I don’t get the argument for Mayweather choosing a ‘shoddy opponent’. p4p #2 = Weak fighter?
At least the weight class argument holds some weight but you guys are letting how bad Mayweather won stunt that fact that Marquez is one of the BEST…FIGHTERS…IN…THE…WORLD. I actually gave Marquez a chance in this fight The fact that it was a blowout was astounding to me.
What are you guys gonna say when he beats Pacman? ‘Mayweather is a division//2 divisions above him of course he won?’ You guys are shrugging off a fighter who was cheated out of a win vs pacman due to a judge’s scoring error and fought him to nearly a draw in their second matchup.
Who even wants to see Mayweather/Mosley? Mosley’s current push is from a win vs a guy who got caught loading his gloves and had nothing left without them.
I suggest you fools sit tight, let Pacman get his ass whooped by Cotto, and wait it out so we can see the real fight people want to see.
nope. pac’s a 2 to 1 favorite. honestly i think cotto is gonna give pac the fight that everyone assumed DLH was gonna give before he came into the ring looking like a somalian and shit. if cotto can bully pac around and get him to try and trade with him then i think he’ll win, possibly by knockout.
i think pacquiao is probably gonna win…but at 2 to 1 i’m highly tempted to bet on cotto bcuz i think it’s a pretty even fight.
I’m just now getting into boxing and was wondering what’s the proper way to throw a jab? I was searching the internet and there seem to be several variations listed as the standard jab. One involves keeping weight placed evenly on both feet and using the quarter shoulder rotation + fist rotation to generate power. Another said that you should always make a step or a half step forward when you jab and then quickly step back. The last type involved switching your weight to your front foot when you jab. Is this the case were all of these jabs have their place or is there a standard jab that’s the best to learn for beginners?
Also, I enjoyed most of the fights last night except for the WBA Featherweight match.
Some you some dumb asses talking shit like you know boxing.
Why should Mayweather get credit for beating Marquez? Every single boxing expert predicted the way that fight would go exactly.
Mayweather ain’t stupid. He’s one smart mother fucker, in the ring and out the ring. He chose Marquez as his first fight back because it couldn’t have been an easier fight for him, style wise. Two counter punchers, you choose the younger, smarter, and most important of ALL, the FASTER guy. Everything Marquez is good at, Mayweather is better. Couple this with Mayweather’s athletic ability and speed, and anyone(intelligent) could only come to one conclusion: An easy as fuck win for Mayweather, which it turned out to be exactly that.
Honestly, wtf did some of you expect Marquez to do or bring to the table?
And finally, how you gonna give props to a guy who challenges a mofo 2 weight classses below him, agrees to a catchweight THEN NOT MAKE WEIGHT VS A SMALLER MAN? How’s that not some scheming ass shit.
Get the fuck outta. Like I’ve said, Floyd may very well be the greatest of all time – I sure as fuck was mesmerized by his skill last night – but he sure ain’t WANTING to prove that.
IMO, A Mayweather/Sugar Shane Mosley fight would be like a revival of a Sugar Ray Leonard/Mayweathers fight while a Mayweather/Pac would be like foreman/ali. I’m not considering results but just the whole feel of the match in your lords view.
Yes, i want a Pacquiao/PBF match more than anything.
by that logic we should never give any favorite credit for winning. if/when the day comes that mayweather fights pacquiao and he’s like a 2 to 1 or greater favorite, and wins just like the experts predict people are gonna be singing that same ol’ tired line. “oh he was supposed to win, he’s bigger/stronger/faster/etc…” there comes a point where you need to just watch the fight and give dude his props or brood quietly in the corner.
only mayweather sr. fought leonard…you’ve seen that fight?
You know what, I agree with that. Floyd won’t get credit for beating Pac because Pac is the smaller man moving up in weight to challenge him. This, imo, is why Floyd is so hesitant to take that fight. Not because he’s scared or ducking Pac, it’s just that, he knows at the end of the day, beating Pac will just give Floyd haters more ammo. It’s almost a lose/lose situation for Floyd and if Pac wins, he goes down as an all time great; If Pac loses, so what, Floyd beat a smaller man.
I for one don’t care for a PBF/Pacman fight for that reason.
As for your logic, no, it doesn’t work because in this scenario, it’s a smaller man moving up TWO weight classes to fight a fighter almost universally believed to be better than him. And to rub salt in the wound, FLOYD DOESN’T EVEN FUCKING MAKE WEIGHT. It’s an embarrassment, I’m sorry. He’d rather pay off 600k then have even the SLIGHTEST chance of losing this fight.
