Boxing Thread

http://www.ringtv.com/blog/855/showtime_super_middleweight_tournament_is_a_winner/

Super Middleweight tournament announced. I thought Abraham was going to fight Pavlik in the middleweight division this year :/.

LOL, I agree, American Heavyweights are nothing but doughboys with even softer chins, as Charles Barkley would say: “Muhammad Ali must be rolling around in his grave” (even though he is still alive :rofl:).

I have to say, I’m wholly against someone being scheduled for a fight in advance.

http://www.ringtv.com/blog/858/v_klitschko_haye_reach_deal/

V.Klitschko and Haye going to fight on Sept 12.

whoa! one of my favorite boxers to watch… RIP :sad:
http://www.boxingrepublic.com/2009/07/11/arturo-gatti-found-dead/

r.i.p. Arturo Gatti. Terrible that he didn’t get to live life after boxing. I remember when I was re-introduced to the sport of boxing, the first couple of fights I watched was the Gatti-Ward trilogy.

Showtime’s super middleweight tournament is a good move, I hope all the planned fights actually happens.

IBF Cruiserweight champion Tomasz Adamek won his fight and Steve Cunningham won his. Looking forward to their re-match. Look out for that one, it is going to be a hell of a fight.

Fighters from Ghana are tough, very tough. Fighters from Mexico and Latin American countries have more of the spotlight on having “tough fighters”, but the African country of Ghana has quietly made their own reputation of having tough, solid fighters. I grew up watching the professor, Azuma Nelson. And I’ve been a fan of Jousha Clottey and I enjoy watching Ike Quartey fights. I remember watching Joseph “King Kong” Agbeko fight live on Sept. 2007. He was brought in to be a opponent and he beat the shit outta the champion at that time. I’m just talking with no proof, but I’m guessing Ghana is probably the number one country in Africa that produces world champion fighters.

Joseph Agbeko beat the shit talker Vic Darchinyan. The fan boy in me was happy to see Vic get shut up again. But, it was a very sloppy fight from both fighters, as expected seeing both in action before. Lots of fouls, mainly from Vic including the knockdown that wasn’t.

But to praise Vic, he is a man’s man. He backs up his shit talk and doesn’t care about the “computer points” and winning rounds to go the distance, he wants to put the hurt in his opponents and if boxing has more Vic’s, this sport would be in the mainstream again.

Vic Darchinyan is still the undisputed Super Flyweight champion ( WBC, WBA, IBF) and all roads leads to Nonito Donaire whom is fighting for the interim WBA title in August. Vic is stuck between a rock and a hard place. He is maybe too small to fight at Bantamweight, but if he goes down to super fly, Nonito is awaiting with open arms.

Bantamweight is a solid, vidision with good fighters:

Hozumi Hasegawa (WBC)

Joseph Agbeko (IBF)

Fernando Montiel (WBO)

Vic Darchinyan ( if he stays)

Nonito Donaire ( he has trouble making weight and may jump to 118 for the big fights)

Christian Mijares ( if he can shake off losing two in a row, one of my favorite fighters)

sorry for the double post but this is worth its own post.

video of Showtime’s super middleweight tournament:

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  • Mikkel Kessler

  • Carl Froch

  • Arthur Abraham

  • Jermain Taylor

  • Andre Ward

  • Andre Dirrell ( not shown in video)

awesome video, great fighters. this past weekend was sad one with the death of Gatti, but this video shows the future of boxing and it is looking good.

RIP Arturo Gatti. Wasn’t the greatest boxer by any stretch, but he had more heart than anyone in the sport. That’s why he was always exciting to watch, especially in Atlantic City.

I look forward to seeing more of everyone you mentioned with the exception of Carl Froch. I’m still hella butthurt over his win over Taylor. Fucking Taylor… Phenomenal boxer with a phenomenal jab. I have to support him since we both grew up in the same town. But fuck… His lack of conditioning and stamina are making me lose hope for him. Those two factors are the only reason he isn’t a middleweight/super-middleweight GOD.

It would be good to see Mikkel Kessler in the ring again against these fighters. Arthur Abraham has had trouble making weight and it seems a fight with Kelly Pavilk won’t happen anything soon, but this is a good more for A.A. The WBA and WBC belt holders are represented here except for IBF belt holder, Lucian Bute, but not too many fans are hurt by this. I was also hurt by the loss by Jermain Taylor, he had the fight won. But, Carl Froch against Kessler would be dynamite.

I’m looking forward to seeing what the three American fighters can do in this round robin turney. Besides Roy Jones Jr. and James Toney, this division has been traditionally dominated by Europeans ( Joe Calzaghe, recently).

what exactly do trainers mean when they say above average KO power is inborn?

do they mean the amount of fast twitch fibers you’re given (i.e. speed) ? do theymean you being born a big person and cutting weight to a smaller weight class, and keeping the muscle power? do they mean the size of the hands you naturally have (your hitting surface area) ?

you would think by bulking up or getting your punches faster you’d be able to achieve that “incredible KO” power. and if some guys dont train for it and “naturally” get it without being big, what about their body has it so they have more punching power? would love to get to know the science behind it

This is just an assumption on my part, but I would assume part of it being inborn is perhaps your bones or something genetically inclined. Like if you had brittle hands or something you probably can’t do incredible KO punches or at least, not too much.

^ yeah i would hope it means bones, size of your hands, etc. not something you have a chance to change.

lol…

^^^ funny

118 - Bantamweights

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Hozumi Hasegawa (WBC) - I hear a lot about this southpaw from the hardcore fans and he recently fought this week. His scored his second 1st round KO in a row. They say he is the best in the division and right now this division is loaded with talent. It is too bad that Japanese fighters are not known for fighting on the world stage and choose to stay in their “bird’s nest”. Countries like Germany and Japan are among the worst in hometown decisions so any fighters going their must win by KO. Hasegawa seems decent and would match up well with the other big names:

Joseph Agbeko (IBF)

Fernando Montiel (WBO)

Christian Mijares ( is no stranger to going to Japan and winning there)

Vic Darchinyan ( still a big name)

Nonito Donaire (I bet he is willing to jump two weight classes to big fights here)

Gerry Penalosa ( if he chooses to fight on and doesn’t mind a decent payday going to Japan, Juan Manuel Lopez couldn’t knock Penalosa out, dood has a iron chin)

Recent Mayweather interview - http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=4330549

Nonito Donaire is the shit, he needs to jump a few weights classes if wants to start making real money.

i alwasy took it to mean the way you “naturally” throw a punch since some styles of punchng are clearly more inclined to score spectacular knockouts than others

God damn Mayweather is like a politician nigga doesn’t answer the question just wonder off on his own. :xeye:

the way you punch has big impact on the way you punch. but by the professional level youve gone through the video camera yourself process and the coordination. i think the bones thing might make the difference, because we’ve all seen short or tiny looking people, but they have huge bones and when they tell you how much they weigh you think they lied to add 50lbs. i always keep thinking of adding muscle to help power, but your bones are pretty heavy and solid and that would be a reason why some people ‘just have it.’

Gatti was one of the most entertaining boxers ever, but I wouldn’t try to imitate his style.

Yea, well didn’t have that convenient rib injury when ticket sells were terrible because of conflicts with other fight events.