BB Cross Tag Discussion: Fate of 4 Worlds

Hecatom · October 5, 2017, 4:35am

Speaking of Nanase, when is Uniel being released?

Monkey66 · October 5, 2017, 5:39am

Sometime late 2017

PVL_93_RU · October 5, 2017, 7:42pm

Gameplay details from SKD

So, game is designed to be pad friendly. 5 buttons, ABC, Tag, and Assist.

First, A/B are standard normals. There are command normals, 4X, 2X, I don’t think there’s 6X because of the way run works in this game lol (there’s no walking, you just run). There are auto combos via 5AA…/5BB… on hit and block. 5aa, 5aaa and 5bb, 5bbb are special normals you can’t do otherwise.

C button is…universal overhead or sweep for 5C and 2C respectively lol.

Tag button just tags, no idea what else.

Assist has 3 attacks, neutral, back, and forward.

There’s a mechanic where you cause your assist to stay on screen and you can keep using them to attack. Not sue what the input is to start it, I think it’s like 236 assist. They like, power up when they land on screen and it starts draining the assist call gauge until it’s empty and then they leave. You can command them to do their assist attacks without cooldown, not entirely sure what the input is to command them but I think you hold assist and press A/B/C. A is neutral assist attack, B is forward assist and C is backwards assist.

ASSISTS CAN EAT SOME ATTACKS SO HAPPY BIRTHDAY SPECIFIC COMBOS EXIST

Macros, there’s…BC (throw) tech window looks like BB. I think there’s a command dash at the start of it, lol. A+Tag is 2 button DP. ABCD I think, is burst (costs 1 bar) and causes the combo to break and you switch characters.

Specials, 236 and 214 only it seems. A/B and C variants. C specials cost meter.

Supers are marvel style. 236BC and 214BC for level 1 and level 2 super respectively. Intuitive DHC’s for team supers.

This sounds like whack to me.

LivewireX · October 5, 2017, 8:04pm

Just A/B/C? I’m not sure how that would work because of how the entire Drive thing works with Blazblue characters. I mean hell, if Noel’s in the game for instance (which I expect she will be), I don’t even know how you could manage that without D buttons.

PVL_93_RU · October 5, 2017, 8:11pm

More infos

So, the mechanic resonance blaze is kinda x Factor comeback mechanic like, you get it when one of your characters die (you activate it with assist button after they’re dead) not sure what the effects are beyond red health regen and powered up supers.

For incoming, not sure what dictates it, but I’ve only seen attacks done on incoming, lol. Mostly vertical, some side? not sure if its linked to characters, I’ll explore that later.

There IS TRM IN THE GAME and you can’t be thrown during blockstun. Throw is actually proximity based, you can throw immediately point blank but if there’s a little bit of space the throw input will automatically close the gap. Of course there’s a maximum run before the throw comes out if you do it from far away.

There don’t seem to be air unblockable normals? Maybe anti airs. It seems like there’s definitely head invuln moves, but ill dig deeper into this later.

The other thing, I said there were 4x normals, it actually only applies to A attacks I think.and 2a seems to be universally low. So 4a, 2a, 5a, 5aa, 5aaa, 2b, 5b, 5bb, 5bbb, 5c, 2c, jA, jB, jC, and specials. It seems like characters have an air special, but only assigned to one direction. However, they still have variants. For example, ragna has nightmare edge and berial on j214a / j214b, and he has no j236 series but Narukami air fireball is j236X (no j214 series).

Muttonman · October 5, 2017, 8:55pm

Everyone is puppet character. And people thought this would be easy and casual…

drunkards_walk · October 5, 2017, 9:05pm

Wow, this looks custom designed for casual fg-playing uber weebs. TBH I can’t blame ASW for cornering that market with DBZ and now this, but I am a little salty that we will likely forego a lot of GG stuff for the time being so they can work on this nonsense. I’ll certainly not be playing either

PVL_93_RU · October 5, 2017, 9:57pm

Amazing char select

ClutchCombo · October 5, 2017, 10:28pm

I love the theme for that leaked video. Had to find it online. I know people find it annoying but its very raw and epic!

