Bloodborne thread

hanzohattori1 · April 6, 2015, 8:46pm

Can’t wait for the new addition to arrive…

Dj_Hyper_Kid · April 6, 2015, 8:55pm

Okay so here is my character (Ronin) and his stats. Basically on stats I’ve been focusing on Vitality and Endurance. I’m still in the cathedral quarter, but I am trying to get strong enough to beat those two npcs (shotgun guy and lightning guy). Any tips on where I should start focusing on leveling?

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11083589_10155426000510504_5600772313466400998_n.jpg?oh=e76ea41e39c2dec223c3f3f11062b633&oe=55A9B4A5&gda=1441106906_77bfdb6028f719b60478c9988a0aefe5

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MARTIAN · April 6, 2015, 8:58pm

What?

Are you talking about the tentacle thing? The Augur of Erebieas or whatever? If so, you find that in the real version of the Hunter’s Dream. It takes 18 Arcane to use and it’s actually pretty damn strong for only using 1 bullet per use.

There’s also this other Arcane item that I have yet to use but it sounds like what you’re describing. Description says it shoots lighting out on the ground and all around you in different directions, but I can’t try it yet because my Arcane isn’t at 25.

MARTIAN · April 6, 2015, 9:08pm

It really depends on what you’re gonna want to do, what weapons you wanna use, your playstyle, ect. You seem to already have a shit ton of points into VIT and END so I’d probably top VIT off at 30 and maybe get END to 25. After that you can probably focus on your other stats for a long while. I’m at level 70 and my VIT is only at 20, for instance.

You’ll have to tell us more though. What kinds of weapons do you like using, specifically? Do you spend a lot of time dodging and dashing or going for the power hits? Do you plan on using a lot of Arcane items or Guns? Give us deets, brah.

Gasaraki · April 6, 2015, 10:10pm

The one that has a bunch of homing light arrows? Yes but it requires 40 Arcane to use. It’s called “A Call Beyond”. It’s a bit hard to use I’ve heard as it doesn’t really home in perfectly or anything so you have to use it from the right ranges but it can do a ton of damage if spaced right against bosses. I think it requires 8 bullets to cast.

MARTIAN · April 6, 2015, 10:47pm

So I’m learning some very interesting things on the lore. Spoilers for those who don’t want to read.

[details=Spoiler]Apparently, the source of all these horrors might actually be aliens.

**"Yharnam is a city that was founded on the tombs of elder gods. It is ruled by the Healing Church, which practices the ministration of blood, healing the ill and mending the wounded with the transfusion of blessed blood. Blood is everything in Yharnam. The people there even drink it recreationally, which has given them an unsavory reputation with the rest of the civilized world. Yet people still come there seeking cures for their ailments.

The academy at Byrgenwerth was meant to study the tombs of the elder gods, called the Great Ones. The Healing Church found a medium there, who they used to establish contact with the Great Ones. They otherwise remain hidden to the eyes of men. It would seem that Rom, the Vacuous Spider, was the Great One that maintained this veil. Once he is destroyed, in his pocket dimension beneath the lake, the veil is lifted and the Great Ones can now be seen (such as the Lesser Amygdala clinging to the church walls).

The Healing Church worshipped the Great Ones, and so did occultists such as the witches of Hemwick and the woman in the clinic, but the Great Ones were merely using them to propagate their species, which requires a human female as a surrogate mother. And this is just my theory, but I wonder if the Moon Presence – the supreme Great One – brought about the Plague of Beasts so that men would organize the Hunt, which would help the Great Ones discover a hunter strong enough to serve as a vessel for the spawn of the Moon Presence. An NPC in the game (I can’t remember who) asks you to question what purpose the hunt really serves.

