lmfao!!! i love this sh*t mayweather nuthugging at it’s best…
floyd’s resume is shit, besides from DLH and Gatti, whoelse is HOF material there? and Gatti HOF material is not because of his skills but because of his heart… and he call himself P4P greatest?.?. say what?? lmfao…
yes, floyd has the best boxing skills ever but he will never have the respect from most people until he fights the best of them. results >>>> potential. walk the talk. yes, marquez was one of the best but not at the weight. and don’t compare marquez against pac on climbing weight because pac is just a freak of nature at climbing weights. and pac proved he could fight at higher weight class, marquez up until not proved it up to 135…
just like someone said before, it gets difficult defending mayweather… go on!! happy nuthugging!
I notice people would say so and so fighter could beat PBF and then when PBF beats said fighter, people turn around and say shit like “he’s garbage” and a whole list of excuses. Classic example of this was against Baldomir. Analysts that appeared the in the show countdown to PBF vs Baldomir were saying good stuff about Baldomir and saying he had what it takes to beat PBF. Hell there was that old interview with ESPN and the host ask PBF “Why don’t you fight Baldomir? He’s the Welterweight champion!!” I don’t know what fans AT THAT TIME were saying about Baldomir so people are free to prove me wrong of my point.
I always thought Baldomir was kind of a bum. I mean, he’s one of the toughest dudes in the world, but that doesn’t make him a good boxer. At all. He wasn’t WW champ all that long, and IMO, it’s because he was never all that great.
I mean no disrespect to the man. He could box circles around me, no doubt.
But yeah, I won’t argue your point. I don’t really remember what the consensus was in the boxing community regarding Baldomir. Whoever thought that dude had a prayer against PBF must have either been retarded or they were huffing paint or some shit.
I do remember that Jim Lampley and Larry Merchant were talking MAD shit about Floyd. Even Manny Steward was talking shit, and he NEVER does. They were criticizing PBF for bringing a snooze-fest to PPV, and how if Floyd lived up to his ego, then he would have knocked him out.
Take the dick out of your mouth. It’s like you have elementary school reading comprehension or some shit. Ain’t nobody making excuses, you dumb ass. THE WHOLE POINT IS THAT FLOYD TOOK AN EASY ASS FIGHT AND IT DOESN’T PROVE SHIT. YES FLOYD WON CUZ HE’S THE BETTER BOXER. DID WE WE NEED A FIGHT vs MARQUEZ TO FIND THAT OUT? REAL BOXING FANS ALL KNEW THIS.
DO YOU GET IT YET, YOU NUMBSKULL. He took a fucking pointless fight when he could have been fighting REAL WW. People like me are bitching cuz some how Floyd marks like you believe this fight is supposed to prove something, or solidify Floyd’s legacy or some shit. It doesn’t. It did nothing.
Once again, REMOVE THE DICK. If he made weight, WHY IS HE PAYING 600k? For fun? Cuz he felt like it? Cuz he’s Money May? Yeah, paying 600k for being 2 pounds overweight is making weight. You are still making shit up and you say I’m making excuses? Obviously Floyd fucked up, otherwise HE WOULD NOT BE PAYING 600k. Do you want me to repeat that again so it gets through? HE PAID 600k cuz he didn’t make weight.
stfu with that sappy shit. Trying to play that guilt trip shit, but it still doesn’t change the fact that the majority of names on Floyd’s resume are weak in comparison to the people Floyd compares himself to.
It’s not disrespectful if I say Gatti/Corrales/Baldomir are garbage… in comparison to names like Hearns, Duran, Hagler, Leonard. And it’s the truth, so you can get the fuck outta here with that sappy guilt trip shit. I have all the respect in the world for boxers.
Lol you must be pretty pissed off, nigga is pulling out block capitals. It’s funny that you make comments on my reading comprehension skills when you type in block capitals because you can’t muster the words necessary to express how angry, strongly you feel about something.
So what if we knew Floyd would win this fight. If he fought Cotto, Mosley and Pacquiao it would be the same thing.
Did I say or imply that this fight solidifies his legacy? I won’t deny that I think this fight is a nice win to add to the cabinet of victories but I’m not hailing it as the greatest of wins in his career.
Has it actually be proven how much money he has to pay or is this hear say? Where did I ‘‘make shit up’’. You claim that Marquez moved up 2 division that would make it a weltweight fight, Floyd weighed in at 146lbs below the WW limit of 147lbs is that a lie? No it isn’t.
No I’m being realistic about the situation. You calling his resume garbage is moronic and disrespectful, not so much to Mayweather but to the majority of professional boxers. For someone that claims to know a lot about the sport you speak like an abused bitch.
Actually is disrespectful to those fighters. Whilst I personally don’t think they reached the level of those fighters they are worthy of enough respect to not be considered ‘‘garbage’’ in their presence.
I didn’t bother pointing it out but I feel I should. I find it funny how you go from saying ‘‘His resume is garbage’’ etc. to it’s garbage in comparison. Trying to tone it down eh? lol you’re a joke.
