Bison (dictator) Thread

A new Dic player here. Had a question about one of the translations to Yoga Book Hyper for Dic, which can be found here.

The fourth string starts with jab psycho crusher, slide kick (as it ends). I’m wondering just what the hell that means. Is it assuming that either the crusher or the slide knockdown? And in that case how would it be any different from any other knockdown? Or if its assuming that both get blocked then that doesn’t make any sense either, since slide is like the unsafest move in the game. :wonder:

Any help on this would be greatly appreciated!

I’m pretty sure it means that the string can start with either jab psicho crusher or the slide but ONLY if the slide hits in its final couple frames (like at the maximum possible range or meaty timed so that it obtains the main effect). Obviosuly you’re gonna use the jab crusher starter quite more often

As my third character, I’m subscribing to this thread.

Giga just posted this video on youtube.

Video of Tira escaping Zangief corner trap

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I would of thought it was luck, but Giga explains how it is done F*ing sick

goddamn…

Wtf!

Nice to know.

how am i supposed to deal with gief? i always find myself getting ticked to death after a knockdown, reversal lariat beats my crossup attempts, and his body splash has godly priority. But apparently this is a 5-5 matchup according to T.Akiba chart http://www.super-turbo.net/sbc/data/diagrama/diagrama.html

what can i do to even up the odds, as from personal experience i only win 10% of my games against gief

footsy with standing forward, standing roundhouse, keep your distancing right, last hit of scissor kick from far away, never do two hits on scissor kick or youll get SPDed, and occasional low roundhouse to reverse lariats

whenever i do the s.mk and s.hk poking, i eventually get lariated and knocked down (which sets up gief’s tick spd)… i can go from having a massive life lead, to getting knocked down by lariat just once and losing the round because of the repeated tick SPDs.

am i right in saying that reversal lariat beats all crossup attempts? or is it just my bad timing?

Ya your right when he’s spinning hes invinciable too all attacks except to his head or feet so if you cross and dont hit hes head your going to get hit, the best way to cross is after you knock him down do a cross befor he gets to his feet. He stands up the slowest of all the fighters so you have a better chance then. Try using your knee press more aginist his lariate its a 80, 30 chance that you’ll win with it

We’ll your half right you can do your knee press on him as much as you want when he’s blocking and, not get hit just make sure its the weak kick (short Kick) when you do it hold jump back to get away it works 80% of the time and when you jump away make sure that you kick in the air just in case he tries to follow you. You’ll hit him…

If you don’t believe just google DAVID SIRLIN"S EVO 2007 OR 2008 ST matches

Taira did something similar to that before against a Dhalsim at a Mikado Ranking Battle.

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aren’t they the same person? (Taira/Tira)

man, i was watching some bison matches yesterday, and this japanese guy kept using standing jab as an ANTI-AIR against shotos, followed by ambiguous meaty slide, into insta-overhead/crouching medium kick/sex/stomp. It was just to delicious

but yo, I know this shit WOULDNT work against say Gief, or max distanced jumps.

and that corner escape from Gief that was posted was uncanny

no I thought they were different people

delicious indeed, Zangief seems to be much easier match for Bison than against shotos.

ok more on the touch of death.

For those that do Crossup HK/MK > st.lk x 2 > cr.mk > FP Psycho

do you mash on the lk button to get the st.lk x 2, or do you use 2 correctly timed button presses?

I try mashing and I get it maybe 20% lol, maybe I’m not fast enough but I am using my left hand since i use a kb (_o)/

also, do more people use 2 standing lks, or just 1?

You shouldnt mash with M.Bison he really is all about timing, character like Dee Jay you can mash that combo and get away with it.

You can use 2 or 3 standing l.kicks but I think if you use 3 you will have to go straight into scissor kick as you might move out of range.

I was planning to move to stick, but after picking up M.Bison Im having too much fun on keyboard again. :wgrin:

Ok, a real noob question here…
see when people list standard bison combos ending in “scissor”, what strength of scissor am i supposed to be doing?
Or does it depend on whether the combo is being blocked or not?

Cheers!

dude, we have some kind of telepathy going on I’m sure, lol. I’m here randomly looking for some info.

Generally, if you’re comboing don’t use short and if you’ve got a block string going, do use short.

Short SK will combo against almost everyone after ‘st. short, cr. forward xx SK’ but it can whiff on cammy, chun and possibly claw (I think). If you’ve got a guaranteed combo anyway use roundhouse. That little bit of extra space you’ll cover is worth it and there’s no risk.

EDIT: oh yeah I knew I had a question. Is there a list of his match ups anywhere? just checked the wiki and couldn’t see one. Anyone who uses him in tournaments want to post up a very quick run down?

That do?