All of this Floyd hating is the worst case of revisionist history that I’ve seen in a while. You give Pacquaio credit for cleaning out Featherweight, and don’t give Floyd credit for cleaning out Lightweight, when the level of fighters that he defeated is just as good, if not better. What did Pac do at lightweight? He picked off the weakest beltholder. You can compare it to Floyd’s campaign at Jr Welterweight, but at least he put in dominant performances against top 5 fighters before moving up.
Floyd moved up to fight at Delahoya’s natural weightclass. Against Pacquaio, Delahoya was pressured into fighting at a weight that he hadn’t fought at in almost 7 years. I have all the respect in the world for Manny, but you can find holes in anyone’s resume. Both guys are world class and have beaten world class competition across multiple weight classes. To try to denigrate either shows how little that you really know about boxing.
is that your defense? You label everyone as a hater? The radio guy was asking Mayweather questions. And Floyd was clearly fumbling.Can you hop off the band wagon already. Its like this, no matter how you look at it, A great attraction, a good show, not a great boxer. You have to prove you’re great. He’s just showing us he’s good, not GREAT.
What does a radio interview have to do with what happens in the ring? Floyd has won titles in 6 different divisions and has beaten 13 world champions. He’s an all time great, no matter what half hearted excuse that his detractors try to come up with. The facts can’t be disputed.
I really dont see why people are getting their feathers all ruffled. Why is it no one can say that both fighters are great and their hopefully upcoming match will be one that will represent our generation to be of legendary status.
I for one am looking forward to it and will expect pugilism at its best.
The radio interview matter because if you listened to it, it covers everything else that you said. Mayweather is full of it, some big publicity stunt.
“Not a great boxer”? Mayweather is probably the best pure boxer in the sport. Just because he doesn’t fly at dudes and throw punches like a rabid dog doesn’t mean he’s not a great boxer. Believe it or not, defense actually counts for something in boxing, too. And he’s probably the hardest person to hit cleanly. The best turtle in the sport.
All this started because I was trying to explain why many would believe Pacquiao would knock him out. Now I personally won’t consider someone great unless they beat someone great. I want to see him challenge himself and fight some bigger people or some pretty accomplished boxers out there. I hope this fight goes down. If Mayweather wins, hats off to him, he’s a great fighter in my book. If he loses but puts up a good fight, he’ll earn some respect. If he gets knocked out early, it’s what I expected.
Yeah, even as a “hater” (which I’m really not), it would be dumb for me to say that PBF is anything short of a phenomenal boxer. He knows the sweet science as good as anyone probably ever has. And as immature as he is, I know that he definitely takes the art of boxing very, very seriously. Floyd is a “great” boxer, no doubt. That’s the reason I would like to see him take some better match-ups.
If I am indeed a “hater”, it’s only because I think he’s a jackass.
I hope you all know that all the shit he talks on TV/radio is him just playing the bad guy role. I’ve heard from various people who have actually met him that he’s a nice guy. This whole jackass attitude that people hate him more is just him making more of a scene to increase sales revenue. He looks like an idiot and a condescending prick on ESPN and everyone is eating it up.
Ali, Tyson, Jones Jr, they all did the same thing.
Whats good about Pacquiao is that he’s constantly improving. By the time he fights MAyweather, he should be in the best form to do some damage to someone most people used to think of as untouchable. I think itll be a badass fight and the rematch will sell just as big.
The names are bigger on Pacs list I will admit, but on the flip side Mayweather has faced a much wider variety of styles.
Look at their last 15 fights.
You see a diverse number of styles on Mayweather’s list. Going on Pac-Man’s list, you see an abundance of “come-forward” brawl Mexican type fighters and a lack of defensive counter puncher types. Erik Morales and JMM were those guys, but he’s fought no one like that since or before. Oscar tries to be defensive, but Oscar being defensive at 147 is much different than him being defensive at 154.
Pac has improved in his general boxing skill yes, but technically Mayweather will be nothing he’s ever seen before, or hasn’t even really tasted yet.
Revisionist history is wonderful especially in boxing. Mayweather been called out Shane back in 2005 or 2006. Its just that Jin Mosley is mopping Shane up in alimony so now Shane finally wants that fight. The schedules also match up, so that fight can realistically get done.
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(There’s Mayweather calling out Oscar, Mosley, and Kostya back in 05 or 06)
Bob Arum said that Cotto wasn’t ready for Mayweather. There was no way that fight was going to be setup.
Baldomir hadn’t lost in 8 years. Zab at the time was Welterweight champ. Hatton was a monster at 140 before he moved up. No matter who Floyd fought within that time frame, he chooses to fight one guy, he’s gonna be lambasted for ducking somebody else. He had 2 mega fights, and he did what he wanted too in the welter weight division before taking a break off. Now he’s getting 2 more possible mega fights with Pac Man, and possibly Mosley. Makes sense to me.
I’m going to say this.