Its like people are forgetting, gatti wasnt himself at all when he fought mayweather. Dude came from finishing one of the greatest trilogys this decade. shit, i am surprised he didnt retire after that last fight he has with ward.
lol if DLH was past his prime when he fought mayweather, what does that say about the emaciated DLH that fought pacquiao? i love how everyone wants to shit on PBF’s opponents but then when pac comes several months later and fights the same people, in worse condition all of a sudden he’s solidified as the p4p king lol
considering floyd’s camp was being cagey about the issue ever since the fight was signed and the contract he filed with the athletic commission said 147 on it i’d say both camps knew that he was coming in at 147.
well when everytime someone gets a victory and all that can be said is “oh he should’ve fought this guy…” and then the guy goes and beats that person and the string continues it’s pretty much textbook hating. i mean you got people talking about his “shoulder bullshit”…last time i checked it was called “blocking” and “dodging” and they were good skills to have…unless your PBF in which case it’s “bullshit” lol.
before it was gatti, then it was judah then baldomir/margarito/cotto…then it was DLH…then hatton. dude cleaned out 135 and 140 while he was there yet the shit never ends. if pacquiao ultimately runs thru cotto and mayweather are we gonna be saying that he needs to fight mosley and paul williams as well? shit is ridiculous.
Food for thought: Mayweather Jr. does fight top echelon boxers, but the “lowest” boxer within that echelon.
Before Hatton beat Tszyu, did people ever bring his name up? I know Tszyu has mediocre footwork but just about everybody can agree that he has the punching power to make up for it.
DLH wasn’t as past his prime as people make it look. He was fighting Mayweathers at the right rate and he lost to Floyd fair and square. Floyd was just a better fighter, same goes with Pacquiao. I understand the whole weight argument in concerns with the DLH/Pac but we all heard from DLH that he moved to that weight to gain speed in his battle with Pac. He still weighed in more anyway. How was Hatton, Morales, JMM, Barrera in their worse condition?
It appeared to be more than 147; 142-144 was the agreement. It doesn’t matter if both camps where aware that Floyd would be ignoring that rule… so what about it? Both camps new the mismatch, but seeing Floyd at that match it’s a no brainer to see that the weight limit was surpassed at a degree.
Cotto?
We are saying he needs to fight and beat Pacquiao.
You misunderstood. A mosley/pbf is like a Sugar Ray/Mayweather Sr of our generation; while a Pac/PBF (IMO) is like a Ali/Foreman match. Not result wise but the whole feel of it looks similar. PBF being the big ass guy while Pac holding an equal influential status to that of Ali (or to the Filipino people, at the least ). Give me green rep.
I agree with all the “we need a Pac/PBF match” stuff… i don’t care about opinions on PBF anymore, because he is great and i enjoy his intellectual fighting style. Pac had allot of good things to say about PBF in the Philippine Newspaper, but he believes he can do better.
pacquiao weighed in .5 lbs (or was it 1.5 lbs?) more than DLH. but regardless, i’m not the one saying that DLH was past his prime, but for those that do they should universally say that rather than only say he was past his prime when talking about his PBF fight but then turn around and slurp paquiao for beating the same guy.
the weight issue was HUGE imo, iirc he actually got on the pre-fight scale for the pac fight and he was still around 147 rather than the 160+ everyone speculated he weighed in on the night of his fight with PBF, either way though you can only fight who’s in front of you.
hatton was most definitely worse after the PBF or at least exposed. i posted in this very thread about how shitty he looked in his fight with some no name mexican following the PBF fight, his whole MO was fucked as evidenced by him trying to get floyd sr. to help him get his shit together. regardless pac tooled him something serious.
those were the only 2 guys i was talking about.
people assumed it was happening at 144, mayweathers camp never said that and considering they put specific language in the contract to deal with him not coming in at that weight marquez’s people knew that it wasn’t gonna happen at 144 either. i didn’t watch teh fight on HBO so idk what the fight night weights were but i doubt marquez was still at 142, i did hear that floyd wouldn’t get on the scales though.
honestly the only reason 144 was even thrown out there was to generate more interest imo.
yeah…now that’s what everybody is saying. before the DLH fight people were saying that cotto should’ve been getting the shot and assuming PBF/pac does eventually go down that fight will be discounted and then some other guy will be the “real” test for him.
I honestly never saw why ODLH was even taking fights with Floyd or Pac. A boxer has to know when to quit, man. He has made money off of every fight I’ve watched this entire decade because of Golden Boy. And to be honest, I don’t think he has really done shit since Vargas. He might have beat Sturm on the cards, but anybody that watched that fight will tell you that it was a robbery. I guess there’s the Vargas match, but after that, what? Mayorga? haha
As for fighters who I feel could actually TEST Floyd:
Paul Williams - Has a shitload of untapped potential and is a freak of nature when it comes to jumping weight classes. Motherfucker is pretty fast, too.