Volt · October 5, 2017, 10:57pm

I just can’t take this control scheme seriously.

On the other hand, P4A autocombos are in. I’m cool with that.

What was Narukami’s j.214 series?

… How do you do Aerial Inferno Divider rekkas!?

Muttonman · October 5, 2017, 11:21pm

To use GG terms, it’s KSD, 5 normal specials, 2 force breaks, 2 overdrives, and then 3 tag attacks per character. You then have 3 air normals and up to 4 air specials it seems.

That’s not too bad? I’d really rather have one more real attack button though

drunkards_walk · October 5, 2017, 11:39pm

3 normals and all specials either 236 or 214 is so dumb, when is this hand-holding trend going to stop? Also only having a run is really dumb

PVL_93_RU · October 5, 2017, 11:43pm

How are they going to make the characters that rely on or have a very unique Drive attacks work anyway, since there’s only 3 attack buttons?

Mylzileto · October 6, 2017, 12:16am

Well, I guess this means most of my dream team picks are out. Kokonoe, Shadow Labrys, Relius, maybe Carmine too, they just wouldn’t work with this simplified control scheme. Maybe I can get Chie/Hilda though, if I’m lucky.

KensouADV · October 6, 2017, 12:35am

Maybe go full Angel in KOF and have her chains being command normals mitigated between the 3 buttons. At least now I have more hopes for Tao now. But how Ragna does Inferno Divider and his other moves?

So, can I have hopes for Akatsuki and May too?

Volt · October 6, 2017, 12:47am

While I’m kinda freaking out at this point, I want to calmly analyze the bits of Ragna and Jin’s footage from that Ruby MM Nightmare.

Maybe we can guess the normals now that we know the combo system.

Hawkingbird · October 6, 2017, 12:48am

Seven character per series, huh? Does RWBY even have three additional characters worth adding?

PVL_93_RU · October 6, 2017, 12:53am

Oh they’ll find whom to find I’m sure

PVL_93_RU · October 6, 2017, 1:31am

Final BBTAG notes from SKD for today

Well, first up, you can call assists during specials too, and even on whiff. While an assist is on screen, you can press tag to switch control to that character. I think in conjunction with the assist install thing I talked about earlier, you can do some ridiculous stuff.

The dual character control seems like the most open ended part of the game.

Every character has an anti air, but I don’t think they’re the same input. 5b or 2b though.

On normals and the gatling tree, yes (((you can reverse beat))). Gatlings look like

4x into 5/2x interchangeably, then into the other button strength, then you can go back. Looks like there’s a repeat limit of 1, and 5aa for example cant go into 2a.

This is really confusing, so I’ll give an example gat narukami string

4a 2a 4a 5a 5aa 5aaa 5b 5bb 2b 5a 5aa…

Pretty much if you understand the tree you can do a hell of a lot of gats. There’s no IB/Pushblock. Persona DP/Throw os works, lol. You can also piano assist into dp and have it cover recovery, lol.

On resonance, not sure what increases the stocks but it pretty much has lv1-4 and it dictates the duration you get when your character dies. I tried using resonance like an RC, it didn’t work. You CAN act immediately after flash though, I had a normal on me during flash and DP’d it. Anyways, that’s about it for now but really juicy implications.

Muttonman · October 6, 2017, 1:45am

2 normals and a dust even. With 3 assist attacks though I suspect I’ll function as a third normal button.

That said, Dengenki did 3 buttons + assist and only quarter circles and it was fine. This seems to be heavily leaning in it for inspiration; add an assist attack and tag in exchange for making your C button less.

Probably either left out or folded into specials/ assists. You get 7 special moves on the ground after all