Avatar: The Legend of Korra - Book 4

I don’t think the cartoons of that era were even made with kids in mind. Weren’t they shown before movies in the day? I believe, It was only later that they started to be shown in time slots aimed at kids. Heck I think even the Flintstones and (probably) the Jetsons originally had sitcom time slots.

:rofl: and not even SwBeta noticed!

I wouldn’t be surprised if Asami became a villain similar to Anakin Skywalker or Walter White, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. If things don’t workout with her new business partner it’s possible not to mention an emotionally compelling angle for Asami in her desperation to seek financial aid from a shady character which would e the catalyst for her moral decay and set off a chain of events that would lead to her to becoming exactly like her father.

This is all obviously speculation, but it’s one plausible avenue the writers could steer her character towards which I would be satisfied to see.

You have a limited understanding of the concept and malleability of the superhero trope if you think being physically unstoppable=predictable, one dimensional story. The few times he isn’t using both hands to jack off Superman @goodm0urning has over the years posted that most Superman comics are ass because they treat him like a conventional superhero rather than exploit the unique potential a character in his position has.

You’re looking at Aang the way most writers have looked at Supes, like this:

This dog won’t hunt. Look at The Dark Knight, IMO the most brilliant and compelling scene in that film was when batboy was interrogating the joker because it highlighted that for all his strength bats was powerless against the joker at the time, brains beat brawn. I feel the same concept could have been applied to Aang as an adult, where he is forced to deal with villains and problems that can’t simply be dealt with by pure bending prowess.

Heroes like the flash and superman shouldn’t even have problems tbh. they could bee like “a- fix the problem-choo” just like that.

Besides avatar is more about Taoism and balance than it is about strong benders. the problems should always be more complicated that beat bad guy, good happen again.

The problem is that, then it goes to two more things.

Aang’s code of not killing, and a villain abusing politics.

Aang had the full backing of the entire world at large. No one is going to screw him on politics as he’d be the one getting the benefit of the doubt. This isn’t like Superman where the world will always be uneasy with trusting him due to his extreme power and not being human, on top of the times he gets flipped for whatever reason. The Avatar is a force of nature that has been accepted into the culture of the world. His best friend was the Fire Lord, he’s tight with the Earth King and he’s cool with the Water Tribes. Hell, look at Sozin and Roku. Sozin couldn’t even do a direct power play towards world domination without Roku being dead first. That’s the backing he has.

So it goes to the No Killing Code ala Supes and Batman. Okay, that means the only relevant villains had to be Non-Benders. Why? Because due to Energybending he can shut down ANY Bending threat. But the problem with Non-Benders is that they’re much easier to imprison unlike benders.

So guess what? With all of the above noticed, that leaves a grand total of one story arc that would provide tension and has the possibility of being done. THE EQUALIST STORYARC. That’s it. That’s literally the only way Aang would have any tension. And even THEN, that would fall short because his damn Brother-in-Law and one of his three sons are Non-Benders. Unless you make Bumi and Sokka carry the Idiot Ball and join such a movement, it’d be hard for Non-Benders to call out Aang over that.

So what else? What else can be done?

For all of those who hate Korra and want the return of Aang, please feel free to post an entire story arc that Aang couldn’t deal with in the span of 3 episodes without holding the Idiot Ball. Because Politic plays will fail. No Killing Code will fail. And the whole threatening his family would fail due to his family’s power levels. Superman had issues because for all his power, he wanted to work to the letter of the law and not try and force his will to avoid backlash. The Avatar however does not have such an issue. Especially one with such a high approval rating as Aang after the war.

Who are you addressing? It kind of sounds like you skimmed my post and had a seizure while posting. All avatars are superheroes by definition, and saying they shouldn’t have problems highlights your misconception of what makes the trope so primal and compelling in the first place, although you are correct that both Avatar shows are about the forces of nature at work in conjunction with one another rather than the personification of their use in combat.

Alright, if I’m having a misconception then please educate me. I’m fine with looking stupid if a person posts a great example of why I’m wrong.

And no, the Dark Knight won’t work in this particular instance unless you want to make an Avatar version of the exact same scenario.

The superhero code of not (directly) killing is an inherently compelling angle, because it succinctly puts the hero’s morals to the test, and that’s really the heart of all great drama: Conflict and indecision!