I’ll say it here, Mayweather goes down as an all top P4P top 10 when he beats Mosley/Cotto/Margarito/Paul Williams. ANY of those will do. He’s got the skill, just not the resume.
Because of the way he beat Marquez. So what if people predicted him winning. Seeing as he’s arguably the worlds best boxer he’s not going to walk in the ring as the underdog.
He gets credit to me because he outboxed Marquez. People like to bitch about the size advantage he has, they forget that Marquez is ranked no. 2 in the world and he could barely land against Floyd weight has nothing to do with that.
People forget that Marquez was the one who called Mayweather out his words went a little something like this. ‘‘If I can’t fight Pacquiao again I’d like to fight the best boxer in the world’’ something along those lines. If Mayweather had turned down a fight with Marquez and beat somebody like Mosley I bet people would bitch about him picking an old slow man passed his prime.
As I’ve said many times people won’t be happy until he loses in the ring.
Lol, DLH didn’t figure out a thing. Generally if you figure someone out in a fight you don’t lose the later rounds. It was Mayweather who figured DLH out, at first DLH was excersing the jab really well he claimed he couldn’t work the jab because he got tired, I call bullshit on that Mayweather figured his jab out and gave him an over hand right.
The judge who ruled in DLH favour was clearly a biased idiot.
Corrales ( undefeated at the time)
Hatton
DLH
Hernandez
Gatti ( People questioned him for not fighting him.
Baldomir ( same as Gatti, ''why don’t you fight a WW like Baldomir)
Ndou
Castillo
Zab Judah
Manfreddy.
Floyd’s resume is fine, people have a tendency to underrate his victims.
Every opponent that Floyd beats was garbage and overrated after he beat them.
“Maaaaaaan you beat Gatti, but you ain’t fucking wit dat nigga Zab Judah tho. Oh you beat Judah, but what about Baldomir? Baldomir beat Judah’s ass”
As if Floyd could have fought Oscar at his prime, when Oscar spent years at Light Middle and Midleweight. DLH made a living at light Middle, and Middleweight. Took over a year and a half off from boxing, then fought that idiot Mayorga, and finally Mayweather.
i quickly googled it, but i couldn’t find the clip. either way, marquez mentioned mayweather by name after the diaz fight and the same peoplesaying he’s picking on little guys now would be saying he’s scared of marquez if the fight didn’t go down.
i’m only interested in seeping PBF v. cotto/pacquiao. as someone else said, before he exposed margarito as a cheater he was pretty much considered on his way out.
i’d like to see PBF (or anybody) fight williams, but he’s a fucking freakshow. if i’m PBF or pacquiao i’m not coming anywhere near that guy lol. mosley needs to fight him since he spends time at 154 anyway, williams was calling him out before the pavlik fight materialized anyway.
i only brought it up bcuz cisco did. i don’t really see how that fight has any similarities to a potential pacquiao fight.
You PBF fans are illogical. We all know Marquez called out PBF, but we all knew that others with in his weight class would choose him to. Pacquiao was going to call him out after Hatton, so would Mosley. Instead he chooses JMM, a boxer who is 2 weight classes below him.
What makes you guys think that PBF will receive any negative comments such as “you ducked a great boxer 2 weight classes lower” on passing JMM for Pac? The man who is said to be the current P4P king or a Boxer who holds the title in his weight class?
But that’s alright, JMM is an awesome fighter so PBF choosing a strong boxer who is 2 weights lower isn’t that bad because we all know that there is a weight limit so it would be even since now both men are at the same weight class for the match. But was the weight rule followed? Only by Marquez.
so PBF picks a guy 2 weight classes lower and breaks the weight agreement, what’s there to respect here?
Another thing that’s stupid is that you PBF fans go with the same 8 year old counter reply “oh, you’re just hating” then attach other random examples just to make it look like it is hating. Why in the hell would we be hating on him? Is it just because of his streak or that he is the “best”? I’m not saying that JMM would have beaten PBF if PBF stuck with the weight rules, but i am sure the Performance would have been different.
I see your point, dude. PBF has great names on his resume, but they were all either way past their primes, plain bums, or smaller guys. I think that the exception could be Hatton & Castillo, where PBF was just the better man playing in a better league. His skill is ridiculous.
It’s easy to hate on Floyd because he’s such a douche, but the man has undeniable talent. I just want to see him up against someone that isn’t at a severe disadvantage. I don’t think that Cotto could keep up. I think that Pac would be too small to be effective. It’s up to Sugar Shane.
