not every vc can do a bankai
the way that i see it is that ss is sacrificing the captains that are "dispensable"
notice that we are only seeing fight those who already showed their bankais
iirc some of those that have not shown it yet in theory have bankais that are really dangerous
another thing is that it would be interesting to see if the vizards’s bakais cant be sealed like ichigo or if its something special to him for being a human-shinigami-hollow-fullbring-quasi jesus
You forgot his most important power. Plot Armor.
You need to say this to the people who bought about SF x T. trollface
Also why did they make Chad completely useless? Same for Ishida, and pretty much everybody that wasn’t named Ichigo.
remember its a war and they are attacked by surprise, they, in theory, dont have the luxury to come with a plan and or fight without using all their strenght since the enemy is very powerful
add that they thought that quincies were going to “seal” their bankai, not simpy steal it when they released it
Looks like the pimp nazis are gonna get new hoes. Hoes who USED to have bankai, but now they don’t. 
Looks like they gonna need a bigger jobber bus, or will Kenpachi ride in for the save? I swear. If chad and ishida save the day…
-Starhammer-
A jobber can’t rise above his station.
They better try. I don’t think the pimp nazis hand out pink slips, but I bet they will choke a bitch.
-Starhammer-
Pretty good chapter except, like everyone mentioned, the captains being dumb asses. Leaving it up to Renji’s bankai? Really Byakuya?
Man, talk about a bad plan… Renji’s bankai SUCKS…and then he’s still relatively new to the shit anyway…yet B. left it up to him in case something bad happened to his god-level bankai? You cannot be serious with that, man. It is also a bit out of character for Byakuya to admit that he needs that 1 thing to kill his enemy… the guy has a million ways to absolutely destroy people, and he’s confident that he’ll always figure something out and prevail.
I’m still loving it though… I really need this apparently final Bleach story to be animated.
Bankai stolen. Oh how will they get it back?
Ishida doing stuff behind the scene. I sense it.
(Lol. Not having read this shitty manga in forever save for the past two chapters out of boredom, I still find you guys hilarious.)
You guys really expected Kubo to have his characters make more intelligent decisions when this is supposed to be the “final chapter” of the wasted-potential-fest that is Bleach? When he’s been shown multiple times to basically graft his characters to Idiot Balls? Really? Really?
Sigh. You guys…
The only person I’m excusing from this accusation of incredulity is Rodimus because he’s eternally cheerful for some odd reason, like that Bob guy from Enzyte commercials. So Bonerodimus gets a pass.
If anything new actually occurs, then it will be that characters are going to get even dumber and do stuff that makes you facepalm with “wait, what!?” moments where people do something really stupid or out of character like Byakuya this chapter:
“Now it’s just 2-on-1, Renji. Instead of using Senbonsakura to try to slit this guy’s throat or otherwise inflict major if not fatal damage while you flank him since I can cut him, I will immediately use my Bankai despite knowing that I’ll be locked out of it for at least a while and not knowing any surefire way to get it back. When that happens, I will be relying upon your infinitely less flexible Bankai backed by your extremely weaker battle tactics and horrible track-record of accomplishing anything while we search in the midst of battle for a solution that may not exist. Are you ready?”
“Yea–wait, what?!”
“Excellent. Bankai!”
Was Byakuya this dumb when that Tsukiyama or whoever the fuck guy was around?
Seriously, though, of the four captains that just lost Bankai, I could maybe forgive Soi Fon since she hates hers (and her Shikai is far more broken) and maybe Komamura since it’s literally just a huge liability as we saw with Flytousen nearly killing him because of it. But Byakuya, while prideful, is pretty much never this dumb…outside of continuing to have Renji’s useless ass as his Vice Captain; I’m rather sure that’s partly as a favor to Rukia, though, and maybe because literally every other non-seated person we’ve seen is an even worse jobber than him. (Gods, I shudder to think that’s possible.)
As for Hitsugaya, well, he can continue to make ice dildos with which to go fuck himself because no one devoid of ovaries actually cares about him. Here’s hoping he dies.
That’s probably the only reason you guys are “hype” for this arc thus far: People, nevermind that most of them are horrible jobber-fodder we’ve never seen before anyway, are dying by the droves, so it’s sufficiently “action-y”/“explosion-y” for now in that Michael Bay way that ropes in a lot of people for some reason.
Given that Bleach has almost always been about flash over substance post-“Aizen’s a villain!?” reveal, this isn’t surprising either.
Yeah, he’s doing stuff, i.e. getting his ass kicked already or preparing to get his ass kicked when he shows up to “save the day” only to fail. Again.
We don’t need to see that yet again, as much as it would help Kubo waste yet more panels on nothing happening.
The Damned always comes in with that real shit.
But yo… Ishida’s saving the day, b. At least once. Probably where it counts.
Also, don’t forget what I said, niggas. Renji’s got this shit in the bag, wild free.