You have a good point about the avatar not being an outsider as an alien like Supes is, but I disagree that the equalist angle is the only compelling one in an adult Aang series, never underestimate the power of human imagination, just because you and I can’t think of the angles that doesn’t mean they don’t exist. Maybe Aang becomes too good of an avatar and everyone becomes too dependent on him and eventually bending is abandoned as useless because everyone has Aang to protect them and that somehow throws the spiritual world and bending forces out of harmony and weakens Aang when some new villian arises. Maybe some Ozai loyalists father a generation of kids that are taught to be fearful of Aang’s power and Aang has to deal with getting them to trust him, that’s a situation where his power as a bender would be 100% useless and a detriment to his goal. Maybe Aang’s power somehow extends his maturity to use that power and somehow he becomes a little tainted and eventually the first corrupt avatar using his power to create a utopian, peaceful dictatorship across the world. Maybe during peacetime there is some civil war between the nations and Aang has to learn that even in peacetime humans are prone to causing conflict with one another sometimes and that life isn’t perfect, and that there will always be problems to fix. Maybe Aang has to save two people at the same time and has to choose one, and then has to live with the guilt of his choice.

I thought of all this shit as I was typing just now so even if you think they are bad ideas for an adult Aang series, my point still stands that there is always more material to mine and to say there was only one direction they could go with the story is false.

My bad, that post was aimed at negative not you because when I typed my last post his was the last one, yours wasn’t showing yet :lol:

You’re right when you say there’s never just one direction to go.

But since people are also bitching about any little thing that paints Aang as anything less than the perfect being, it’s hard to run with things like the “corruption” angle.

As for your other ideas. The Ozai Loyalists could be a problem however that’s more of a problem for Zuko to solve than Aang. It’s a Fire Nation problem at its heart. Aang could help out but really it’s on Zuko to avoid getting a coup against him.

Aang having to make a choice and feel the guilt of a lost life? Aang already felt directly responsible for the death of his entire people due to his choice to run away. His choices also have killed him once, let the Earth Kingdom fall and got a lot of his friends captured during the Day of Black Sun. While something like your choice would be more direct, it’d still be going to the well one too many times.

Aang being too good an Avatar so that everyone depends on him? The Avatar is almighty but isn’t a god. He can’t solve all issues at once, and honestly won’t try to. Other than solving the problems that he happens to run into in his life or travels, he’ll only directly get involved in more Macro and World-centric issues.

This is what I’m saying. Sure, they COULD do more Aang stories if they really wanted, but what purpose would it serve? Either it would just be back to same old or they have to mess with characterization too much to be able to bring a fresh story. It also becomes a lot harder because Aang being the force of nature he is, is nigh impossible to beat. On that alone it limits what you can do creatively as a writer. It’s why Aang didn’t get full control of the Avatar State until the final battle. There’s only so much they can do.

At most, they probably should’ve animated the Search comic. But even then, that’s less about the story of Aang and much more about Zuko and his familly. And I doubt that they could stretch the Search for 13 episodes.

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Backgrounds and draw distances are still lackluster unfortunately.

Aang could have adventures about restoring the world post-war time that could still be entertaining and fun.

Also I don’t hate korra but I just don’t think she’s a interesting enough character to carry a show. Couple this with a dull plot and you get a uninteresting character and story…plus she’s a bitch soooo…

Right now the plot is underwhelming.

This civil war conflict between the Northern and Southern tribes is something Korra and her family can have resolved in the next episode. The Aang gang dealt with similar issues in 1-2 episodes max.

The Equalists conflict could have been extended to an additional book but iirc the team only had enough time to tell Korra’s story in one book until they were informed that they could do more. (Someone here probably has a clearer explanation on that…)

Hopefully they get right back into telling more about the spirits, since that is the title of the book lol.

When will Varrick become Iron Man?

jeezus the hate train in here…just quit the show.

I’ll explain it.

Korra was originally just going to be a one season mini series.

Half way through the season, they get told that now they just got extended for another 39 episodes. In other words, too late to really change everything up and make it so the Equalists are elongated other than with an Author’s Saving Throw that honestly wouldn’t be worth it.

Anyway people shouldn’t worry. Two episodes this season will have very little to no Korra involvement at all.

Still don’t know why the network wouldn’t want a full series from the start…the fuck is wrong with the corporate heads these days.

“Sir we want to bring back this insanely popular animated series that was both a commercial and critical hit.”

“Oh ok sure…but better make it a mini series instead cause I doubt people will care about it anymore .”

Blame M.Night Shymalan I guess.

Avatar was so outstanding that Nick didn’t want to risk it’s quality if Korra fell short of expectations. But seeing as it somewhat exceeded those expectations, naturally Nick wanted to cash in for 3 more runs.

First time I’ve ever heard of Nick actually caring about Quality Control.

I can see them making the exception for this series as it made it’s name on quality control. As seen by the hate train on this thread, dudes will turn on the drop of a hat over the dumbest shit.