Assault on Paris - Nov 13

[PVL_93_RU]

We don’t know why ISIS attacked so far just that they claimed responsibility, they also stated they will attack Russia soon.

Probably gonna be another Subway explosion, usually that’s the easiest target for the terrorists, as proven several times in the recent years

[Raz0r]

They’ve identified one of the gunmen from Friday. His name was Ismaël Omar Mostefaï. Turns out he’s a Parisian. A little more info on the attackers:

PARIS — The investigation into the Paris terrorist attacks unfurled across
Europe on Sunday as French authorities sought a suspected eighth assailant
who might have fled after taking part in the three­hour assault on Friday night
that killed at least 129 people.

A French official who was briefed on the investigation but was not
authorized to speak publicly said the authorities were looking for someone
from the Paris region who might have participated in the attacks. The
authorities had initially said there were eight attackers, but on Saturday night
said that only seven attackers had died — six by blowing themselves up and
one in a shootout with the police.

As President Obama and other leaders of the Group of 20 nations
gathered for a scheduled summit meeting in Antalya, Turkey, on the doorstep
of the Syrian crisis, France’s president, François Hollande, stayed behind in
Paris, his nation in mourning, as the investigation continued.
Early Sunday morning, three Kalashnikov rifles — the kind used in the
attacks — were found in a black Seat Leon in the eastern Paris suburb of
Montreuil. The vehicle had been used as a getaway car for the shooters at
restaurants in central Paris.

The Belgian authorities have detained seven men, one of whom one was
linked to a rented Volkswagen Polo that the three terrorists who killed 89
people at the Bataclan concert hall had used. On Sunday the authorities said
that two of the dead attackers had lived in the Brussels area.

In France, investigators were hunting for more information on one of the
gunmen at the concert hall, Ismaël Omar Mostefaï, 29, a French citizen who
had been living in Chartres, 60 miles southwest of Paris.

Reports from Serbia on Sunday said the authorities there had identified
the holder of a Syrian passport found near one of the attackers in Paris.
Responding to requests from French officials, Greece and Serbia confirmed
that the holder of the passport had passed through their countries last month
along with tens of thousands of migrants fleeing Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan.
The Serbian newspaper Blic published a photograph of a passport page
that identified its holder as Ahmad al­Mohammad, 25, a native of Idlib, Syria.
Serbian officials said he had been registered at the town of Presevo, on the
border with Macedonia, on Oct. 7 as part of the migrant flow. Greek officials
have confirmed that the same man passed through the island of Leros on Oct.
3.

It was not clear, however, if the passport was authentic; there is an active
black market for forged Syrian passports.

Fundamental questions remained: how the terrorists, who acted in three
synchronized teams, managed to pull off the deadliest terrorist attack in
Western Europe since 2004, and whether they received direction from Islamic
State leaders in Iraq and Syria, who until now had never taken responsibility
for such a large­scale attack in the West.

But the carefully coordinated attacks now appear increasingly likely to
have drawn from people from several nations and to have involved extensive
planning as well as sophisticated weapons.

Mr. Mostefaï was publicly identified in a Facebook post by the mayor of
Chartres, Jean­Pierre Gorges. Mr. Mostefaï was one of three hostage­takers at
the Bataclan, and who was identified based on a print from his severed finger.
Mr. Mostefaï was born in the town of Courcouronnes and grew up around
Chartres, where he lived until 2012. According to the Paris prosecutor,
François Molins, he was arrested in connection with a series of low­level
crimes from 2004 to 2010 and had been under surveillance since 2010, having
been listed in a French security services database of people who have fallen
under the influence of extremist Islamist beliefs. Six of his relatives have been
detained for questioning; on Sunday, other relatives told French television that
he had been estranged from them after a falling ­out.

In his Facebook post, Mayor Gorges of Chartres expressed despair and
frustration. “How many deaths will occur before our political leaders
understand and take action?” he asked, describing the “emotion,
incomprehension and anger” he felt at the deaths.
Mayor Gorges called for strong action, without asking questions first.
“Our leaders don’t need to prove they are legitimate: we have elected them so
they take responsibility of the executive power of the republic,” he wrote on
Facebook. “Their duty is to act effectively, and ultimately we don’t need to
know how.”