Ishida won’t save the day. Mayuri will with his usual “Just as planned” tactics. We still have Urahara and Mayuri for that. Or watch Unohana’s Bankai be some plot armor bankai shit.
and it’s really obvious Byakuya got a bit of Renji’s personality rubbed off on him. Byakuya making the first move and it’s Bankai? Yea that’s lookin real close to Renji Jobber status Kubo lol.
on that note, When Soi Fon pulls out her bankai that is dirt shit for close range combat, you know this shit makes no sense.
on another note besides the above one, I’m curious to see how the fuck they would seal Shinji’s gdlk Bankai. It’s like Aizen’s shikai: Shit just works whenever.
another nother note, can’t wait to see how Shunsui about to job niggas.
I understand being surprised, but it seemed like the captains all had that plan from the get go. Or else, it seems a little odd EVERY captain thought of the same thing - use their bankais as bait. Even with this small possibility, it still doesn’t excuse Byakuya from sacrificing his bankai when Renji should have used his.
Hey I got SFxT becuase it had Hugo and Kuma…I just didn’t know Kuma wasn’t REALLY going to be Kuma, I didn’t know the Tekken cast was NOT the Tekken cast, and in general the game gets a bad rep because of the community, not because its a bad game. People bitch so much about gems when outside of the assist gems they REALLY don’t break anything. Anyways…
Everyone else sucking? Blame Goku. How many Z-fighters were worth anything by the Buu saga…them ninjas were Cap A status…crowd control ha!
Maybe, just maybe during the timeskip he’s gotten used enough to his bankai that he cna do some…well ‘bankai tier’ shit with it. Maybe…
Renji did train hard for seven months, so it’s not out of the realm of possibility that he learned some new tricks. Then again, this is Renji…it’s too bad he’s not as good as he is in the DS games.
Whats funny is that his bankai isn’t even on par with most Captain’s shikai. I could prolly go to some random comiccon, buy some $90 sword, and be just as if not more effective than Renji’s bankai. Ninja needs to start carrying around a tree branch, he’ll hit harder that way…
(The more I think about it, the more I’m beginning to think that Bleach would have been a lot better as a once-a-month manga like Fullmetal Alchemist even without improvements to Kubo’s writing. However, that assumes that Kubo would have ended up padding monthly Bleach a lot less than his weekly installments and that he actually was able generate good ideas post-Aizen-reveal.)
Who wants to bet that the Quincy who stole Bankai are able to use them? Meaning that Byakuya is extra dumb for giving up his? At least Soi Fon’s and Komamura’s suck; hell, Komamura actually gave his enemy a weak point if that’s the case. Meanwhile, Senbonsakura Kageyoshi pretty much brutally murders everything it’s come against that hasn’t had plot armor or been Ichigo, but I repeat myself.
I am again reminded of how pretty everyone neglects to use Kido (and Hado) even though there’s at least 100 of those spells, Aizen nearly killed Komamura with a one-third strength high-level one and at least one part of Soul Society specializes in it (supposedly). Sure, it might not help here, given that these Quincy can subjugate spiritual energy and what not according to what someone said earlier in this thread. However, it’s just always bugged me how it’s only been used probably a dozen times (and at least three of those were the same spell) and just seems really clear that Kubo hasn’t thought (ab)out that system at all, like most of the core elements of his story.
Despite being disillusioned about DBZ more than probably anyone on this board who doesn’t outright hate it or anime in general, I’m going to have to call “bullshit” here, at least in the sense that you can’t blame Toriyama for Kubo being inept at writing and pacing. I mean, I’m sure you’re only using it as a figurative comparison rather than a literal one given the “Big Three” (at least when Bleach was part of that, ha!) were all inspired by him, but I might as well address both points since I’m a long-winded bastard like that:
Literally: Yeah, pretty much everyone but Goku was completely useless during that saga, even Mystic Gohan. The only person who wasn’t that useless was Gotenks, who was (far too effective for) such a silly concept. That said, compared to DBZ, Bleach is arguably either better about more people being useful or even worse.
In possibly being better about it, half of the captains are at least legitimate threats without needing plot armor to protect them, even if it’s against mostly against lesser beings. Yamamoto, Byakuya, Kenpachi, Kyoraku and even Soi Fon & Mayuri will fuck you up if you underestimate them, especially Mayuri since he tends not to go by pure power anyway; I’m not counting Hitsugaya here because he’s literally covered in plot armor thicker than Sasuke’s, who at least trains on top of having hax. Komamura sucks and Ukitake’s TB acts up at inconvenient times way too often for them to be legitimate threats. However, we’ve still not seen Unohana fight and she should at least be moderately powerful, though whether she’s actually effective for all the time we’ve had to wait, especially when she’s a woman in Kubo’s manga, is…up in the air. (Read: Unlikely, unfortunately.)
