Public Enemies was trash. It followed the Advent Children school of filmmaking: awesome fight scenes sandwiched in-between some of the most batshit-horrible storyline and dialog you’ll ever hear. For all their problems, I still didn’t regret watching Superman Doomsday, Justice League New Frontier, Gotham Knight, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, or Crisis on Two Earths; I did regret watching Public Enemies. I look back at JLU, or even ahead to Red Hood (which, again, is actually quite good, the best DC animated production since the Cadmus arc of JLU), and wonder how they can have amazing fight scenes AND a great story with reasonably good lines while Public Enemies is content to dish out its Michael Bay-esque transitions into fight scenes and that nonsensical, out-of-place “Luthor’s going crazy” subplot. I’d still rather watch it than Advent Children, just barely, but I’d rather watch something else entirely than either.
Best thing about Public Enemies was when Shazam and Hawkman opposed Superman and Batman; best sequence in the whole movie. This new Apocalypse movie better not be shit. Red Hood has partially renewed my faith. I pray to Dr. B, Mad Sexy? owner of his own awesome websites and announcer of his own birthday on SRK, that Apocalypse will be worth the money.
Let’s be honest, the Public Enemies book it was based on wasn’t that great either. I don’t exactly remember the original book but I don’t think the Hawkman/Captain Marvel scene was in it, which would make sence that it was the best part of it. I am glad they kept the “Are you sure it will work?” “Does Power Girl have big-” line though.
I saw the Wonder Woman movie last night, as I said on IRC, it’s basically the story of a thousand hot lesbians who in the end, are craving for some cock.
I knew I’d be wrong Oh well. I still stand by my statement that the source material wasn’t that great. Seriously, that was retarded of Batman to do that.
I still kinda liked Public Enemies. So far I don’t think I’ve ever been disappointed with DC animated stuff. Props to them. I wish I could say the same of their live action flicks but Batman movies make up for the bad ones (Catwoman).
But see thats my problem. If the book was garbage in the first place (at least from what hardcore comic book readers have said), can you really say the movie is garbage also when it was only stay true to the source material?
Also Advent Children actually got WAAAAY better once we got the Complete version since all the plotholes from the first version was explained.
For the record, there is word that a new Batman animated series is in the early stages, and is going back to the ‘dark’ roots ala BTAS. Be that as it may…PLEASE INCLUDE CASS ;.;
lol i want spoiler so tim drake can have a heart attack every fucking week and batman to go “what the fuck tim?! get this bitch out of the batcave”
tim drake could honestly have his own cartoon…itd be badass. mid 90’s robin was fucking awesome…hot g/f…ninjas,shiva,semi team ups with batman…issues with his dad(before they killed him off).
nah. because most new incarnations show disabled/retired batgirl 1. cassandra is a fucking ninja in a batgirl costume and most girls unless asian cant really get behind her. spoiler would bring in the girl crowd, she can be retooled to be less annoying but she really wasnt that bad in the mid 90’s. when tim first met her and first starting dating her. it was a cute dynamic to watch them go patrol together in tims suped up version of a firebird car.
You pose an interesting question with no easy answer.
Look at How to Train Your Dragon. An amazing film, almost on par with Pixar’s efforts; surprisingly deep and with compelling characters and a great story. But it’s leaps and bounds different from the book. Hiccup is much older in the movie, his dragon is much more formidable, and the character Astrid is all new. Do we condemn HttYD for not being like the book, despite getting well-deserved critical acclaim and being, overall, one of the year’s best films?
On the other hand, look at some of the Harry Potter movies. Yes, they don’t translate over every aspect from the books – film is a different beast and requires a specialized approach – but some aspects of the source material that should have made it in, didn’t.
When I look at Public Enemies, I look at something based on a cornball story arch of a comic series that’s pretty campy to begin with… but I don’t expect the folks that handle DC’s animated films to be happy with a mediocre film based on mediocre source material. If the guy who made Death Note said to me, “Carlos, I want you to write a Death Note movie, in a separate canon that still captures important aspects of the source material,” I’m going to try and write the best damn Death Note movie I possibly can, source material be damned – I’ll grab what I need from it and trash the rest.
I’ll take your word re: Advent Children. FF7 is already a way overrated property; I went into Advent Children not expecting much, and somehow even those meager expectations were dashed.
true but its different vibe and demo when you get these people animated. Most people didnt give a fuck about the static comic…but when he had a cartoon holy shit nigga got like 4 season. 4 SEASONS OF A BLACK TEEN SUPERHERO!
you know just as much as i know…they didnt pick hal jordan for justice league just cause he would be a good character. they picked him for the demo he’d bring in as well.
spoiler depending on how she is written can easily bring in non comic girls. trust me i work at the gap i see these teeny boppers all day. you’d be surprised what gets their goat.
Apparently this thing comes out today or tomorrow. I’m gonna track it down. Word has it they kinda neutered it (no blood).
And also this new BTAS remake or whatever best have Conroy at LEAST for the voice of Bats. I know Hammil kinda wants to step down from voice acting so I’ll give him a break.
Oh well. I still stand by my statement that the source material wasn’t that great. Seriously, that was retarded of Batman to do that.