this movie…LMAO
shit at this point they might as well get pete holmes to play batman
i dont think anyone not almost 60, and a superman nerd, gave two shits that they glossed over him figuring out a secret identity. how long have we known that story, and its just common sense he would create a secret identity. i didnt need the movie to take 20 minutes out of its way to be like hey guys, this is why i feel i cannot just be superman, living at home with my mom forever, or coming out as clark kent, and never being able to live some semblence of a normal life because the human species is retarded and will yell at me if i dont fix all their problems.
we will be able to see clark balance out being superman and clark kent in the next movie. i agree that is a vital aspect of his character, but you know what else people like superman for? fucking shit up, throwing shit, flying fast, running fast, throwing fools into the sun, saving ho’s, etc… sit the fuck down jerry seinfeld, you dork. no one would want to see your boring ass take on superman, and the desperate, melodramatic story of how lonely and sad he is, as he tries to find a way to fit in with the humans, and maintain his secret identity.
i saw superman throw a nigga throw like 10 buildings. ive been waiting for that. thank you snyder. i dont have to see another movie of him being emo over some bulimic bitch that wont tell him that she gave birth to his son, and watch superman fight mountains and falling objects.
isnt that a common theory though? that the amazons are somehow descendants of kryptonians.well depending on the writing. wonder woman has never been stronger then superman to my knowledge. at least in a majority of the writings. even being half of supermans strength isnt exactly weak. lol
i personally prefer the greek mythology route, but i know as they will want to somehow ground this to “reality”, they will take a more scientific route i bet, because no one is allowed to have fun. like her lasso i could see being some type of high energy wip that is a common tool amongst the amazonians, rather then being the lasso of truth. i mean they could make the story work without a doubt, but i would definitely prefer greek mythology based amazonians and wonder woman.
if they want more kryptonians, just stuff in the kandor story. lol this movie has so much going on. shits gonna be like 3 hours long. a classic wonder woman vs supergirl fight would be sexy and dope. i dont think im getting supergirl anymore. now that we have our wafer thin wonder woman casted already.
i actually care that they glossed over it…especially since so much was taken from birthright. that was a good piece in their about his identity and what it represented. his whole secret identity was a joke in the movie and basically a plot hole in my mind. the fact anyone could basically figure out clark is superman makes it a pointless thing in this superman world.
Last time I checked, which admittedly was a really, really long time ago (having a phenomenal memory tends towards this), wasn’t Diana made from… clay?
That’s the old origin. In the new origin being made was clay was a cover story Diana’s mom made up to keep Hera from knowing Diana was Zeus’s daughter.
He’s right. His specific gripe notwithstanding, his general point is that the movie was jam-packed with brainless violence, enough that it hurt the part of the movie that’s supposed to tell a story about the lives of characters.
And at no point is he asking for anything like Superman Returns, so you can put that straw man down.
There’s also an issue nowadays that nobody wants to confront: it’s taken as a given that movies are long-running franchises now, and instead of criticizing movies for their deficiencies, we just say “Oh well. They’ll get to that in the next movie.” This is a bad precedent to set. A movie needs to be able to function on its own.
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Sorry, I don’t care about them not touching on Superman’s analysis of how weak humans are by being Clark Kent. IT’s the worst disguise ever.
I have NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER read a Superman comic book because of the engaging dynamic of his secret identity.
I read Superman comics because he was the strongest thing in DC Comics and could fuck shit up when he wanted to. I read comics to see him fight with Lex. I actually started to care for him when he fought Doomsday and was like the only guy who could do shit. I didn’t really care about “OMG Supes is all over the TV and no one can tell its Kent!”.
I’m sorry, I understand wanting it all, and despite my sarcasm, I’m all for them exploring those types of dynamics, but violence? THAT’S WHY I SEE ACTION MOVIES. When I go watch XMen or Superman I want to see shit GET BLOW’D UP. I was PERFECTLY content with what they did with the latest Superman movie. Yes, aspects of it could have been handled better, but I’m not going to lower the value of a movie for what’s not there. I’m going to rate a movie based on what IS there and my enjoyment of it.