Additionally, at least two of the vice captains are pretty dangerous and not-jobbers due to Kira & Hisagi, though that’s lowered to one apparently with Kira’s possible death. None of the other vice captains are useful, unfortunately, sans maybe Madarame & Yumichika, but they both have their heads up their prideful asses and constantly hold back for different reasons, so they’re never going to live up to their potential; seriously, though, as shitty as Madarame’s Shikai is, I’d take his Bankai over Renji’s even though Baldy’s is a lot more straightforward.
Given that Vice Captains being useful is pretty much akin to Krillin still being useful…yeah. They don’t have to always depend on Ichigo to get everything done…
Figuratively: …Although, that’s also arguably what makes Bleach even worse: Despite not having to rely on Ichigo and his damn mask because Kubo didn’t write himself into a corner plot-wise with Saiyan physiology given that he intended to stop right after Planet Namek finally blew up “five” minutes later, that’s what Kubo constantly does. He goes out of his way to make side characters useless right after supposedly giving them power boosts.
Take Chad for example. Poor, poor Chad. Has he ever even won a fight that wasn’t against some grunts outside of against that Afro dude, who was basically still only an elite grunt and whom he still only barely beat before immediately getting cut down by Nnoitra afterwards? We constantly are told he’s gotten stronger…to no actual avail besides beating up slightly stronger grunts. Hell, he was one of way too many people who jobbed to fucking Yammi off-screen. This is the same Yammi then immediately got cut down by Kenpachi and Byakuya without being able to so much as touch them. Yeah.
Ichigo himself is vulnerable to this. Horrifically vulnerable, actually. I’d argue he’s the most susceptible given his lead role; it’s just a lot more subtle because he gets “wins”, even though more often than not they rely on plot armor or his “Superpowered Evil Side” taking over and getting shit done.
He gets power-ups out the ass and still struggles and loses constantly. Hades, he’s even died multiple times. He even died repeatedly in the same arc due to Ulquiorra being that much better than him till Ichigo Dark-Phoenix-plot-armor’d his ass a “victory” that even he was upset with. (Let’s ignore that Ichigo then immediately, idiotically offered to cut his arm off since he got so damn prideful despite the fact that defeating Ulquoirra wasn’t the end goal. Because, you know, Ichigo could take Aizen with only one arm before the stupid power-ups happened on both their ends.)
Ugh. I’m using the bold function too much. Still, Ichigo getting his ass kicked so often is worse than Goku because while Goku also got quite a few powers up, they a) tended to be between (longer) time-skips and b) actually helped through out the saga as a whole.
(With regards to part a, let’s not even bring up how stupid and ill-set up the prison-train dimension’s time-flow was. At least the Room of Plot and Device/Hyperbolic Chamber was explicit about it from the get-go.)
Sure, he tended to rely on Spirit Bomb almost as much as Ichigo relies on Getsuga Tenshou, but that was after everything else had failed usually and even then it was because Spirit Bomb actually worked; meanwhile, Ichigo whores Getsuga Tenshou out the ass and it tends to do a whole lot of nothing more and more.
TL;DR: Basically, Bleach, despite having the chance to be better than DBZ because it has more side characters who are “useful” just due to sheer numbers, is arguably worse about characters being useless because the protagonist, whom everyone still relies on, is himself mostly utterly useless when not covered in plot armor. That combined with the fact that Kubo wasn’t bound to the Vizard plot like Toriyama tied himself to Saiyan power-ups just makes the squandering of Bleach’s potential even worse. [/over-analysis of bad fiction]
MY comment is more to the tone that the lead character gets boost after boost to stay relevent, but due to ‘phisiology’ so to speak is capped at a level beyond anything we’ve seen. The ONLY reason this is a series right now is because Ichigo got ret-conned/nerfed Aizen was written as a ‘Planet NAmek’, but the level of trolling was so rapid and so strong (Kubo’s glasses were reading 9000), that Ichigo had to scale up. Kubo has pretty much continually beefed up Ichigo to the point of beating a near god in Aizen. If Ichigo never lost his powers, he’d have destroyed all the qunicies in half a panel sans bankai. This ninja turned day to night and beat Aizen in a single attack. The ‘Z-fighters’ of Bleach - his ‘classmates’ and the Captains are all pretty leveled off at this point. Renji has been training for however long with his bankai, yet NONE of us have hope of him doing anything more than Vegita - tanking attacks from Buu due to his plot armor preventing death, but knowing damage wise he’s nothing more than a joke at this point. At this pooint even the broken big tit chick is getting her wig pulled off with the reitsu fishing pole.
The ONLY way for a character to be Ichigo’s level is for them to have somethign we on’t know yet - i.e. the Captais with uneseen bankai. I actually think that Aizen really wil lreturn, simply because so much was made of his shikai and we never even saw it, meaning that despite him being reborn by busting thru the condom like The King’s One night ‘mistake’ - we still havne’t seen the height of his ability. We haven’t even gotten to see the CC go all out yet. So I similar to the ‘god’ who came ot get Goku for help against Buu - its unknowns that ca be somewhat parallel to ‘Goku’, but you can never be better than the Goku as a good guy.