this is the worst post ive ever read on SRK, which is saying something
[LEFT]Iād like to reiterate, best Iron Man: AlukardNY, and if you want to talk about technical, than itās myself.[/LEFT]
For anyone still on the Joker has the best Magneto bandwagon (is anybody out there?), what did you think of JWong absolutely bodying him in true troll fashion 10-2 in Canada this weekend?
Dude doesnāt finish combos. His big gimmick is using the attraction / repulsion move (some would say glitch) to create incoming mixups. And using a unconventional Iron Man assist.
If being able to make a slightly more optimized, max damage combo proved who was the best player, wouldnāt we all be proclaiming Desk as the greatest fighting game player on the planet? Execution matters for sure (and forever handicaps me!) but competitive play also involves adaptation to your opponent and getting reads. Joker failed miserably yesterday both in tournament and in the ft10 on both of those (and wasnāt finishing his combos regardless)
If that was him with 300 bucks on the line, does anyone think heād perform better with 5k+ being the wager? And he didnāt even make top 16.
I was expecting to see the money match between him and Fanatiq but I guess weāll see if it ever happens. I guess Joker drops combos because who goes for really flashy ones, but he still drops combos on a regular.
Though I still feel itās a pretty pointless argument. Filipino Champ is doing better in tournaments with Magneto then all of them combined, so why all the fuss about who the ābestā Magneto is, when neither of the trio are placing as high as their counterparts?
It was a beatingā¦but I think Fanatiq would have probably had just as much trouble against Wongās Wolverineā¦thing is I found Jokerās blocking ability kind of lacking in his FT10, but you got to admit, the actual tournament set was well played.
Because heās going for very hard ones? Heād obviously finish them if he toned down the difficulty of his combos. Iām guessing he just tries to use them in pressuring situations so he can get more experience executing them when it matters.
Well his problems against Wong werenāt really execution relatedā¦he just couldnāt get his pressure started and whatever he did start, Wong was able to block very well. Props to Wong for that, Joker probably thought his Mag pressure was unblockable.
I just watched the tournament set, and while it wasnāt as free as advertised via twitter, the ft10 set sure was. And totally agreed that his blocking was sub par at best. Obviously JWongās Wolvie is super sick, but he also clearly outplayed him with Storm and Gouki.
But other than fancy Magneto / Iron Man combos, what is this guy known for? Other than calling out Fanatiq? And getting absolutely bodied by Justin on stream 10-2? And sorry, but if you canāt execute those fancy Iron Man / Magneto combos damn near every time in a match, then you need better basic 2d fighting game fundamentals (blocking, adapting to your opponent, trying to get reads) and he showed none of that in a 12 game set. Dude just had the same mindset on each and every one of those matches. Having 1 gameplan and sticking to it even when youāre going down in flames isnāt what wins a ft10 or ft15 money match. Adaprt or die.
I could see Joker doing really well playing 2/3 sets with people (even though I think 90%+ of Marvel players think 3/5 should be the standard) but running long sets with someone is a entirely different animal. Once people expect the repulsion / attraction mix up every time (and anyone playing a long set for money would scout this out) thatās a big part of his game out.
You can write me off as some Beyonzo dick rider, but Iām not. Iām just saying, dude is all sizzle and no steak. But thatās just a lowly stream monster posting his opinions on SRK mind you.
Heās supposed to be a top Marvel 2 player and the best XvSF player in Canadaā¦he also beat Fanatiq pretty easily in an XvSF money match some time ago, so their history isnāt really something new. Donāt know much else about him aside from thatā¦
Well, the more you know then. Thanks for dropping some insight.
CAP - Jint - DONE
Comparing Jintās Cap to Condor Missile is like comparing a random Cody to Momochiās
Iād like to change my best Iron Man from Joker to someone who is not Joker.
Jint is freeeeeeeeeā¦like a kite XD.
On that note, I need to step it up. I have a strong Cap, but doesnāt mean Iām a strong player. Still working at it though!
Condor Missles has solid play, but iām not sure if Iād take him as the best Cap. I think that title is up in the air.
Task & Hulk - Airtola - DONE
ā¦surely success indicates who is best with a character? Iām seeing a lot of hate for players who win a lot, and people saying they ādonāt play the character rightā or some such nonsense. Results are better than some abstract ābeing the best player.ā
Anyone got footage of this AlucarD dude? While Iām at it, is there anyone else in the running for best GR?
Not really, because results are affected by many factors, like how strong/weak your opponents are, what kind of matchups you typically have to face, and when it comes to tournaments, how interested you are in actually joining tournaments(for instance, the Japanese have very few tournament results to go by since they rarely join/host marvel tourneys). These factors can skew the meaningfulness of results. There are also certain qualities that are more important when it comes to judging who the best player are, but may not necessarily lead to the best final result.
Results is easy to measure and be objective with, while the abstract stuff can be subjectiveā¦but I think more accurate.
Like for instance, Iām sure you can watch say, a random Cody player play against some opponent and Momochiās Cody play against some other opponentā¦you might have both Cody players winning, or even the random one winning while Momochiās Cody losingā¦but Iām sure you would identify certain qualities(mental awareness, hit confirmation, reactions, matchup knowledge, execution, yomi) in the match that would make it easy to see that Momochiās would be better.
Iād say itās Danke for best Iron Man right now. Who knows, itās subject to change if he challenges Justin to a FT10.
It could be me! Iām working on perfecting my c.M, S blockstrings as we speak!
losing to justing wong is not an indicator of if a player is the best with any given character, itās only indicates whether or not they are within the top 99.99th percentile of players or not.
Also, Jint seems like a pretty average Cap to me unless there is some very recent footage of him that im ignorant of.
I think ICE best play Trish.