Interesting thread, BB is the first FG I ever really got into and still my favorite by far. @OP, who would you say is the most difficult player you’ve faced through your tournament experiences? Has there ever been one guy who just bodies you every time?
dacidbro, do you have some advice on the bang vs arakune matchup? its the only matchup i feel i don’t know at all and i’m really confused in what i’m supposed to do. I think you said just rush him the fuck down when I asked before but are any specific actions i should take on reaction to arakune doing something?
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Srs question, what is being a top player all about? Is it a mindset or is there something more concrete that shows you’re a top player? Is the simple fact that i’m asking this testament that I’m not a top player? How do I know if I’m a top player or not? Is it possible to stop being a top player?
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^^ i’ll second this.
You could stop being a top player by not playing…
Simple reply, but:
Being a top player is about putting forth the effort to go to lots of tournaments and make a good showing. You don’t have to win, or come in second, or necessarily even make top 8 if we’re talking about a big tournament (I mean, do you really think that there are only 8 ‘top players’ in SSF4?) but just going to lots of tournaments and getting knocked out in your pool doesn’t cut it. Being a top player includes both the “practice and being good at the game side” and the “get out there, play and be part of the scene” side. If you stop doing either one, you stop being a top player.
Of course, the term is pretty ridiculous and subjective anyway, so I wonder why you’d ask a question like this unless you were planning to try to catch someone in a contradiction.
Very tough. I barely made it out of pools and immediately lost, and I didn’t even end up playing most of the people in top8.
Easily Spark. He’s monstrous, I can never figure out a good way to beat him in a fair matchup. I had a roughly even record against him in CS1, but even that went downhill as he continued to get better. I haven’t yet played him in CS2, but the Bang Haku matchup became more even, so…
At neutral, it’s really important not to get conditioned into eating some kind of 100% curse, so pay careful attention to things your opponent is doing to set up air grabs (easily recognizable super jump back clouds, for example) or fatal 2C’s (seemingly bad footsies or anything that forces you to dash poke).
On offense, use moves that abuse Ara’s terrible defensive options. Meaty d5A over his wakeup with good timing or meaty d6A can let you maintain pressure even if he backdashes, usually, because they recover so fast. Simultaneously they’re your best pressure starters, so use them often. They can really exploit his defensive flaws and force him to respect your pressure more than almost any character. After you make him respect your pressure, be willing to throw more mix options to make him want to disrespect, and alternate between constant frame traps/lows to catch backdashes or mashing and mix up to catch complacency.
Poison nail air dash will blow up his anti air, and he will have difficulties avoiding it if he’s already in the wrong spot.
you can link something like 6C jD to 5D if you need seals but don’t want to waste nails
I think the most important aspect of being a “top player” is to consistently notice your own flaws and to improve. Learning from your mistakes and developing as a player will eventually bring anyone into the realm of being a “top player”.
Serious question as well, Dacid what do you believe is the best way to nurture a scene, develop it or grow it, where I live we have numerous gamers in general but that crowd mostly plays SF4/MVC3. There are also some basement dwellers around who play BB on the regular in their homes, what would be the best way to get them out the house(I usually host CS2 bi-weekly at a venue) that or level them up. I post regularly on our FB group(which is where most everyone looks, as well as the event page noting that I’m setting up CS2)
Well, it takes a bit of knowledge of who you’re trying to reach, first. If you know what they like, even vaguely, you can connect to them. If you can throw some kind of gathering with incentive (Like free food or a tournament with free entry etc) with the right advertising to back it up (personal invitations or fliers in colleges etc), you might be able to get them to show up. After that, if you can make a strong first (or second) impression, and get people on board with you on your plans for the future of the scene, you have a foundation to begin. It’s pretty hard though, in general… if you can pull it off it only gets easier afterwards.
hey cool 
so I’ve had the game for a while now but I’ve hardly played it. I really want to play but it just seems like I can’t get a decent hold on the game.
I want to play as Valk but I really don’t know what I’m doing. I looked up some of the combos on Dustloop but some of them seem out of date, and are hard to do without an accompanying video. I like Rachel too but she looks really hard to use.
Are there any decently written guides out there that show you the ropes of each character and how to play them?
This game is really really hard to understand, at first. For video references, I would recommend checking jourdal’s youtube account (http://www.youtube.com/user/jourdal?feature=chclk)for most of the highest level Japanese videos and looking til you find a strong (over 200 PSR) valkenhayn player, then talking to people on dustloop in the valkenhayn boards to understand what exactly they’re doing. You have an added disadvantage because Valkenhayn himself isn’t particularly easy as a first character.
There was intent to have a community produced video for each character at one point, but I don’t really know what’s become of that project. =/ And sadly the only Valkenhayn video tutorial I can find is what I’d call “intermediate” stuff rather than fundamentals (like how the heck to move around as the crazy guy).
I’m guessing your best bet is to ask around on in the Dustloop Valk forum to see how they’d suggest you get started. He’s not an easy one to make the jump to BB on though.
Also I know the Valkenhayn mod, he’s a talkative guy and willing to help. Contact “OrionXElite” for good 1 on 1.
You can tell him 1000dollasocks sent you, he’ll get a kick out of it.
Hey Dacidbro, I know you! Saw some of your matches at ReveLAtions and EVO 2011. You’re good, man!
I have to ask, what’s your opinion of the new BBCS Extend they’re coming out with? I haven’t played the game competitively for that long (just got it last month) and I think it really sucks that they’re coming out with crazy updates every few months. One thing I would be thankful for is some major nerfing of Makoto & Noel so people dont just spam with them or use a single BnB throughout the entire match. What’s your take on it?
I think it’s great they’re releasing large and primarily free or cheap updates so often. Since their game is not yet perfectly balanced and they realize it, they want to continue to compress the tier list for a really solid overall game where all of their characters are well integrated. I don’t know if there’s much more that could be asked for, really, from a game developer. Sure the combos can take a bit to re-learn, but the most difficult parts of fighting games to learn stay with you. Footsies and mix up and etc.
What do you think Tager needs in order to be better than “mostly good”?