Back-Seat Tournament Players!?

My friends and I have gotten into a heated debate on whether or not it is appropriate for friends to give advice to players in-between their matches or sets during a tournament.

So, my question to you all is, do you feel comfortable when someone gives advice to you or your opponent during or in-between a match or set?

Please give me your opinions!

Depends on how good the advice is. If my friend was annoying me with bad advice I’d be pissed, if it’s good advice then bring it on. Also, wrong forum.

Considering this is a question for players and nobody in GD plays fighting games, you’re much better off asking in FGD so I’m moving your thread.

Learn to read forum descriptions. Go to FGD.

I there is a fine line between where someone giving you advice is helpful and harmful. When you start getting distracted and can’t think through the game yourself because of constant coaching, its likely to just make you play worse.

As for your opponent getting coaching, who cares? Deal with it.

Hmm… this is a tough topic. I’ve definitely been on both sides of the fence on this. Sometimes watching your friend’s match it gets really hype and you see something really obvious and you shout out like ULTRA!!! or SRK!! or BLOCK!! because you want to help out your friend. I seriously don’t think this is the appropriate time to discuss strategy though because your probably doing a lot more damage then helping.
A) you just gave away a possible bait or strategy to the opponent
B) you probably just distracted your friend playing his match

Now if you do so feel the need to give advice to someone I always try to wait till either the round is over or the match is over and just wisper like 2 or 3 words in their ear. This way you don’t give anything away and it give them a couple seconds to process what you just told them and then they can **CHOOSE **to apply it or not. You have to realize your not actually playing the match and something might look easy to just do because your watching, but its a completely different world when your in the drivers seat.

I kinda dig the coaching as I mentioned above. Especially when you go out of state. You kinda feel like more of a team in that scenario and since your probably both from the same place and taveled there together you want to see one of you place well. Everything else I would just say is annoying lol especially when they keep doing it over and over and over.

Now for other players coaching against you… sure it kinda sucks. When you have the match in the bag then they get help and now you have to work twice as hard, but there isn’t much you can do about it. Every sport allows it so why shouldn’t tournaments. I kinda feel like getting the help is also why people level up so fast that go to tournaments.

no, shut the fuck up when im playing…

^That.
I remember first west coast warzone some dude was telling a blarog player ‘ok watch out now, he has two stocks’ ‘ok now, he has an ultra’ fucking stupid. I saw that same person doing it at so cal regionals and he got first place.

Trying to enforce this is more trouble then its worth. I don’t see any problem with it unless it is disrupting the match.

I think coaching is mad fucking lame. But all the top players do it. Hard to strictly enfore a “no coaching” rule too which is probably why no one has tried/cares to stop it.

I don’t like it when you see a player go to the char select screen just to buy time while they confer with a friend. Or when you see like 3 top players huddled together after one of their buddies loses to an underdog, while the other player sits there thinking “let’s go already.”

But quick words of advice are OK, IMO. Who wouldn’t turn to a friend after a disappointing round, if they thought they could offer advice? The player still has to execute, and that’s what counts.

They allow coaching in Japan? Or do they just not need them?

ha, I kinda had suspected that was the case but… :sweat:

In team tournaments I think it’s “ok”. In singles tournaments, usually you wouldn’t say anything.

This is from my experience. If there’s a set in stone rule about it, lemme know please, lol.

I think coaching is fine as long as the player wants it. If they don’t match between/mid-match advice, then don’t give it to them.

Likewise, I see nothing wrong with my opponent getting coaching.

Theres only a certain amount of difference “coaching” can make anyway. What makes the biggest difference is letting someone know that something can be punished.

I really can’t see anything wrong with this. The player who is playing still has to decide to follow the advice, and perform the action.

No coaching during money matches or sets; everything else is cool IMO

not even worth having an opinion on unless you can come up with some concrete way of enforcing a rule on it

Unless tournaments start enforcing the no coaching rule then its fair game.

Coaching used to be banned in old school tournies (…in Tekken at least). I dunno wtf happened over the past few years. Now people got a fucking brain trust around them.

Shit I remember when button configuration was banned. Those were the days…