Mr. Mostefaï previously lived in a housing development just outside
Chartres. “He lived here with his parents,” said a neighbor, who spoke on the
condition of anonymity. “It was a normal family, just like everybody else.””
Mr. Mostefaï was the middle of five children born to an Algerian father
and a Portuguese mother, and he worked in a bakery. “He played with my
children,” the neighbor said. “He never spoke about religion. He was normal.
He had a joie de vivre. He laughed a lot.”

But then Mr. Mostefaï changed. “It was in 2010, that’s when he started to
become radicalized,” the neighbor said. “We don’t understand what
happened.”

On Sunday, Mr. Hollande met his predecessor and political rival, Nicolas
Sarkozy, at the Élysée Palace. Afterward, Mr. Sarkozy urged decisive action
against the Islamic State — a position Mr. Hollande has also taken.
“We need everybody in order to exterminate Daesh, and especially the
Russians,” Mr. Sarkozy told reporters, using an Arabic acronym for the Islamic
State.

Russia’s president, Vladimir V. Putin, is a steadfast ally of Syria’s
embattled president, Bashar al­Assad, and recently began an aerial bombing
campaign in Syria. The United States and France say the attacks have not been
aimed at the Islamic State, as Mr. Putin claims, but at other groups opposing
Mr. Assad.

Mr. Sarkozy, who has been known to be tough on immigrants during his
tenure as president, cautioned against linking the refugee crisis with the
terrorist attacks, but added: “We need, together, to rein in the wave of
migration ensuing from the Syrian situation.”

As the investigation proceeded, Mr. Obama told reporters in Turkey that
the “skies have been darkened by the horrific attacks” in Paris and pledged
that America would support France, its oldest ally. “We stand in solidarity with
them in hunting down the perpetrators of this crime and bringing them to
justice,” Mr. Obama said after meeting with Turkey’s president, Recep Tayyip
Erdogan, at the start of a 10­day trip that will also take him to the Philippines
and Malaysia.

At the same summit meeting, the president of the European Commission,
Jean­Claude Juncker, said there was no need for a complete review of the
bloc’s refugee policy in response to the terrorist attacks.

“Those who organized, who perpetrated the attacks are the very same
people who the refugees are fleeing and not the opposite,” Agence­France
Presse quoted Mr. Juncker as saying. “And so there is no need for an overall
review of the European policy on refugees.”

Pope Francis on Sunday deplored the terrorist attacks in Paris, which he
described as an inconceivable “barbarity” and an “unspeakable affront to
human dignity” that “leaves us shocked” and must be condemned.
“The path of violence and hatred does not solve the problems of
humanity, and using the name of God to justify this path is blasphemy,”
Francis told thousands of pilgrims gathered in St. Peter’s Square for his weekly
Angelus address.

“We wonder how the human heart can conceive and carry out such
horrific events, which have shaken not only France but the whole world,”
Francis said, before asking the faithful present to pray with him for the victims
of the attacks.

Security measures at St. Peter’s, already significant, were increased on
Sunday. The Italian government on Saturday said it would bolster surveillance
of potential terrorist targets.

[dab00g]

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So what i see is a venue with no security, no police patrol outside, and an exit route that leads only into an alley.

Basically if i was isis and wanted to kill a ton of people, a concert venue where there is lacking in security, with clear perimeters.

No way this happens in Los Angeles or anwhere in the us, japan, brazil or Canada

If this is paris on high alert already with two previous terrorist attacks, then no wonder.

Honestly, looks like they got inside so easy

[Don_Barracuda]

This is why I also think must be locals not migrants, this must have been planned weeks/months in advance.

So Gatwick Airport was evacuated today, a man from France was caught with a rifle, nobody hurt.

Ninja edit: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-34824886

[dab00g]

There’s been a strong conservative muslim presence in france for 15-20 years. Especially with the open borders. It’s been established in a lot of european countries. With England and France having big pockets of their muslim communities protesting and calling the locals heathens and infidels.

But the response is instead of anybody opening a line of democratic discussions. We get the racist rallying to get rid of all muslims.

So we got a pocket of shitty extremist racist and extremist jihadist rhetoric

Stateside it isn’t so much that. But we do have pockets of people who think the wAr on terror is a war on islam. That’s the sexy story being told.

