cMP was good enough and basically it’s the same shit
cMK from 11 to 10 frame doesn’t change anything
EX Bullhead got heavily nerfed
What else? EX Bull Horn is a bit better but it’s just 2 frames more. Basically the move was already good. Now it’s better, but I would trade this for the old -2 on block EX Bullhead
Now Birdie can’t throw ANYTHING without getting punished. Meanwhile Zangief got overpowered NEW MOVES, as if he wasn’t strong enough. This is ridiculous, I think Birdie is gonna be bottom 5
I haven’t been able to lab Birdie because Capcom, in their infinite wisdom, decided to disable training mode in the beta. What I have gathered during my time on the laggy ass beta, in terms of Birdie, is that if you want Birdie to have any kind of offense, you need to use can to do it. Otherwise, just play lame and hit buttons. Yippee.
i disagree with everyone here, having a wake up move in this game is really important (4 factors to be top tier, have a 3 frame normal, ex invencible/armor option, good pressure/frame trap/command grab, have a comeback v.trigger) if you don’t have any options in wake up characters like laura, mika, cammy and balrog can run a train on you.
birdie were completely trash in s1, some match ups (ex: nash, chunli, necalli) looks unwinnable because you have no answer, basically in season 2 capcom nerf the birdie’s worst match ups and give us a lot of good set ups and stuff but they nerf his defensive options too much (nerf to anti air, ex armor and his life) now they realice that make birdie hard to play in a defensive way (and birdie design is a defensive grappler, footsie oriented) so they regret that decision, give us a better defense and nerf the yolo ex bull head.
i agree the nerf to ex bullhead is a heavy hit…im going to be honest…it wasnt like i was releasing ex bullhorn on frame 1 anyway i think it maybe effected me like 10 percent of the time.
Having a wake up option is fine, but why are we forced to sacrifice two buttons to have access to it? Birdie design is based on using most if not all his buttons. I would be more OK with the nerf to ex bull head if they made ex bullborn an actual input.
Cancelling blocked ex bullhorn into v-trigger should have a lot of pushback to compensate the ex bullhead nerf. If Capcom give him his original health, fr.hp and slide he will be pretty good. But yeah, it will never happen.
Besides having to sacrifice 2 buttons, you can’t mash that move due to the command. So it’s not so easy to do as a reversal. The window is tight
Plus you are not considering the grey health which is slow as hell. It’s too slow. Getting grey damage is like getting full damage. You are gonna get that damage soon after the EX Bull Horn hits your opponent, becasue the pacing of the game is too fast. Having an armor is not as good as being invincible. The problem of this character is that he is a footsie character in a game in which footsies are almost non-existent.
Alright so here I am again with some notes regarding unlisted changes for Birdie, this time for season 2.5:
**cr.MP **-- patch notes says the hitbox got expanded upwards for acive frame 4-5, while actually it’s only expanded upwards on the last active frame (5) cr.MK – patch notes said the startup was reduced from 11 to 10 frames, this also influenced the total frames from 30 to 29 EX Bullhorn – EX Bullhorn used to have a hurtbox of Birdie standing up for the first 2 frames, this got replaced with his crouching hurtbox (hurtboxes are lower)
The cr mk buff still feels so random. He’s mostly ok… He just got few useless buttons. Just forward hp (also such a crap cc now), target combo and bullslider.
"FORMER ALEX PLAYER DROPS ALEX FOR BIRDIE."
Problem X has won Sonic Boom out in the UK with Bird Man. He said that he’s not coming back. Birdie players, how does this make you feel?
Ex bullhead was crucial for Problemx win this match. He used it a lot. Don’t know how Birdie will do against Ken after the patch. Glad to see Birdie winning though, it does look like ProblemX outplayed his opponents and didn’t win because he played a cheap character.
It makes me feel great knowing that Birdie has the potential to be a really strong character if Capcom just leaves his ex bull head alone. Problem x was wisely using ex bull head to pressure and get closer to his opponent. Birdie now loses that after this balance update. Two CPT events and two Birdie (Mena RD and Problem X) winners. That probably won’t happen the rest of the season after the changes.
What are Birdie’s upcoming season 2.5 changes? No more armor on EX Bullhead? Props to seeing one more grappler making some noise somewhere. I’ve tried to play him…He ain’t for me.