid taker?
I mean shit, I’m with Freddie on this one. Pac agreed to get his blood immediately after the fight, so i don’t see the problem. I can see how testing him randomly before the fight will throw off his training though.
if you think giving blood for a blood test would throw off training then you have no idea wtf you’re talking about. track, swimmers and other olympic sport athletes have been being randomly blood tested multiple times leading up to competition for years and they’re doing just fine. it’s not like you’re giving a fucking pint and have to take it easy for the rest of the day.
I’m not an expert on these matters you’re right but I would imagine playing by Floyd’s rules would be a psychological thing, traveling to the doctor in between training because of what Floyd wants seems to have somewhat of a demeaning effect even if it is a slight nuisance.
Maybe causing Manny to be even more angry in the ring and playing into Floyd’s game from before the fight even started. I don’t know, something that the floyd camp wants to do to throw a wrench into Manny’s routine.
Also, Manny agreed to a blood test after the fight so but on the same token, maybe it’s because some drugs clear after a month or so.
All the pre-fight taunting and prima donna antics are supposed to have their psychological dimensions. And it’s not like Freddy Roach isn’t playing this game too.
Normal people that follow this shit just want to see the fight already.
Hmm. My bad. I guess if all fans wanted to see was a good clean fight, then 80% of this thread wouldn’t be about constantly following the drama between fights. And 24/7 just wouldn’t be the same without the coaches trash talking the other side on camera. So I’ll shut up I guess.
Man this is bullshit. They just killed boxing.
Nah im messin, The fight will happen
Dude Pacquio had a big birthday Party in the Phillippines the whole last week in his Province since the 15th. He’s wasn’t probably thinking about the fight at all the whole week. Mayweather’s camp just put that crap out there while Manny was celebrating. Mayweather took the first shot. It’s all mind games. The psychological warfare begins. I think it’s kinda dirty because Mayweather is trying to get everyone to get on his side while trying to make Pacquio the villain. The fight will happen this is all just hype.
this whole olympic drug test already tainted the whole damn fight.
before the end of the year it better be either pacquiao agrees to take the random blood tests or camp mayweather allowing tests before training and after the fight.
this is fucking stupid, papers were almost gonna be signed.
Pacqioa is looking bad because his team refused drug testing that both will be under
Very, very interesting watch.
Some thing’s to ponder IF Manny doesn’t take the test
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It’s 10 minutes long, but it gives a lot to think about.
Manny should take the tests. He really feels like it’s going to effect his training, but it’s really not going to effect him physically. It’s just going to effect him mentally if Freddie doesn’t get off his high horse and educate Manny about Olympic Blood Testing.
Right now, Arum and Freddie and most pacfans are only thinking that Manny shouldn’t be walked on and do what Mayweather tells him to do because Pac is the p4p king.
This has already reached the point for Manny that it’s not just his biggest fight thats on the line, but as the video above me talked about, it’s his legacy.
Manny should do some homework and Ariza and Freddie should help him out.
What’s wrong with taking the blood test right after the fight? I wanna see the fucken adrenaline level in that shit too.
I really think a lot of ya’ll are thinking too far into this. A simple trip to take a blood test is not mentaly taxing, not unless you have something to hide. You know what is though? Training hard to fight a strong opponent. Pacs trainer is being a little bitch, just take the test and get ready for the fight.
i just think it’s funny that pac’s camp is saying that they’ll agree to non-randomized drug testing that they’re allowed to schedule in advance…like does he seriously not understand how dumb that sounds?
anybody a doctor here? 'cause it seems to me a lot are assuming experts/pros about how/whatever drugs/drugtesting works.
if i we’re manny, i’d cancel the fight, then go take all the drug test know to man and if comes back negative, i’d sue mayweather sr. and earn the same amount of money without lifting a finger. but i ain’t, so…
i’d reckon this fight is still going to be made…
g.leon’s view.
http://www.boxingtalk.com/pag/article.php?aid=18946
dan rafael’s report.
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A chain reaction has begun.
If the fight is canceled now we have Juan Manuel Marquez and now Timothy Bradley saying that they’d only fight Pacquiao if he took the Olympic Style Random drug testing.
We also now have Oscar De La Hoya reneging on saying that “Pacquiao doesn’t hit that hard”. Now he’s saying that Pacquiao hit just as hard as Sugar Shane Mosley and Fernando Vargas(Vargas was busted for steroids. Mosley admitted years down the road that he was on steroids when he fought Oscar the 2nd time).
That would basically leave Pacquiao left to fight Top Rank cronies that Arum just throws in there.