What are your thoughts in the Makoto matchup? I’ve been really free to them as of late.
Probably slightly in her favor, lots of damage really quickly and st.mp being good at stopping most pokes means you can’t keep her out.
It’s a good match up, unless she gets meter for her dangerous EX-moves. She can dominate Bison with meter, especially EX-Oroshi, and EX-hayate. I don’t think she has any good OS against Bison without meter either. So it boils down to who gets the meter advantage, she can’t really stop you from building meter.
I don’t think she is that bad of a matchup - she can’t make you take repeated guesses like Abel, and she needs meter to OS your reversals from wake up, she does have good options against jump back though, usually you would want to avoid jumping from mix ups until she has an ultra to make her grab dangerous.
Bear in mind her St Strong starts up a lot slower than our St Short so if you’re within range you can stop retarded St Strong spam by hitting Short. Watch for an opening and ex PC right through her frame traps. Mak up close is a scary prospect so your goal is to make her scared to press buttons up close when you have meter stocked.
Do not jump unless you’re absolutely sure it’s a safe jump setup as she can score two fukiage’s and an ex rush punch for like a billion damage off an anti air.
She’s mad free to frame traps cos she has no decent invincible reversal so Cr Jab > Throw/Frame trap mixups after a dash in giver her a lot of trouble.
Watch out for multiple karakusa’s - If you get hit by one then be ready to backdash a second in case they go for a reset. Punish with roundhouse from afar or dash back in for a combo.
Can anyone tell me why the Bison/Guile matchup shouldn’t be considered 7:3 in Guile’s favour? I randomly left a Youtube comment (saying Guile:Bison is 7:3) on a Guile vs Bison video where the Guile shutdown all Bison’s options of getting in. LiangHuBBB then sends me numerous arguments (not very good ones) of why the matchup is almost even. Eventually it ends with LiangHuBBB saying there aren’t many Guiles in the world like ACE IRIN who have the combo execution to beat Bison. I refuted that by saying - WTF, Guile doesn’t need combos to beat Bison… just well spaced sonic booms, normals and the air grab. And that’s where the argument stopped.
Sorry for the wall of text. Any else have opinions?
far from even, especially when Guile pressures you in the corner!
s.HK > Gief
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Guile has combos?
I guess it’s hard to see why it’s a bad matchup, because guile is basically just holding back and pressing fierce, and bison slowly loses his life without anything remarkable happening.
Thoughts on breaking down a really patient Sagat?
Great fireball game so he’s really difficult to get in on and AA also on point so jumping’s out. My bud plays him so bloody patiently and he’s a solid player too so gimmicky bollocks like crossup PC’s and empty DR shenanigans doesn’t fly.
I think it has to come down to footsies in the end. Sagat has terrible walk speed so I think it’s just a matter of getting him in the sweet spot at st.forward / st.roundhouse range, stop him from throwing fireballs, whiff punishing with pokes and blowing through dodgy fireballs with Ex Scissors.
Am I reading the matchup right d’ya reckon? Cheers in advance.
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Dieminion, that is arguably best Guile in the US, and might be the best Guile in the world.
I think he is monster of patient.
To Sagat MU?
I don’t really know now, the risk is still too high on Bison when both in end game situation…
Sagat have advantage to get in and one guess to turn the table.
so stay away from EX knee, stay away from that DP, kara DP…just run while you can.
How come Sagat still have those “I guess wrong 10 times in the game but 1 guess right I kill you” ability? Still able to force you guess around 20 sec left in the game is too much of risk, anything you do might get a DP FADC into Ultra and he wins.
hey man, go to search neurosis vs boonchan and heavyweapon ( and ryan hart not so sure). almost feel like the match up is slightly favoured to bison.
How about yang match up? Anyone mind to share?
that DIct EX PC from across the screen too much, EX should be used to nail Gat in the corner use those EX headstomps wisely, PC cross up is nice but again getting too predictable with those after lk scissors
rage quit.
just kidding
try not to get cornered and be the one who keeps pressure on, footsies, poke him
I thought Yang/Yun have problem deal with Bison?
if you place your RH right, they will jump and land on it, no matter they dive kick or not, same with ADON.
Timing is very crucial, in the right range if you place the RH right, no matter what they do, it will hit them.
work like charm on adon, some one keep saying WTF why my air juguar kick get hit?
a lot of player have dive kick or air move think they get in to Bison free? make them think again, you can’t approach Bison with jump in and take no risk, only Honda and Sakura and Gief can do that.
So you have answers to everything right now?
What about Cammy? I have the feeling she gets in, sooo easy? I always have problems against a good cammy.
well kindly thx everyone teach me here…some how I decide to play Bison lame, it work out all right I guess. And I don’t have answer for everything…just try to play safe
Anti air is most my damage comes from now, even on better players cause Bison ground game are really full of craps and lots of his stuff are either still broken
or nearly gdlk in certain form…and his special is part of his footsie, and his footsie can also be defensive AND offensive, depend on how you pace and how you switch…I don’t think there is too many character can do that in the game, and have good wake up option.
to Cammy MU.
play her like you play gief?
if she can’t get close to you, you win.
you don’t punish or don’t punish hard enough on her stuff, she wins.
she gets in, she win if you don’t know how to mix up your defense and run away.
she bait out your attempt to run away, reversal, she win.
her footsie range? she win up close.
Try to play her like you would playing a Gief, and don’t press anything up close, eat that throw is better than cr.fierce x2 combo which did like 40% on counter hit, 2 combo you will about to dizzy.
Besides Guile and Chun, I have a hard time against abel. They say its in bisons favor but once he puts pressure on you and catches you with tornado throw, its over. What are some good tactics against him?
I don’t know able either, just avoid that step kick at all cost, don’t even bother to punish that wheel kick, and if he have hard time to get in, so do you.
SUPARNOVAX have old MU post, I think is still apply, go back to first page and read all of them.