Also, the Plague of Beasts — something the ministration of blood could not counter – was probably the point at which the Healing Church realized the folly of its ways and sealed off Byrgenwerth, as well as the rest of the Forbidden Woods. " **

The Great Ones (the big giant things covering Yharnam after killing Rom, or a.k.a Amygdala) are often referred to as “cosmic beings”. There’s even the boss called the Daughter of The Cosmos, which I’m sure is also related. A lot of stuff regarding the whole “dream and nightmare” aspect is still pretty ambiguous though. It’s hard to tell whether or not the city is trapped in a dream of some sort, or if the Hunter’s Dream is actually real, ect ect. [/details]

Gasaraki · April 6, 2015, 10:54pm

The Martian:

So I’m learning some very interesting things on the lore. Spoilers for those who don’t want to read.

[details=Spoiler]
Apparently, the source of all these horrors might actually be aliens.

**"Yharnam is a city that was founded on the tombs of elder gods. It is ruled by the Healing Church, which practices the ministration of blood, healing the ill and mending the wounded with the transfusion of blessed blood. Blood is everything in Yharnam. The people there even drink it recreationally, which has given them an unsavory reputation with the rest of the civilized world. Yet people still come there seeking cures for their ailments.

The academy at Byrgenwerth was meant to study the tombs of the elder gods, called the Great Ones. The Healing Church found a medium there, who they used to establish contact with the Great Ones. They otherwise remain hidden to the eyes of men. It would seem that Rom, the Vacuous Spider, was the Great One that maintained this veil. Once he is destroyed, in his pocket dimension beneath the lake, the veil is lifted and the Great Ones can now be seen (such as the Lesser Amygdala clinging to the church walls).

The Healing Church worshipped the Great Ones, and so did occultists such as the witches of Hemwick and the woman in the clinic, but the Great Ones were merely using them to propagate their species, which requires a human female as a surrogate mother. And this is just my theory, but I wonder if the Moon Presence – the supreme Great One – brought about the Plague of Beasts so that men would organize the Hunt, which would help the Great Ones discover a hunter strong enough to serve as a vessel for the spawn of the Moon Presence. An NPC in the game (I can’t remember who) asks you to question what purpose the hunt really serves.

Also, the Plague of Beasts — something the ministration of blood could not counter – was probably the point at which the Healing Church realized the folly of its ways and sealed off Byrgenwerth, as well as the rest of the Forbidden Woods. " **

The Great Ones (the big giant things covering Yharnam after killing Rom, or a.k.a Amygdala) are often referred to as “cosmic beings”. There’s even the boss called the Daughter of The Cosmos, which I’m sure is also related. A lot of stuff regarding the whole “dream and nightmare” aspect is still pretty ambiguous though. It’s hard to tell whether or not the city is trapped in a dream of some sort, or if the Hunter’s Dream is actually real, ect ect.[/details]

Just so you know we do have spoiler tags: [ spoiler ] [ /spoiler ] just remove spaces in brackets

Anyway:

Spoiler

Calling them “aliens” misses the real meat of what they are. Just like Lovecraft mythos stuff, they’re extra-dimensional beings. From what I’ve read in items and stuff the dream/nightmare is how they interact with humans, being the only way they can as they are, again, extra dimensional. Like you could still call them aliens, for sure, but they’re not just things from another planet, they’re from a straight up different dimension

Phantom_Angel · April 6, 2015, 11:13pm

Yup. Go find it, do what’s in the spoiler, and get a damn good Rune.

toddler316 · April 6, 2015, 11:31pm

I just got to the Spider boss Rom, the hunter right before the boss was a pain in the ass. Pushed my shit in like 15 times.
I was not expecting the boss to drop like 15 little spiders. I noped out of the game and logged was in no mood for that shit last night.

MARTIAN · April 6, 2015, 11:33pm

It’s almost as if I said…

Lol.

[details=Spoiler]But yes, I agree. I’m using the term “alien” very loosely as I do feel it undermines what these creatures truly are. If they require a female surrogate to procreate then that might explain why we only see a handful of them. But that also doesn’t mean these creatures don’t exist in larger numbers than what we’re shown in the game…

My question is: Why Queen Yharnam? Why is her blood the source, and why does she have this blood in the first place? Were the Great Ones really responsible for the spread of the plague? [/details]

So many things unanswered. Or more likely, we’re not asking the right questions.

