I know there was an old one of these, but from what I can tell it has disappeared. Just want to see if there are other people on here to also play this game. I am originally a bemani player, so fighters are a new thing to me. IIDX on the other hand is something I am still very into.
With the release of Empress a few weeks ago I have been playing the shit out of it again. I’m working on high tier 11’s and lower tier 12’s right now on singles and on doubles I am getting into 8’s.
I usually play on a DJ DAO ASC controller, but when I travel I bring around the jkoc.
So the questions stands, is anyone else here interested in the game?
I’m the opposite of you.
I started out just playing fighting games a year ago and since the summer I’ve been getting into rhythm games as well.
I’m mostly a DJMax player (Fever, Black Square, but mostly Technika) since that’s all I have available to me, but I was able to give IIDX a go when I went up to Arcade Infinity the other week. Shit’s hard.
I have a question for y’all. How are you guys playing your imported copies?
Sup Brett. :3 Did you ever get to finish your Ristaccia themed stick?
I’m still trying to unlock and play as much EMPRESS as I can… Been playing for almost 5 years and I’m still struggling with lvl 11’s. It’s even harder for me to play at home because I have a 42" Sharp Aquos TV. Looks fantastic but it lags like hell. Still trying to find the right timing adjustment. I started getting into Street Fighter (mainly ST/HD remix) this year around the time SF4 came out. lol. Pop’n Music I still play once in a while at Arcade Infinity, since I pretty much work there. I made some mediocre videos of me playing IIDX as well on my channel. See sig! :woot:
So here’s a question: how do you get past ‘The Wall’? I’ve been playing on and off since 9th/10th style, but i can still only clear 9s and 1 or 2 10s. is it just a combination of hs and towelling?
I had my stick art made, but when I went to go print it out they said the dimensions were 2’x4’. So until I I resize it, i’ll have to be happy that I at least have my pink buttons.
There’s really no one specific wall. As you play you are going to hit a lot of them and be very frustrated every time you do. Here are my suggestions for how to get better and get through those walls.
1: Find a speed you are comfortable reading at. This is very easy on gold, troops and empress because the sudden+ option has the green number on it. Keep the green number at the speed you like, but as you continue playing, try to read a little faster.
2a: Play songs you cannot pass. Don’t get fooled by ratings. You will run into songs that are 9s that are harder than 10s, 11s easier than 10s, and so on. If you keep playing songs you can clear, you are not getting experience on something hard for you. I had this problem for a long time. It was frustrating to not be able to clear songs, so I just wouldn’t play them. This really makes no sense at all. How can you get better at something that’s hard, with out trying it. Just like in fighting games. You get better by playing people you cannot beat. Nothing will improve you like experience.
2b: Play custom expert courses. This is something a lot of american players pretty much don’t know about because there seems to be no incentive to play it when you have free mode, but you couldn’t be more wrong. If you watch videos of top japanese players like DOLCE. or Lilfull, you’ll usually see “CUSTOM EXPERT COURSE” scrolling at the bottom. Make a course of songs you cannot pass, even songs that you just sit at 2% through most of it. If you have a song where you flatline the end or cannot even keep it near 80% at the end, it’s hard to see improvement between plays. But when you play it in an expert course you try to keep building your bar or just stay alive in the course. As you keep playing it, you can see your improvement and you get experience on the charts. For example, I cannot even come close to clearing AA [a], so I have made an expert course of AA [a] five times in a row. Sometimes I fail it, sometimes I scrape by, but I get better and better. Just keep trying to beat your old score.
3: Find a good finger position. I use the style most left side players to. On the right hand I use my ring finger on the 7 key, middle finger on 6, thumb on 5, index on 4. This hand is usually in this position during the whole song. Left hand is a little more tricky because of having to handle the scratch. Since I play on an ASC, I can’t wrist scratch too well. So here’s what I do. Turn my left hand in hand, pinky handles scratch, thumb hit’s 1, when there are no scratches middle finger hits 2, when there is a scratch i use my index, then there is the 3 key. This is the one that I have to always switch it up on. Without scratches my left index hits it, if there are scratches but on 1 key, I use my left thumb, where there are scratches AND the 1 key, I use my right thumb.
More importantly than anything, it’s about being comfortable when you play. If this doesn’t work for you, do something different.
4: Play on random. When you started playing, random probably seemed like a mod that would make it harder, but it’s just the opposite. If a song is heavy on scales, random can break it up into alternating patterns. I stand thinking that there are no bad randoms. Even if you get something that is really hard, DON’T QUIT OR RESTART. Take it as an opportunity to get better at things that give you trouble. If you really want yo get better, play through on a tough random. You probably won’t increase your score, or come closer to clearing, but you will start to learn how to work your fingers in way you aren’t good at
5: If you are confused by a section, take it into training mode. This is necessary for some harder songs. (G2 [a], V [a], Holic [a], etc) Training mode will help you learn the beat and rhythm or the key pattern. I’m not saying to memorize it key patterns, because you should be playing on random in most cases. However, you will learn be able to understand it a little better. Select a measure you have trouble with and slow it down. This is what I did with V [a]. I took measure 69 and slowed it down to -6, after I figured it out, I kept increasing speed until I could do it at normal speed.
6: To improve your timing all you can do is play easier songs and try to raise your score, then move onto harder songs.
I haven’t played in a long time. I got up to 9’s playing with messed up technique and couldn’t scratch worth a damn, so I had to start over again. :lol:
I just got into IIDX. I’m generally decent at music games, but this one is wrecking me. I bought a US controller and I’ve been playing the Japanese games. I’m having trouble even beating 3s and 4s…
Guess I just gotta keep practicing and practicing though.
Clembo2021: Yeah, just keep practicing, most importantly keep playing songs you can’t clear.
pimp bishop donjon: Which 11’s?
Anyone with scratching problems: There are usualy a few, or at least one scratch heavy songs per style. Find it and work on it on random so that you have to learn to scratch with all sorts of button combinations.
I got into IIDX in college when a friend of mine from NJ started kicking the ass of everyone when it came to rhythm games - he’s a regular at 8 on the Break. I mostly played Happy Sky through Gold with a US-KOC and made my way up to passing 9s. I seriously envy those of you who have access to actual IIDX machines or ASCs - we only get DDR machines in the one arcade that’s still alive in my area. =/
Though I have to say… if I had a proper Pop’N controller, I would probably play that a lot more than IIDX. I got to play on a Ransai ASC a few years back and that was the most fun I’ve had with a bemani ever. Just something about getting to use your palms/fingers to hit those giant, primary colored buttons is too good, lol. xD
I would still play the shit out of pop’n if they made a new CS (psp version doesn’t count) or I there were an arcade with one.
As for my story, my first experience with bemani was a beatmania core remix2 machine (probably got that name wrong) when I was on vacation back in 2001 I think. Then I played 6th style at a guy’s house when I was in high school. Then I played on and off, and by that I mean I played at friend’s houses, after 9th style came out. I never owned the game myself until Gold came out in arcade, so I think that was 2005/6. I never actually got serious about the game until empress was announced.