I disagree with the “past their prime” and almost the rest because none of the men where past their prime, and JMM was the only mismatch here. I don’t downgrade PBF’s resume one bit, that is an excellent list. However the performance’s against some of them was not “i’m the best” material and this recent match was too much of a mismatch to even be proud of. Pacquiao still has a better resume regardless of their being defeats in them; because his performance has been greater - impressively - not just because of the fast punches but because the list contains the best with in Mexico - nearly all of them weighing more… then Hatton.
The next fight has to be Pac/PBF. A SSM/PBF would be a great match but we can’t wait anymore, sorry Shane and his fans. Pac/PBF has to happen next (hopefully if Pac gets passed Cotto). You can’t have a professional interview with PBF with out Pac’s name being harassed at him and Pac has been praised as the best during PBF’s absence.
You’re saying that ODLH was still in his prime when he fought Mayweather? Carlos Baldomir? Was that even a fight? Gatti? I mean, the dude was one of the most exciting fighters of all time because of his aggressive style, but everyone knew that he was half the speed of PBF.
His resume has some great names on it, sure. But the timing and stipulations for more than half of them are sketchy at best.
And before somebody calls me a blind hater, know that I respect PBF’s dominance. I just want to see it against some better competition that IS and HAS BEEN out there. I WANT Floyd to get the respect that he probably deserves. What I DONT WANT is for Floyd to end his career claiming to be the best when he really hasn’t fought the best. He can’t pull a Joe Calzaghe and end his career with a shit-ton of has-beens and nobodies on his resume and still say he fought the best. Not to take anything away from Joe - he had some impressive bouts, but I’m looking at his career as a whole.
And JMM wasn’t the “best” for Floyd. p4p means “pound for pound”, something that had zero relevancy last Saturday.
Size wasn’t a factor. Age and SPEED were. Floyd knew this. Everyone who knows boxing knew this. The faster counter puncher beats the slower, older counter punch. Like I said, Floyd ain’t stupid. This could not have been an easier fight for him to take as a come back.
It’s a good win that doesn’t change shit.
Why are you still making excuses for a bitch move? When a guy moves up two weight classes to fight you, the honorable thing to do at the VERY least is TO MAKE WEIGHT. Floyd would rather pay 600 fucking thousand dollars than to lose TWO pounds. Why can’t you see this?
Yeah, that’s a nice and cute resume, and people normally would not give a shit had Floyd not call himself the P4P greatest. Had he not lost his fucking mind and proclaimed himself to be greater than Ray Robinson.
How in the fuck are you going to mention yourself in the same breath as Duran, Leonard, Haggler, Hearns, RAY ROBINSON, with such a garbage resume? Floyd fans, be real with yourself. BE REAL HOMIES. I don’t need to drop names or make a giant list. JUST BE REAL.
Floyd being a better fighter that Marquez was the deciding factor in that fight. Marquez fought Pacquiao just last year, was he too old then? He was ranked no. 2 in the world. People need to cut the bullshit excuses.
Marquez lost because Floyd outboxed him. His age had nothing to do with it. Speed had something to do with it but bitching at a fighter for winning because of his speed is as stupid as bitching about someone winning because he punches hard.
He did make weight. You said Marquez moved up two weight classes? That makes it a welterweight fight ( 147lbs) Floyd weighed in at 147lbs.
Lol hater talk. Boxing is a sport that requires focus and confidence if he wants to say he is the best boxer to ever walk the earth that is his right, you have a right to disagree with him. People really need to shut the fuck up in this area, one for calling his resume garbage.
That in itself is disrespectful to the majority of pro boxers in the world who sweat day in day and accomplish half the amount Floyd accomplished. Saying what you said makes you out to be a blind little hater that’s vex that he hasn’t been licked yet.
We will see who he fights next. You haters are the individuals that are illogical it’s like you don’t realise the meaning of ‘‘come back fight’’. You’re speaking as though he had this fight and now he decides to call it a day. At least wait to see who he fights next, then you can moan about how he ducked X after he beats said person.
for some reason, i really think all this shane/floyd hype was created in order to bring in the next big fight. floyd/shane is already getting alot of attention if u look at it. from a serious perspective think about it. floyd has been getting acquainted with people from the wwe as u can see (triple h by his side at the fights, and numerous appearances on these wrestling shows). can’t u guys see a storyline being drawn up here? imagine the shane/floyd 24/7. jeez. i think it’s going down and i think it’s all being purposely set up to draw in heavy revenue. thoughts gentlemen?