That isn’t an excuse anymore since Pacquiao has proven he can hang in higher weight classes with his last two matches. If Pacquiao loses, then he loses, period.
The only one I can think of is that Pacquiao hasn’t fought a black person (at least from what I have seen; he may have fought a black fighter that wasn’t as publicized as the spanish fighters). I think that would be an “lol” moment if someone says, “Well, Mayweather is black…sooo…”
Both Pacquiao and Mayweather have the credentials of being impressive fighters, so who wouldn’t want to see this happen?
Floyd Mayweather promoting the fight in the UK, also talks about Pacquiao and Ricky Hatton’s future:
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Good Friday Night Fights lineup: Debut of two time Olympic gold winner (Cuba), Guillermo Rigondiaux. He is talked about being more talented then Yorkuris Gamboa. Erislandy Lara in acation, once again. Richard Gutierrez vs. Antwone Smith should be a solid match up. And Freddie Roach is the guest in the studio.
it’s terrible we don’t see the Cuban boxers turning pro sooner because of their country.
Bacardi’s reasoning why Cotto will win… " bOrIIIIIIIIIIIIIcUaaaaaaaaaaaaah!!!" lol
Lol great interviews. Funny Brian Kenny calls him out for not facing Baldomir and look what happened when Mayweather embarassed him :rolleyes:. Excuses rolled in.
As much as I like Mosley, I think Mayweather is a horrible match up for him, it could be close to how Vernon Forrest beat Shane but much worse. Shane still has speed, not quite as much as when he was on top of the world against DLH, and Margarito was made to order for him, but PBF has such slick defense it will be hard for Mosley to get through. Hatton-Mayweather showed me that PBF doesn’t like being hit, and Shane can punch pretty hard.
being an mma fan, im not that interested in boxing, but i think i would be if they switched to mma gloves or something similar. would this be a good idea? y/n
obviously there really isnt any reason for them to do this, seeing as they can make money fine as things are now, but just as a person opinion, i like how mma fights can end at any moment. not that there cant be quick ko’s in boxing.
its just imo, boxing is more like cvs2 and mma is more like mvc2.
did you guys see espn boxing last night? they had Mayweather interviewed on tape with Freddie Roach live to rebuff everything without Mayweather being able to respond. I also like BUT MOSLEY BEAT MARGARITO! from the announcer I almost pissed my pants.
if pacquiao agreed to move up and fight somebody like cory spinks at 154, and spinks managed to win that fight it would make me think better of him than i do and it would lower my opinion of pac bcuz he chose to take that fight and lost.
PBF retired as #1 P4P guy so he was already “great” and JMM is the one that called him out and wanted to move up in weight class. what exactly is the point of your question?
This is one of the silliest things I’ve ever read. How much boxing have you watched? Without boxing there would be no MMA, and boxing has a much larger cultural history. I’ve been an of MMA since the original UFC and Pancrase days, I’ve been a boxing fan over 20 years. May I suggest you watch historic videos of Jack Dempsey vs. Jess Willard, classics such as Marciano-Walcott, Lewis-Schmeling I and II (two of the most socially important fights in boxing history) and modern classics like Leonard-Hearns I, and II, the Ali-Frazier trilogy, Duran vs. Leonard I and II (the third fight featured men well past their prime) Gatti Ward I, II and III, Castillo Corrales I, Carbajal- Gonzalez I, Bowe-Holyfield trilogy, Barrera Morales trilogy, and much more. New MMA fans post TUF season 1 have issues with boxing, and very old school boxing fans don’t like MMA, but many such as myself and I’m sure many others here.
a lot of people called him out. well, point is, if he’s that great he might as well fight the current number 1 at his weight class which would give him much much much more credit and make his status even more greater. and the current number 1 at his weight class also called him out. i’m pretty sure with his skills it’s a pretty easy fight. that i don’t get.
i’m still not understanding what you don’t get. JMM is probably the biggest money fight (outside of a pacquiao) fight that could be made, so what sense would it make fighting mosley or even cotto when that fight could be had? in the same way it didn’t really make sense for him to fight margarito when he could get more money for fighting baldomir.
it’s odd that you seem to have a problem with him fighting JMM, yet you dont’ have a problem with the fact that the only reason this fight exists is bcuz pacquiao point blank refused to fight JMM again.
JMM is not the biggest money fight for Mayweather. JMM attracts Mexican/hardcore boxing fans, but Shane Mosley would attract the hardcore “and” casual fans ( along with Mayweather) and that is a much larger audience. Shane is a much more proven PPV fighter then Marquez by a mile.
No one pointed a gun in Marquez’es head and made him go up two divisions to fight Mayweather. Mayweather is on the “A” side and Marquez is playing second fiddle. Marquez has the chance to a lifetime to beat Mayweather and play spoiler to a Mayweather vs. Pacquiao fight and put pressure on Pac for a third fight.
This is the thing that hardcore boxing fans are bitching about. Floyd comes back, cool. We understand if he chooses a tune up fight, expecting to be a welterweight or a junior welter coming up, but then he chooses the lightweight champion ( great opportunity for Marquez) to go up two divisions, which is an obvious “duck” at the welterweights.
