guns where designed to kill things. What you kill is up to you, and for the most part pepole overwhelmingly choose to do the right thing.
Japan and England/UK don’t say otherwise, since they never really had a history of massacres. UK STILL has the occassional gun massacre, as I’ve shown.
Again, your argument is focused solely on stopping mass killings. You continue to focus on the attacks that are the minority.
And again, you cannot feasibly introduce bans without also dealing with the weapons in existence.
And AGAIN, even if you DID manage to get rid of all the firearms and ammo in the states, the society itself is still fucked up enough that they’ll resort to other, more effective methods such as arson and bombings.
Why doesn’t every one have body armors? Those are way more important to me than average pistols because I want to avoid getting shot more than I want to shoot back.
If america loses it’s second Amendment all of you guys in other countries are FUCKED.
If the government goes tyrannical your all as good as dead. America has to keep its
Guys guys guys, Huffington Post has solved the puzzle! I repeat, Huffington Post has solved the puzzle!
The absolute undeniable blame of this shooting is COMPLETELY 100% on
Spoiler
PATRIARCHY! :o :o :o
Did you guess it right, my friend?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/james-marshall-crotty/san-bernardino-shooters-c_b_8729896.html
we should have replaced the wtf and off topic buttons with zatalcon and xvideos
The Daily Show did a great piece last night about how the media is out of control when they went into the house of where these two lived and showed pictures of relatives that had nothing to do with the attack on live television. I guess you have to get those ratings somehow…
Free speech of the news is one thing…I absolutely LOATHE that the news tries to force opinion on us, rather than report the news. But breaking into places and paparazzi type shit has gotta start being punished more. Being in the press doesn’t let you break laws and bribe your way into crime scenes.
Shit like this is what I am talking about when I talk about horseshit news corporations trying to force opinion on the public:
telling white trash and uneducated southern bumpkins with guns that they are ‘fighting for their survival’ is fucking outright careless and dangerous.
This is the last…
It doesn’t matter what you decide to kill, guns are still for killing. Take that purpose away and you just got a useless tool.
Japan has a history of massacres, research on the Tokugawa shogunate. Yes you’ve shown the “occasional” gun massacre’s in the UK, it still doesn’t happen as much as in the USA.
i’m not arguing that mass killings will fully come to an end if guns are band, it’s just possible to decrease… if I’m wrong about it then we will bring it back. It’s so simple. Why the fuck are you guys going all exaggerated with this, it’s like taking away guns is violating a huge part of your lives. And LOL about this being attacks on the minority… please go to fucking camden past 7pm and just report back as to how many times you took cover because of random gun shots going off. Every single city that is labeled as the most dangerous has a high amount of gun owners and gun activity, that is fact you idiots can hit the disagree button.
Yes, we know those things are possible but take a look at countries like Japan. Guns are banned there and they are arguably fucked up as Americans are having the highest suicide/depression rates in Asia but you don’t see/hear this shit almost every 3 months? And the reason why is because their is no easy access to weapons that kill numbers of people in a minute. I don’t see why all your panties are in a twist for just trying this out, it’s just a simple thing… lets see if this makes a good impact and if not then we bring guns back. You will still live your lives like you normally do.
Oh Soviet, please just quit your bitch shit. I don’t build my opinions on what are the more popular views in SRK, unlike you who switches opinions just to be part of “the team”. You live in Canada, for you to give a damn about what laws are being debated in the states is laughable so it just makes it certain that your stance is just anywhere where you can get jizzed on.
The Tokugawa Shogunate? What is this, the 17th century? You know damn well we’re referring to modern history, here.
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Nor did it ever. What’s your point?
Because:
a) it’s not fucking “simple” to disarm the United States.
b) history has shown disarmament to have next to no effect on overall crime. Citation Australia, where overall crime increased for a decade after gun bans, and murder rate basically didn’t change.
c) the idea of combatting a minority of crime at the expense of all others, and indeed at the risk of INCREASING overall crime, is retarded,
and d) if you dealt with gang culture/black violence, crime in the US would literally drop by half, while leaving the majority of the country unpunished.
Most murder in the usa is gang related and they do have mental, geographical, and ideological issues that make that happen.