If this was a Cotto/PBF match i seriously believe Cotto would have shown a better performance and probably just loosing in a decision. That’s it. I don’t think Cotto would loose that badly to PBF unlike with Pac (please refer to Starvin’s pics of Cottos face).
From what i heard, Cotto didn’t want any more after the 8th or 9th round but his trainer wasn’t cool with it so that’s why the match went longer than it should have.
Dude, this post makes no sense at all. Pac’s resume has a bigger list, yet Mayweather’s list has much wider of styles? So what? You are forgetting the fact that those big names in Pac’s list weren’t just defeated but seriously destroyed. PBF has not destroyed nor decimated any of his opponents, and since you’ve just admitted that Pac’s opponents where factually bigger and part of the top tier list today, then what point is this huge wall of text on PBF’s case?
PBF will be running like storm. I agree, with Cisco’s statement on Cotto performing better and looking healthy after against Mayweathers. LOL at the variety of styles argument of yours. If the names and reputation of the opponents is bigger, then variety of styles has such a small factor for your argument. It’s obvious through their performances and Pac has given a much greater performance than PBF - a better resume and a much breath taking fight delivering… Pacquiao has been underestimated than later on freakin decimate his opponents beyond estimation. Just re-read a couple of pages back - just fresh after the Pac/Hatton fight and read the post from Thurst and other posters saying it’s crazy for Pac to choose Cotto… and just re-read up before the actual match. The fact that PBF had to walk to 10 rounds against Hatton (who wasn’t even comfortable in that weight), and then go through a full 12 rounds against JMM eventhough he appeared to surpass the weight agreement shows enough.
Pac is considered to be greater than Ali and SRL, this is not said about PBF.
We are giving him credit. The right one. PBF isn’t the best anymore (until he wins over Pacquiao in a non-controversial unanimous decision, or bullshits again by getting in the ring above the weight limit), it’s Pacquiao. Pac is 7, so i can give a rats ass about 5; Pac also makes our money’s worth by giving a good match both in action and ring intelligence.
We don’t give Pac credit for his victories, we give him credit for the destruction he brings in the ring, and shutting the mouths of ignorant people who underestimate him by saying “his next opponent will beat him”.
You’ve been proven invalid for a long time now, after your shit analysis before the Cotto/Pac match about now you should keep quite.
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Around round Just look at the expression of Cottos wife and kid at round 11. Can some one repost the reaction of Hatton’s family also?
Can some one find me dramatic reactions from the family’s of PBF’s opponents?
Because every win is supposed to look exactly like this:
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A win is a win. Mayweather’s victories are invalid because they all weren’t physical dismantlings? Because they’re point victories? Because the opponent was OUTBOXED and not beat up? Because no one’s crying for their fighter in the stands? Moral victories don’t mean shit.
I think Ken’s Dragon Punch is better than Ryu’s because Ken has flames on his.
If you want an example of PBF destroying someone then go watch the Gatti fight. Mayweather style in most cases don’t send people to the graveyard. People need to stop comparing victories of DLH and Hatton because it’s pointless. Both fighters have different styles which one of them has a higher KO chance.
No, he’s a jackass alright. He can be a nice guy all day long, but it doesn’t excuse him from being an immature jackass.
At least Ali and RJJ were likable personalities, despite all of the shit they talked. And they both backed it up, too.
The Golden rule is that styles make fights. Yeah its impressive that Pac Man beat a 140 Hatton in his weight class, but one styles make fights and two I wouldn’t underrate a fighter’s confidence level after losing that “0” and Mayweather was the first to give him that.
You seem to be under the impression that just because some guys bleeding up a storm, and people are singing for their fighter that being purely outboxed is somehow less of a win. The sweet science is to hit, and not get hit. If you call Floyd’s style “running” then I can do nothing, but shake my head.
And sure it does make a difference who you face. Why do you think De la Hoya never gave Sweet Pea a rematch after Sweet Pea schooled him? It wouldn’t be until later on that DLH lost to another defensive slick boxer, Shane Mosley.
What difference does it make if you stick people in front of Pac Man that stylistically are perfect pickings for him? Because he gets in a bunch of wars, and dismantles a bunch of Mexicans that have “names” that just stand there and brawl with him. Now all of a sudden the lack of defensive fighters he’s faced can be invalidated?
I think Pac Man would own regardless of weight, but still Cotto didn’t exactly seem crazy about the weight agreement. Pac Man destroying Oscar at 147 is not the same as 154. The win I was impressed with was 140 because Hatton hadn’t lost their yet, but mentally he may not have been the same fighter after he got KOed by Floyd.
Man, I’m growing tired of the PBF debate. Haters need to suck it up and realize that PBF if is indeed one of the best boxers this world has ever seen.
Nut-huggers need to realize that he’s a ridiculously boring trash talker that is content with taking the path of least resistance.
Oh right you don’t remember when Hatton’s girl was yacking into a bucket after Floyd knocked him out.
Way to perpetuate the hate 
Seriously, Floyd is just as world class a fighter as Manny is. Makes no sense that now we are looking at opponents families reactions just to see where a guy ranks on the pain meter.