Yes. You’re following assholes on Twitter.
Confusion? Check.
Misformation? Check.
Pure Stupidity? Check.
All the making for a Race/Reilgion thread.
I bet you wear fingerless gloves and a trillby
I dunno what a trillby is but I def rock those fingerless gloves. Goes well with my punk style of dressing and I can use my damn smart phone.
Still can’t believe those shits haven’t evolved to where a gloved finger could use them.
Trillby is what many think is a Fedora.
13/11/2015 Never Baguette.
I’m wondering what the correct action the world needs to take, if there even is one. We have a lot of instability caused by fallen governments due to US intervention, which caused ISIS to become what it is now. Let’s say pretty much the U.N. (lol) all come together to send troops into Syria and other problem areas to wipe out ISIS and are successful in doing so… what then? It wouldn’t take very long for another extremist group to rise up in power due to lack of a strong, structured government in those areas.
Belgium caught more homegrown terrorists, suspected that is.
And even the authority on BBC is talking about the failed integration of arabs born in their country due to not being able to make it, identity flux, or the supposed anti sharia rhetoric (which was pushed for and led by a muslim). Ie “marginalization”
There is a problem that Europe needs to ask itself similar to what America had to do in the 80’s. The question is if they can deal with radicalization. The Americans had to answer to gang violence, but that was regulated to the respective minority community. The violence dealt by these outliers doesn’t stay within the community and is focused on the general population.
I do wonder if America didn’t have the tradition of putting minorities in place, that gang violence would have been more directed at police and whites in general like it is in Europe. One thing that strikes me odd, is that the establishment in America fully understood and feared retribution and or action against them by these nobodies. Hence you have the propaganda, and local government action against any misstep. But if this was an outcome of not being increadly shitty and violent against offenders, would this have been the norm on a much larger scale here in America.
I wonder how Europe is going to deal with this. It’s really all quite interesting.
There is a huge difference between immigration into America, and muslim immigrations. Mexicans aren’t coming to America, demanding Mexican laws. Islam comes into a country, then demands Sharia law, which is hilarious considering:
a) they fled their country because of what the shit led to
b) people who aren’t muslim sort of have a problem with being forced to live under Sharia law
I read an interesting comment last night about how a huge problem is that we can’t declare proper war. We wage wars with the fear of hitting women, children, etc. Doctors Without Borders tragedy is one thing, but for the most part, we lose our mind when the military has collateral damage. ISIS takes advantage of this, and just lives in the midst of women and children, as shields.
We’re going to have to seriously impose some serious sanctions, as a WORLD, on various muslim countries, to lock shit like this down, or we’re going to have to overcome our fear of collateral damage, and just win with a WAR, not a fight.
These people have no problems killing innocents. But we may have to get ugly in order to win something like this.
We can’t let EVERYBODY in Syria just move to Europe, or any other country. That’s completely unfair to people living there, and people who went through necessary immigration. We also can’t do nothing, and just throw money at this and hope it goes away.
The sad horrible truth, is that the solution to this problem isn’t going to be happy or humane, it may be downright ugly.
saddest video i seen was of a man crawling through the alley bleeding to death outside the concert i believe, Multiple people run by him and dont even stop to help him. he later on dies on the floor :’(
get shot tryna help a random strangah?
naw bruh…I am running
Always think about yourself first.
Well, France is now dropping bombs on Isis capital in Syria. Shit is going down.
France has one of the best airforces in the world, too. Ironically, ISIS teased their airforce when this attack went down.
France been WAITING to show off to the world.
The US is lucky that Mexicans are born into a country similar enough to the US where they don’t have to deal with this. The political culture is close enough to not foster this degree of seperation in values
But the similarity is; how do you deal with a subset of a minority group that is willing to go to such levels of violence to get what it perceives to be theirs? Both groups are minority populations, and are marginalized enough that there is a significant portion of the population that dedicates it’s time to study/address/complain about the issue. it’s close enough imo to postulate potential government solutions and compare the possiblity that these solutions would be similar to American policy today or past policy. Especially given the linearity of any solution any government can pass, due to them having to be as linear as possible to be efficient at any level. I’m also not trying to figure out why these people are radicalized, that’s not interesting at all for me at this point, but the government response is what I’m interested in.
From what I’ve read and seen, the difference here is that the Muslim group isn’t afraid, but rather, is more than willing to target government, police, and civilians. The gangs in America are scared shit less even attempt this, and usually never attack federal, state, and local authorities. Only time I can thing that they would dare this is when they have significant backing resources, and functional organization. But even then they won’t fuck with authorities due to the change in tone authority had when it started cracking down on corruption and crime in general.
Because of that, authorities can keep the violence relatively contained within the community borders. My dad, and a few professors that I had tell stories of being pulled over in white communities and outright threatened to leave the neighborhood. Now in days, you wouldn’t see a minority being pulled over and told outright to get the fuck out and harassed with outright violence at that level. But the incidence of crime in predominantly uppity neighborhoods is higher than when you had outright racist counter measures to filter all of it out. (Not saying uppity neighboorhoods didn’t experience white on white crime, but the combined crime rates would make it higher) And I will also argue that this was attributed due to the authorities having the legal precedence to filter people out with extreme prejudice.
As much as we should ignore that only a small group of assholes are doing this, you cannot ignore that the whole of said minority is susceptible to radicalization. I’ve known well of Mexican kids that fall for that shit and start doing dumb gang shit. Tupac is a good example of somebody being well off enough, but stupid enough to fall for that shit, and died as a result of that. The same will be true of Muslims of Europe, they are susceptible of radicalization at any level. The government at one point will realize this, and it will ask itself similar questions, and any measure passed to prevent this type of event again. Will have to have the rationalization that any Muslim has the potential to be radicalized for whatever reason. After all, any law and or policy passed to address an issue has to assume the potential that anybody is suspect. Otherwise there’s be no need for laws.
There were three brothers involved in the attacks, authorities are hunting down the last one now (the other two died).
Sadly, this is a problem that muslims should be actively trying to solve. You have too many muslims that are fine with just saying “oh but thats other muslims” or fleeing their home rather than staying and actually solving the problem.
Like you can hate on Israel all you want, but when you have Hamas setting up rockets that target the Jews, and local Palestinians just ignore it or look the other way and encourage others to do the same, it’s hard to see them as being innocent anymore from my perspective. I look at this current situation the same way. Sooner or later, non muslim’s are going to be FORCED to deal with this, and with the refugee situation (hundreds of thousands or even MILLIONS of people fleeing, instead of dealing with the situation at all), and it isn’t going to be pretty.
Plot twist… Homegrown isis in raqqa made at American, German and English immigrant fighter cause, “they get treated better, get the best cars”
Wypipo stay winnin bwahahahaha
*actually just read the article, it is anti Isis folks complaining… Nevermind, fuck Twitter tweets
I get the feeling collateral damage either isn’t going to get reported, or will get somewhat ignored. I heard they sent in a squad of TEN fucking jets to just fuck em up. ISIS gonna get bombed until they’re forced back into caves.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLHtxRzu6KQ
Canada’s PM keeping his election promise of pulling out of Syria, even after these events.