Shit as Goodm0urning alluded too, if you worry about Kent too much, you get Superman Returns…and we saw how that movie turned out.
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…That’s not why I brought up Superman Returns at all. I brought it up because Jimmy implied that it’s all or nothing–you either get a brainless smash’em’up movie or you get a movie that wallows in grief and loneliness. Which anybody can see is completely ridiculous.
As for having the most ridiculous disguise in the DCU, that honor goes to Batman. Anyone who can’t deduce his identity in under a minute is a moron. Kent’s a regular guy, a nobody. Bruce Wayne is one of the most famous people in the world.
Why do you say that? If someone was going around London beating up criminals, I wouldn’t say oh that’s Prince Harry. What obvious clues has Batman dropped outside of Wayne Enterprises that would make it easy for any Gotham citizen to figure out who he is within a minute?
Maybe not just any Gotham citizen–surely there are some people who squeaked through high school with a D- average and spend their time watching Jersey Shore or whatever’s on. But surely your exceptionally bright but otherwise commonplace Gotham schmoe is capable of a little simple deductive reasoning.
(I’ll admit that this theory rests heavily on the way that Batman displays his tech… which, given a bad history of undisciplined writing, is a pretty significant factor. We’ll assume here that he uses the Batmobile, the grappling gun, the night vision goggles, and whatnot.)
We start with the fact that Batman wears a mask, which automatically implies that he spends some of his time under a different identity. So you start narrowing down the things that are most likely true for that identity.
- Batman is probably in great shape.
- He’s probably a guy.
- He’s probably on the younger, more physically capable side of adulthood.
- Given the tech, he probably has a lot of money.
- Given the tech, he’s probably well-connected in the tech industry.
- Given the localization of his activities, he lives in or around Gotham City.
Once you’ve built that profile, you might not go straight to Bruce Wayne, but he’s definitely one of the top few candidates. So you start considering Bruce Wayne, who, mind you, is a celebrity whose life is a matter of public record. He has generic facial features, which might have helped his disguise, except that generic features don’t help at all when your face is on TV and on magazine covers all the time.
- His parents were murdered, which doesn’t guarantee that he has a chip on his shoulder about the whole crime thing, but it’s a good likelihood.
- He left the country without explanation for a large stretch of his 20s.
- His return roughly coincided with the first reported appearances of Batman.
You don’t have to be that pencil-necked prick from Archives in the Dark Knight movie to figure out that Bruce Wayne is probably Batman. Hell, you don’t even need a lot of specialized information, considering his status as a wealthy socialite. E! and People Magazine have already told you everything you need to know.
As Sherlock Holmes says, the more bizarre a case is, the easier it is to solve. It’s the really common, unremarkable cases that are tough to crack. Bruce/Batman is a bizarre case–lots of distinctive factors to go by.
Ironically, Bruce’s maskless Travis Bickle lookalike disguise from Batman: Year One might have been a better crime-fighting persona. Nobody in the shit part of town is going to suspect the guy who looks like he belongs there.
When you put it like that I guess it is straight forward, sounds like in a real life scenario Master Wayne would need to employ more body doubles.
The hilarity of the thought of Batman body doubles…
And I’m sure he could pull it off too.
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I recall Superman doing him a favour once
i think superman has done quite a few favors in his tenure as the go to guy for the entire dcu.
They could double for each other.
We need a six to six-and-a-half-foot tall white guy with dark hair and a square jaw. Does anyone know where we can find one of those?
the majority of the heroes in the DCU raise their hands
Ah the Halloween jokes they could pull. Aquaman dressed as Flash, Batman dressed as Flash, Flash dressed as Superman dyed hair…who is flash right now anyways…I stopped following around the time Wally West started using the speed equation.
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Barry Allen.
Back from the dead again I guess shrug - Flash still needs his own movie. Not in a Justice League kind of way, but in his own movie kind of way. Superman and Batman always get the glory, and Green Lantern just…I don’t know what they were doing, but Flash is on that level where he deserves a movie more so than say Wonder Woman.
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