Best controller for fighting games?

[Spiral0Architect]

try sliding your thumb across a PS1 dpad, PS2 dpad, then a PS3 dpad.

PS3 dpad will shred your thumb

I read a news story once about some 6 year old girl or something who used the PS3 dpad and it literally put a giant dent in her left thumb bone. let her be a warning to all of you

I will like the source of that story. Any ways real gamers develop a “Gamers” Callus right on the pad of your thumb. A Gamer Callus are second to a seamster callous or rifle callous from doing rifle drill 8 hours a day

The PS3 dpad gave me some serious fucking calluses back when I first started (before I switched to stick).

[perplex_shyt]

Full Schedule’s controller.

[JohnGrimm]

Full Schedule’s controller.

It’s one step closer to being a Hit Box, which inherently makes it godlike.

[Outkast]

My dream pad is the DS2 D-pad, no analogs sticks in the way, 6 DS2 or 1 face buttons, and 2 DS2 right shoulder buttons. That hori controller was so close. One day, one day.

[d3v]

Full Schedule’s controller.

From Tom over at the Reddit thread.

A TO's Perspective on "Top Player Privilege" • r/Kappa

I read Keits’ article. This is a complicated issue and I think reasonable people can reach different conclusions.

Here are some of the things that you open up when you allow buttons to be assigned in that way.

-By adding a u/f+p button, you get hcf + button SPDs and no-error tiger knees.
-You can build a de-facto macro by adding a row of buttons and pianoing them. For example, instant, no-error FADC by adding two buttons [mp + mk + f],[f] and pianoing them.

To me, the overwhelming question is, is it in the best interest of the game for players to add specialized input buttons to lower the difficulty of the game? FullSchedule wasn’t bashful about saying that he added his buttons to make the Viper ball technique significantly easier. It turns a very tricky motion (qcb, uf + button) into qcb + button.

In my opinion that’s not in the best interest of the game. Execution matters and it’s still an exciting component. In fact, input errors determined the outcome of several matches in the top 4 of both MvC3 and SF4 at FR.
So for now, Evo is not changing our rule regarding hardware modifications to controllers.

Yes, this is a subjective matter, and yes there is a huge gray area because of the hitbox. This is a case where we need to balance the intended difficulty level that has been designed into these games with the community’s desire to innovate on the hardware side. To me, the hitbox stays true to the intended method of play, which is one hand controlling character movement with 4 directional inputs (that can be used in combination, yes), while another hand manages the attack buttons.

[GeorgeC]

A classic, digital joystick with a curved 6- or 8-button layout is more versatile and generally more flexible than today’s game pads. Outside of games that require analog control or actually need a thumb stick to control camera angles or aim, it’s still the most versatile controller type made. Admittedly there are specialist games that work better with specialized controllers – racing wheels for driving games, HOTAS/throttle/column sticks for flight sims – but the vast majority of games developed prior to the PS1 era function very well with the stick + 6/8 layout.
The gamepads made today are generally pathetic where fighting games are concerned… they’re constrained by demands for 3-D/FPS games and in many cases use plastic that is more fragile or more brittle than the pads made for the game consoles in the 1990’s! I don’t think there’s been an optimal fighting game pad made as standard console/accessory equipment since the Sega Saturn era. You pretty much have to buy specialized/fighting game pads separate and only Hori makes those on a regular basis anymore and even they get flack for the quality of their gamepads, too.

I frankly think the standard PS and XBox gamepads are sub-optimal and POS as far as traditional fighting games are concerned. The layouts are lousy for reaching every strength level you use, they’re bad for doing special inputs and button presses for many special moves, and the D-pads tend to wear out easily. The D-pads are fairly stiff or too loose and you can’t do spring mods to adjust tension easily there! (LOL) In the long run, it’s easier and cheaper to replace joystick parts than it is to scrap broken pads and have to spend upwards of $60 for full replacements! With joystick pieces, you may be talking component replacements that are on average $3 or less a part. Even the most expensive component of the JLF to replace – the PCB/substrate – is only $15. The stick parts are still in production for most popular Sanwa and Seimitsu digital joysticks. You can’t say the same for most gamepad designs. Clones of the older-style gamepads tend to be inferior to original production gamepads, too.

[C-Sword]

There are Kickstarters for games, but I’d like to see one for the ‘‘perfect’’ fightpad.

[Alexisdabomb]

Perfect fightpad would be: Hori/Saturn style D-pad, maybe a little wider and rounded to easily allow short hops in KOF. 6 face buttons. 4 shoulder buttons. Buttons spaced appropriately and big (like the Madcatz fightpads). Swappable plugs for Playstation/Xbox/PC. Easily open the controller to clean. That would be it. Difficult part would be the plugs.

[Kuniku]

I once completed the arcade mode of tekken tag using a dance mat :3

[69mustang]

+1 for the Sega Saturn pad. I have loved it since its JPN debut. Fantastic for emulators as well.

[Omnigear]

If your thumb is getting calluses, it will get better… I spent countless hours playing hyper sf on the snes. Just give your thumb a rest and get back at it when it cools down.

[Kuniku]

If your thumb is getting calluses, it will get better… I spent countless hours playing hyper sf on the snes. Just give your thumb a rest and get back at it when it cools down.

The hours I put into Capcom Vs SNK 2 EO on the gamecub pad… that killed my thumb even with thick leather like callouses!

[petran79]

If your thumb is getting calluses, it will get better… I spent countless hours playing hyper sf on the snes. Just give your thumb a rest and get back at it when it cools down.

I spent two hours trying to do a single 360 grappling move on a Dreamcast pad. 720 moves worked fine, but 360 moves required such a precision like no other gamepad. you’ll need separate muscle memory to control this pad for left and right direction.

[kedawa]

Mechanical keyboard with n-key rollover.

[Omnigear]

I have used my shirt over the Directional Pad makes it slide easier.

If your thumb is getting calluses, it will get better… I spent countless hours playing hyper sf on the snes. Just give your thumb a rest and get back at it when it cools down.

I spent two hours trying to do a single 360 grappling move on a Dreamcast pad. 720 moves worked fine, but 360 moves required such a precision like no other gamepad. you’ll need separate muscle memory to control this pad for left and right direction.

[SaikyoStyle]

If your thumb is getting calluses, it will get better… I spent countless hours playing hyper sf on the snes. Just give your thumb a rest and get back at it when it cools down.

Play through the pain, your body will adjust.

That aside I am curious, Have people used hit boxes in tournaments?
All I ever see is arcade sticks and controllers.

[nsc]

a few people have but hitboxes are young.

I feel like it’ll be a couple years into the ps4/xbone era of fightan (like when games are actually out) when hitboxes really get into the scene.

[ElliePhil]

Dreamcast controller was best for Plasma Sword (and that was about it)

[triplexraider]

What does everything think of this controller?

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00EOI2MRS/ref=cm_sw_r_tw_dp_HlNAub1VEPV7V

[echelonNYK]

a few people have but hitboxes are young.

I feel like it’ll be a couple years into the ps4/xbone era of fightan (like when games are actually out) when hitboxes really get into the scene.

I highly doubt that Hitboxes will ever become big in the FGC. It’s the 3D TV of tech.