And he comes back saying he is the best, which irks the hardcore fans, because in their eyes, Floyd hid in the cave for 1 1/2 years while the welterweights where beating each other up and then he comes out of the cave when the smoke has cleared and shouting at the mouth," I’m the best, I never lost!" Mayweather is overprotecting his record and that record is his main claim to fame. Without that perfect record, he thinks he is not much of a draw, but hardcore fans don’t care about perfect records much, it’s who a fighter fights. Oscar de la Hoya lost all his biggest fights, but at least he fought them. Great fighters dared to be great and most hardcore boxing fans are not seeing that with Floyd at this time.
I’ve been a Mayweather fan since I started watching boxing again, but it gets harder and harder to defend him.
You know what I was thinking that Mayweather might be thinking. < Did that make sense?
Any who back to what I was saying since Pacman been going nuts lately maybe just maybe Mayweather trying to win over the Mexican fan to set up his fight vs Pacman so he get the Mexican audience + everyone else in that fight. Kind of random, but that what I would of done. You know the Mexican fans probably root for Mayweather over the Mexicutioner.
I doubt Mayweather think that far in advance, but hey that what I WOULD of personally did myself.
no i dont think thats anywhere close to an accurate assumption.
without fighting there’d be no boxing.
mma is fighting, and its the closest thing there is today to a no rules fight.
boxing didnt start muay thai, sumo, judo, or jujitsu. or a million other fighting arts.
they all existed prior.
and imo, i’m not going to look at all those “great historicalfights” because i’m a casual fight fan, and after watching what boxing has offered, i never became interested in the product.
and imo, the idea that having giant pillow gloves is more safe is an old relic of another century, as some have argued that the gloves further increase damage in a fight, and just imo make a fight more unecessarily slower paced. as mma gloves give almost any fighter a one shot ko chance.
it was only after the advent of mma that the idea of watching a fight was exciting to me.
anyways was just expressing a personal opinion of not being sold on boxings product, and you’ve established yourself as a hardcore boxer.
I see what you are saying regarding the mexican-american audience. but, I don’t think mayweather needs to set himself up to get the mexican audience on his side. Mayweather vs. Pacquiao would be a great event that no fight fan wouldn’t miss.
over the weekend. Rafael Marquez came back to win a tune up bout.
Zab Judah vs. Mathew Hatton
This is a good fight for Mathew to get out of his brother’s shadow. Since Ricky seems to be done as a top fighter, Mathew can’t live off Ricky’s under cards forever and has a chance to go on his own path. Zab Judah isn’t the fighter he once was, but that is still a hell of a lot more then any lesser fighter’s improvement. Could be a great fight. Although boxing fans kid about Mathew being out of Zab’s league, but Zab can be broken down mentally very easily. There were talks of a Juan Diaz vs. Joan Guzman fight for the Mayweather-Marquez undercards, the fight wasn’t followed through. Would had been an awesome fight too.
Alfredo Angulo vs. Kermit Cintron
the co-feature to Andre Berto vs. Juan Urango. This is billed as the breakout fight for Alfredo Angulo. Angulo is the next Margarito, the consummate Mexican warrior. Don’t miss this fight as well as the main event. Good stuff.
Boxing in 2009 is the best boxing fans have seen in a long time, less PPV’s, more quality match-ups. The return of Mayweather and the most exciting fighter in Pacquiao, both are on a collision course. A great time to be a boxing fan.
what does the “next margarito” even mean anymore? dude is on mcgwire/sosa status imo, there should be asterisks next to all of his victories.
i’d personally rather see PBF/cotto or PBF/JMM over PBF/mosley, and i consider myself a fan of mosley. but i can’t ignore the fact that prior to taking out margarito dude looked borderline finished.
are you kidding? pbf vs jmm > pbf vs mosley, now that’s some blind shit. could you pls count jmm ppv numbers without pac in it?
no, it doesn’t SEEM, i do have a problem him coming back and fighting jmm. if pbf didn’t come back, pac only has 2 most likely options next to fight and that is cotto and jmm which would likely result and force into a 3rd fight of pac vs jmm because cotto is now refusing to fight below 145 iirc.
but what’s done is done. this fight has been made and i really don’t care who wins this fight because i like both of em to face pac. i might be wrong, but i don’t see mayweather ktfo jmm because jmm is one tough hombre, pac hit him with a lot of clean shots in their 2 fights which would ktfo of any other guy, but he withstood it and gave pac hell even. and i also don’t see jmm ktfo mayweather like what he did with juan diaz and casamayor because he is mayweather, you know my point. i see this as a close decision either way.
As a tune up fight didn’t De La Hoya fight Fobres who was blown up. Cotto fought Jennings who was literally a scrub fighting Marquez would be far harder than fighting a bum like Jennings.
I think people are making too much of a deal about Marquez moving up in weight anyway, Floyd is a naturally small Welter.
Fighting Mosley, Cotto, or Pacquiao would be stupid at this point. Marquez is big money practise fight.