[Xvideos]

Ironic… Sony got hacked multiple times and lost shit tons of money from it, so they upped their game with PS4 security… and now terrorists ended up taking advantage of that extra security because they might have used it to coordinate this attack. In a way, hacker teams helped ISIS. Poor Sony, the west is so gonna hype the ban wagon against them from this. ISIS seal of approval is the last thing they need.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2015/11/14/why-the-paris-isis-terrorists-used-ps4-to-plan-attacks/

[Javid]

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So what i see is a venue with no security, no police patrol outside, and an exit route that leads only into an alley.

Basically if i was isis and wanted to kill a ton of people, a concert venue where there is lacking in security, with clear perimeters.

No way this happens in Los Angeles or anwhere in the us, japan, brazil or Canada

If this is paris on high alert already with two previous terrorist attacks, then no wonder.

Honestly, looks like they got inside so easy

We don’t know what the security was like. I highly doubt anybody was thinking that we need heavily armed guards at a small concert just in case some guys with heavy weaponry show up…

[Plaid_Unicorn]

Yea I agree. Most concerts I’ve been to in the us have no armed security. The police are usually there funelling traffic and cars outside of the venue. Inside those guys aren’t armed.

[Zatalcon]

ok so no “reason” at all whatsoever? just random killing like most of these attacks?

got it…

The only people who knows the REAL answer to that is the United States themselves.

[ElderGOD]

ok so no “reason” at all whatsoever? just random killing like most of these attacks?

got it…

The only people who knows the REAL answer to that is the United States themselves.

So the US created ISIS to destabilize the Middle East and to increase its “defense” spending and push its world government.

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[PVL_93_RU]

ok so no “reason” at all whatsoever? just random killing like most of these attacks?

got it…

The only people who knows the REAL answer to that is the United States themselves.

So the US created ISIS to destabilize the Middle East and to increase its “defense” spending and push its world government.

No, the US did it to destabilize the Middle East and provoke a war in the region, calling themselves peacekeepers and basically invading the land, to seize control of possible future resource sources (read - Oil), or at least have an easy way in to neibourghood countries with such resources

[dab00g]

Yea I agree. Most concerts I’ve been to in the us have no armed security. The police are usually there funelling traffic and cars outside of the venue. Inside those guys aren’t armed.

Thing is during events there are usually police at the venue working outside.

With security looking at a perimeter when shady people lurk around the building they radio. But these guys came in guns a blazing.

Where were the police outside? Not running to action. Radio’ing for backup?

[SoVi3t]

Yea I agree. Most concerts I’ve been to in the us have no armed security. The police are usually there funelling traffic and cars outside of the venue. Inside those guys aren’t armed.

Thing is during events there are usually police at the venue working outside.

With security looking at a perimeter when shady people lurk around the building they radio. But these guys came in guns a blazing.

Where were the police outside? Not running to action. Radio’ing for backup?

I don’t think I’ve ever been to a show at a small club, and seen a cop inside or outside.

[dab00g]

Eh i guess.

But you’d think there’d be patrols around in higher frequency due to the frequency of these attacks.

The gunmen were mostly teenagers. Who were brainwashed and indoctrinated. Who were probably already feeling ostracized like those mass shooters we see on american tv. Except extremist welcomed then in and exploited their suicidal tendencies.

[Raz0r]

One of the guys was 29. Grown men, motherfucker.

[ElderGOD]

Grown men can be manipulated just as easily as children, just have to know how to trigger their interest.

[MechWarrior]

So he knew what he would be responsible for and actively chose to do it anyway. What’s your point?

[dab00g]

One of the guys was 29. Grown men, motherfucker.

Yeah and the virginia tech shooter was in his 30s

And so was that guy who shot at the college.

The tendencies of suicidal maniacs to take others down in a blaze of glory these people are easily manipulated

Isis should recruit from 4chan

[Pertho]

Apparently there’s a bunch of shit on twitter about random shootouts happening. Anybody know anything?

[dab00g]

I want to see them try an assault like this in texas.

Like where everybody carries.

Then see as biker gangs get applauded for their heroics gunning down crazed terrorist