Mary Ryan, Kevin Ryan. I think so.
Im just laughing my ass off at the remarks about Yun and Chun not being effortless. Here ill run down every God players winning game, with Chun…turtle in corner, whiff to bulid meter, spam pokes, Kara Throw, Low forward to super and repeat. With Yun, whiff to bulid meter and activate SA3…build meter.
Anyways I just dont want KOFXI to turn into KOFO3, im hoping this game will bring people into the SNK scene but i dont see it happening if the game is just going to turn into anohter MVC2 with serious tier issues.
:bluu: Interesting. Kevin would’ve had escalation in MOTW2.
effortless:
adjective
requiring or involving no effort; displaying no signs of effort; easy
You’re generalizing horribly, and your definition of “effortless” is pretty fucked up. Regardless of who the character is, you have to LEARN the character and their matchups to be successful at higher levels, and that requires effort. Beating other players who know the matchup and their character at higher levels, regardless of who they’re playing, also requires effort.
I thought Kevin was “Rian”. Does that make a difference?
I think its a mistranslation. I could be wrong.
Nagato/Pein/Deidara is lame. 
you’re talking like if anyone picked up Yun or Chun thats a free win… LOL no.
i smash on scrub to intermediate chun and yuns all the time with low tier chars… now when its someone that knows the game then i need to step it up… and its still not a free win…
I can 99.99% guarantee that won’t be in the game. SNK will fix shit, they just create new shit in the process.
I’d be interested in char distributions for 3s now between the first year it was played, and the last year. Honestly though- I’d say the reverse is true. The longer a game is out, the more people learn what’s truly abuseable- people give up on their “no-hopers”. Sometimes a situation like 98 Chizuru will develop, but it’s rare.
That said, there may be a point in what you are saying. It is too early to discount XI, but that distribution is a troubling sign.
Also who says 98 UM won’t be practically a new game? I’m not into rejecting newer games, I accept NGBC despite its flaws. I put XI over 2k2, just inferior to 98.
It’s still a worthy legitimate game, and the 3rd best game put out by SNKP so far.
Wow discussion over Kula and Gato eh? LOL.
Oh well…gotta go I’ll be in Mexico tomorrow!
-Dark Geese
What’s all this talk about G:MotW2 and shit?
I haven’t been here in a while so I’m kinda outta’ the loop.
Also, everyone needs to stfu about tiers and effortlessness.
People took the time, patience and dedication to learn these characters and figure out WHAT and WHY they are as good as they are.
Not to mention top players spend HOURS practicing/learning new things before tournaments. Hell, even during tournaments.
I know EVERY tournament I went to, no matter the game I ALWAYS learned something new about the characters I played, and others I didn’t.
So, people DO put effort into it. It’s just we’ve done said combo so much, it SEEMS effortless to us now. But we still put effort into it. Cause you have to pull off said combo/trap/infinite in COUNTLESS different match ups and scenarios. So, you ALWAYS have to think and put effort into your game. No matter what.
Also, Geese, you going to that OK tourney on Nov17th?
-SH
Oh, no one said the game was bad. At least, I don’t think so. I really like XI a lot, especially since I was really intrigued by the new direction taken in 2003 and how it could be improved. I’m honestly not sure whether I like XI or 98 better!
No, no, no; it’s Kevin Rian. SNK has yet to confirm that they there anything BUT acquaitences.
Plus Kevin is a beast in Garou, it shivers me to wonder how nerfed he might feel like in any other game.
Well look I dont want to beat a dead horse here, but all i was saying was that its very possible for people to be turned away from KOFXI because of Gato and Kula. I mean can anyone honestly show me a clip at high tourny levels where a gato or kula user dont dominate…no i dont think so. Oh and low foward to super with chun in 3s is about as effortless as u can get, its retarded how poweful a single combo can be.
Well in Mexico I saw Taekua win KOFXI wiht Kim, Oswald, Duo Lon (L), so Gato and Kula arent necessarily needed.
SH- Yes I’ll be at that tournament in November.
Shweet. I’ll finally meet the infamous Dark Geese.
Teach me some KOFXI :mad:
and Geese, do you know (yet) if anyone is bringing stuff to record the tourney?
-SH
if im not mistaken vegar used kyo and ryo in the finals vs taekua, i can’t remember what his team was, but if i see him online ill let you know.
Yeah thats right…in the Official KOFXI tourney Vegar used Kyo, Ryo,Beni(L) and in my tourney Taekua won with Kim, Oswald, Duo Lon (L).
SH- Yeah no problem because my KOFXI game has gotte hella sharp as of late and probably will get even sharper in Mexico today!!!
See you all later/this Tuesday, got a plane to catch to El Paso/Mexico!!!
-Dark Geese
It’s also possible he massively outskilled the rest of the participants. Yeah, I know it’s a chicken or egg argument- did the characters win, or did the person?
In the end it is what works for you- there’s a reason I use Mai a lot in 98 despite her fairly low tier ranking, she does well for me against Goros and O-yashs so she’s useful. Doesn’t get embarassed vs Ioris usually unless I get caught.
Yeah, you never lose 50% hp from one combo in XI. :rolleyes:
By the way Geese.
I’m going to run Kula/Ash Crimson/Iori.
-SH