Murder happens, tools just change. I mean these people had explosives ready to go
ITT
Black people kill each other daily, we don’t really do much…
White people try to play catch up…
Let’s change the Constitution.
you misunderstand. The liberal left of America are the most hypocritical pieces of shit in this country. They pander to blacks, hispanics, and other minorities in an attempt to retain power and then fuck them over as bad as the right.
Police brutality exists primarily in liberal cities (Los Angeles, New York, Chicago, Seattle, etc)
Gentrification is a contstruct that only exists in liberal cities, the worst blacks or minorities get in conservative places is white flight
The left pretends to care about gun violence, but only gives a shit about it when whites and non inhabitants of slums are affected by it. They never talk about gang violence, or other minority violence because it doesn’t matter to them. Pretending to care garners more support from non minorities as the party that cares. At least the right has the decency to be honest about it’s fuckery
The shooting has been planned a year in advance.
3? Like there has been 3 in UK history, man UK only been rolling for 300 years, this is so occasional that it warrants a comparison say against a nation like the US where 1 person might get shot once every 10 years… fuck outta here kangaroo man.
Lol wth… what for?
Don’t worry. I’ll get a kickstarter going to save him.
Seems like you can’t even stay consistent in your own post. What’s special about being shot versus being burned alive, stabbed, etc? Do bullets magically send your soul to hell or something? Do they have magical powers that trap your soul for an eternity?
You keep harping on the line “We are trying to reduce the power or the ease of it” when it’s pretty clear from every example I listed that mass murders still happen in countries with gun bans, they still result in large body counts (in some cases far exceeding anything we’ve had in the US in the last 15 years), and if you actually look at it they still happen at roughly the same rate they happened prior to the ban. Actually if you look at Australia you can even make a different case
Their worst year in the last 30 was actually in 2009 where 145 people died due to intentionally set fires in two separate incidents.
Yup and so basically what you are saying is your “modern living standard” is so important that you can justify people dying. You couldn’t be inconvenienced to have to take public transportation or couldn’t handle going 30 MPH instead of 60MPH. I mean getting home in 5 minutes instead of 10 is clearly more important that people’s lives. It’s not like there were 32,719 deaths in 2014 due to auto accidents compared to the 452 that died in mass shootings.
Funny how the moral grand standing goes away the minute you actually have to give up something.
Ah cherry picking, gotta love it. If you want to actually be serious, guns are illegal in Mexico and they have a murder rate that far exceeds anything in the US. It takes the US over 4 years to equal the death rate that is seen on a yearly basis in Mexico.
Anyone who actually knows how to do statistics can easily do studies like this
or this
http://www.objectobot.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/us_rate.jpg
and find that in both the US and internationally there is no statistical correlation between the number of guns available and the murder rate. That’s because for every state that has high gun ownership and high murder there is one with high gun ownership and low murder rate. Likewise there is for every low gun ownership and low murder rate state there is also one that is low gun ownership and high murder rate.
There’s no statistical correlation and you can do what I have done and use many different measures of gun ownership (guns per capita, percentage of owners, total number of guns, etc.) and you won’t find a correlation to the murder rate. For contrast things that have a correlation to national and international murder rates: poverty rates, percentage of single mother household, average education level, unemployment, etc. The murder rate is effectively independent of gun concentration.
And just for the icing on the cake, the states with the lowest murder rate in the US includes states like Vermont, Idaho, Iowa, Utah, Oregon, South Dakota, Wyoming, New Hampshire, etc. these states are also in the top 20 in gun ownership.
But yea, fucking Americans. We must be stupid for not agreeing with you. It’s not like I’ve actually done research, read through scientific literature on the subject, and came to my own opinion. Just fucking Americans.
hoooooooooly shit @Zataldummy you just got handed a great big L
http://i.imgur.com/2ALg3pB.gif
There is no coming back from this one, kid. This one, you gotta just hang your head in shame like when your mother gave birth to you, and just walk into the sunset.
I too am curious what exactly he got the ban for. I’m assuming it’s a temp ban (as opposed to being jailed), for being an overly aggressive dummy and popping off to both Mr Wizard and Preppy.
This one happened recently in 2010
They’ve also had smaller shootings recently as well
Though actually when looking through incidents of mass murder in the UK, it looks like they’ve had a much bigger issue with bombings than shootings even historically. I mean holy crap I go down the list and like 8/10 of the mass murders are bombings.