Gasaraki · April 6, 2015, 11:56pm

The Martian:

Gasaraki:

Just so you know we do have spoiler tags: [ spoiler ] [ /spoiler ] just remove spaces in brackets

It’s almost as if I said…

The Martian:

So I’m learning some very interesting things on the lore. Spoilers for those who don’t want to read.

Lol.

[details=Spoiler]But yes, I agree. I’m using the term “alien” very loosely as I do feel it undermines what these creatures truly are. If they require a female surrogate to procreate then that might explain why we only see a handful of them. But that also doesn’t mean these creatures don’t exist in larger numbers than what we’re shown in the game…

My question is: Why Queen Yharnam? Why is her blood the source, and why does she have this blood in the first place? Were the Great Ones really responsible for the spread of the plague? [/details]

So many things unanswered. Or more likely, we’re not asking the right questions.

No, I did see that, that’s why I reminded you to use the tags because that’s why they’re there dude. You should probably still go add them in.

Anyway:

Spoiler

yeah the Yharnam thing I don’t even know. Apparently if you kill her she drops a key item that no one knows any use for. For the disease, the idea was the Healing Church wanted to commune with the great ones by using either Yharnam(if she’s related to them) or probably Ebriatas’s blood. So I think under the guise of healing they administered it to many people but most just became beasts, almost like devolving I think, to a state of instinct. Some sort of went the other way, becoming greedy for knowledge and insight.

Phantom_Angel · April 7, 2015, 12:13am

I suggest watching ENB’s playthrough. You know how he is with lore, and he also worked on the guide.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLQDWoXFQ-YLqnVUES5NZmzh8sQ3VrOnnP

MARTIAN · April 7, 2015, 12:18am

I don’t see the point when I clearly stated the post contains spoilers at the beginning of said post, but if it’s that important to some of you I’ll go ahead and spoiler it.

But maybe…

Spoiler

The Queen has this blood in the first place because the Great Ones used her as a surrogate. Maybe the Church actually captured the Queen to use her for this very purpose, and that’s why she’s locked under the vast catacombs of the church. So in turn, maybe she miscarried and gave birth to The Reborn One. It does kind of look like a REALLY fucked up Amygdala, and it’s about the same size as all the other Great Ones.

Gasaraki · April 7, 2015, 12:39am

[details=Spoiler]No I’m pretty sure she gave birth to the baby the Nurse is protecting, that’s why she’s there. Once you kill the nurse, you can go back down to her and she’ll like, bow to you and then disappear. So I doubt The One Reborn is directly related to her.

Also I still think Ebrietas is the one they were getting the blood from. She’s the one who’s kept in the inner sanctums of the Cathedral, not Yharnam. The latter may be deep in the ruins or whatever, but Ebrietas is the one that’s there and essentially being protected it seems like. Plus all the weird great one babies in that area… Maybe Ebrietas and Yharnam have become related in some way though…[/details]

MARTIAN · April 7, 2015, 4:36am

Anyone want to try and meet up? I’m sitting in front of the Daughter of The Cosmos boss door. Level 77 now.

Gasaraki · April 7, 2015, 4:40am

Don’t have access to that area right now, sorry bro =/

MARTIAN · April 7, 2015, 4:42am

Damn. How close are you to getting the key to the Upper Cathedral Ward? I could help you with that area and the Cosmic Emissary.

Gasaraki · April 7, 2015, 4:44am

Lol my further character just started NG+ recently, my new one is still quite a long ways away. That one still needs to beat Vicar Amelia

MARTIAN · April 7, 2015, 4:45am

That’s a shame. Randoms are terrible in this game, for some reason.

Gasaraki · April 7, 2015, 4:47am

WELCOME TO DARK SOULS.