I honestly have no Idea as I didn’t get the chance to try a lot of other vga boxes. (I tried dirt cheap composite/svideo to 800x600 vga, and believe me, you don’t want to try that out :D)
I just check the reviews on the stuff sold at play-asia there’s always at least one review saying the signal outputed is very disturbed by electrical parasites :\
what are you playing on ps2 ? you know, I guess you could actually find most of those fighting games on Xbox/Wii(or GC) or emulated on PC in their arcade versions, then you can just play on you screen with the best picture you can get.
I got the xrgb because I play a lot of games of retro games or ps2 rpgs etc.
if you really want to play ps2 games you can only find on ps2 get the 24" BenQ that has YUV input (like the FP241W Z/FP241VW/FP241W), but know it will be more expensive than the Iiyama and not as good overall.
but you have to understand that have vga input on a monitor, you need more components inside the screen, that add costs add adds input lag.
the less lag you’ll get will be by inputing native resolution signal to the screen (1080p for a 24", 1440p for a 22"(?)), if you input 480p (with your wii for example) the screen will have to internally upscale to its native resolution which will introduce some lag; if you want to input 480i, deinterlacing will have to be done on top of that, even more lag.
but all in all, if that’s the most lag free experience your loking for, definitely go for PC monitor supporting the native resolution you want to use, and wired controllers.
as for the wii get this and for the 360, an HDMI cable. (If your 360 is NTSC-U and play a lot of SFIII3rd get it ! the xbox1 american version can be found for very cheap ! and it has 480p)
leaveal>SFIII 3rd like any other ps2 480i emulated games on ps3 will lag, and will lag even more on non hardware backward-compatible PS3.
As mentioned before, check out the BenQ E2200HD (22") and E2400HD (24"). These are 16:9 LCD monitors (same as an HDTV; most PC monitors are less wide at 16:10).
You should go 24’ for 1080P and then get a tuner card for television/cable. If you can install it, use MythTV DR OS to record with and you’ll be all set. That’s the setup I’m going for, except I’m going to be streaming my media to a 40 inch.
From what I know, what the brand says about the response time could be off, but 2 ms is the lowest. What you want to find out is the input lag, which is the time it takes for the television to react with the console after you input a command, i.e. qcf + P for hadouken.
yeah input lag+response time is pretty much the time taken to display on the LCD panel what’s coming out of your source (ie pc/console)
Hanzo_Hasashi>a slow response time can typically be see when an object is moving on screen (easiest movement to notice that is horizontally) and starts leaving a “shadow/ghost-trail” behind itself.
When I turn on the television, it says it’s receiving a 480p signal in SD, not ED or HD, could that be a problem? I’m using wired controllers, maybe you can do me a favor and see what’s up? =)
"…Dis hare monitor haz built-in speakerz, DVI/VGA input, 1,000:1 contrast ratio, supportz 1440x900 rezolution 'n it even cumz bundled wit all 'o da necessary adpaterz dat U’ll need to hook up yer PS3/360/Wii.
All U’ll really need to buy iz a set ‘o component AV cablez fer da correspondin’ system (if yer system doezn’t cum wit any 'o component cablez included)…
…As U can see, dis iz a very low-cost, practical ‘n convenient monitor fer yer basic gamin’ needz, ‘n da 23" screensize should be decent enuff fer most people livin’ in college dormz or small apartmentz."
Copypasta’d info in glorious english. Any thoughts? It’s curious that it has the component cable adapter, seems nifty.
opps, sorry (I assumed, given the YUV>VGA cable on your 1st link. you need something more to sync the 480 interlaced signal but maybe it is done with something internal to the monitor)
If they say so, yeah, the PS2 would be a go.
response time is 8ms, which isn’t crazy fast by today’s standart but should be too noticable; I’d be more concerned about the input lag and the overall picture quality/upscaling capacity of this screen
btw, it “supports” full HD, but native resolution is 1360 x 768, so you’re not gonna nice anything if you use higher resolution than that or 720p and it doesn’t have HDMI input nor HDCP support.
Well, I finally made my decision, dropped 250 USD on the LG L227WTG-PF, apparently it has ZERO input lag, invested in this bad boy, for two reasons: try it out on my HDTV to reduce input lag using a VGA box and also for the LG monitor. I’ll be reporting my findings, so wish me the best of luck, I have a good feeling about this, though.
But, many thanks to everyone for contributing! I’ll keep expanding this thread a little if anyone wants some pointers on what to get.
that hd gamebox sound interesting, how much was it ?
I’m sure lot’s of ppl would be interested in knowing the picture quality and the lag induced by it
the LG seems ok, but IIRC the fast time response you can get with overdrive mode induced a bit of ghosting. another problem is that the colors aren’t calibrated (like most LCD) and you need a 200$ probe to do that :\ (that’s also why I chose Iiyama, because colors are factory/precalibrated)
no idea about input lag, and I can to find the website that had that kind of info with the diagram I poster in page one.
hey (hi everyone new to this board) if you, TC, didn’t buy a monitor/tv
then would you consider this?
SAMSUNG 2232BW (2ms, supports 720p, res 1680x1050)
its currently running at $229.00 on Newegg (bought mine on impulse last friday for $209.00)
the deal ending on Nov. 30, 2008…but there might be better deals on monday
I read this, colloquial, review…apparently the author of that particular post has experienced no lag for pc gaming
well I bought it cause I thought it would be step up from a Gateway FDP1976W (has somewhat ghosting issues)
What is the motivation or reason to get an HDTV of a relatively small size?
The way I figure, if I’m sitting away from it an SDTV would hardly look any worse for half the cost, and if I’m right up in front of it I’d might as well be using a better-looking computer monitor.
maybe for hdtv stereo speakers? lol
I don’t know…thats why I recommended a computer monitor, anything less then 24-26" monitor should work fine (right?)
I’m with deadfrog on this one. Not trolling either just curious.
I’m in the market for a 26"-28" computer monitor, would that be better than buying an actual HDTV? I also have the xbox 360 vga cable so I figure I would put that to use or find a monitor with component inputs. Whats a good response time with monitors? Some where between 2-6ms? or is above 2ms too much for fighting games? any help is much appreciated.
Any thoughts? It’s curious that it has the component cable adapter, seems nifty.