Miguel Cotto - I wouldn’t pick him as a favorite by any stretch. I think he’s too slow, but he makes up for a lot when mixing up brawling and boxing.
Shane Moseley - Nobody’s is as fast as Floyd, but I think Shane comes close enough. I think their styles are made for each other. Shane is as tough as anyone in the sport, and he’s fast enough to nullify most attempts for an opponent to play runaway games like Floyd does.
I won’t include him on the list, but I had hopes for Andre Berto. He looks like an amazing athlete, probably as fast as they come. His work ethic seemed as if it would take him far. Not sure whatever became of his trouble with the laws, but I think if he pushes his endurance a little more, he would look a whole lot better than he has in his past two fights.
Now, I’m not going to argue that he wasn’t past his prime, because this wasn’t the same DLH that whooped Vargas way back in the day.
But that match was hardly a given by anybody with half a brain.
Especially since Oscar was in there at Light Middle Weight size. Oscar was actually fighting back, comfortably for a while. Unlike that job he pulled when he went against Pacquiao.
His fights with Floyd and Manny were respectively the 1st and 3rd highest grossing fights ever IIRC. I know that Floyd vs DLH was the highest grossing. I don’t remember if his fights with Trinidad or Manny grossed more. Trinidad had more PPV sales though.
Point being, Oscar wasn’t some boxer in there past his prime fighting for no reason. I mean HE WAS, but alls considered that he probably made close to 100 mill if not more with just one fight with Floyd and tons of money from that one fight with Manny. That’s plenty of reason to step back in the ring, even if he did get his ass whooped.
I thought that fight with Manny would have made it blatantly obvious that at this point he’s in it for the money(Hell who isn’t?), not a legacy. Guess I was wrong
It’s funny, seeing shit in the boxing world I know damn well what will happen if Floyd beats either Mosley or Pacquiao. It has started already. Things are split, some think it is his duty to fight Mosley whilst some think it is his duty to fight Pacquiao. When he beats either of them, the people supporting the fight will jump ship and say he should have fought …
Mosley pulled out of the fight because he had a ‘‘tooth ache’’. I find it funny how the writer of that story cannot hide the bias it’s hilarious to me how he tries to paint Mosley ducking Mayweather as understandable and such.
If I was Mayweather I would pick Pacquiao over Mosley for the simple fact that in terms of legacy he will do more than Mosley as too many people both are the top boxers of this generation.
lol that article is dumb as shit. hagler and leonard actually fought and then leonard reneged on the rubber match giving hagler actual cause to hate him. just looking at the facts presented by this article…mosley moved up to higher weightclasses than floyd and then turned down an opportunity to fight floyd when it was presented to him and then after floyd was in 2 of the hugest fights of the year (DLH and hatton) and has a 3rd on the horizon mosley is crying like a bitch to get back in the mix…yeah.
reminds me more of hopkins and roy jones than hagler and leonard. hopkins fought in obscurity, built himself up while jones repeatedly ducked him and now that jones is old and can’t get any lucrative fights hopkins, who is now a big name, doesn’t care about him and is refusing to fight him on principle.
i like how before the fight you were slurping pacquiao talking about if PBF didn’t dominate marquez it’d prove pac was better than him…and now that PBF pitched a shutout you don’t have shit to say.
I underlined that because the whole '160+ everyone speculated he weighed in on the night" is an invalid claim. The fight was contracted at a welterweight limit of 147 lbs. I don’t understand where you got that “160+ everyone speculated” part.
Again, Hatton fought Pacquiao in his best weight. Quit trying to make it look as if PBF took on a harder stronger Hatton because it’s factual that Hatton fought Pac in his best weight/condition. The other parts in this quote is just your analysis on Hatton after Floyd which isn’t credible.
Who assumed? What does the public assumptions make a difference to the weight agreement. All your statements here are guessed out. The weight limit was documented and there was a penalty for surpassing.
i didn’t watch teh fight on HBO so idk what the fight night weights were but i doubt marquez was still at 142
That’s why do your research before arguing. You’re entire arguments are just composed of guesses. Marquez took the scale and did not weigh past the weight limit. So if he weighed in more than 142 (which is wrong, because it was said he weighed in 142) then his weight was 143 or 144. It’s still part of the rules.
Well, it looked like you put Cotto as one of the people PBF defeated. People wanted Cotto because Pac was still rising during the time.
I’ve probably said this before but Hatton to me is stronger at Welterweight. Just that the majority of WW have a size advantage over him so he has to cut his weight to make JWW where he can have a physical strength advantage.
Floyd was a smaller WW so the reason for him not fighting at WW didn’t matter. I can’t explain in more detail because I have things to do but the long and short of it is Hatton has to drain himself far less to make 147lbs.
Also I think Mayweather offered Cotto a fight at 140lbs but his ( Cotto’s camp) said he wasn’t ready.
You only have to make the limit the day before the fight. After that you can weigh as much as you want(correct me if I’m wrong). Generally fighters are 5-10 lbs heavier after the weigh in.