Sakura is good, kind sir. Sabre showed what she can do. Granted, she definitely missed some of her Alpha/CvS2 stuff, but most matches are winnable. Seems to me you just need to be a combo machine, and know her movelist intimately.
She’s just that much better in games with V-ism/A-groove, is all. :lol:
dont worry i’ve won 2 matches out of about 40.
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Wrong, If you are a truely good player, you can perform extremely well on a pad, yes an arcade stick is more accurate, and it will make you perform better(once you are used to using it, as I’m sure you know most pad players need time to adjust to the stick) , but that does not mean you are a better player just because you forked out one hundred and eighty euros to get yourself an arcade stick. Not at all and that is bullshit- The Good players got knocked out cos they had to use a pad? Well I can take sympathy in the fact that they had to use a control method they were not used to, when I play SF at my friends on his playstation as opposed to my xbox, my game goes down, for about one round, (the only thing that puts me off is the thumbstick, I use dpad, and the dpad on the ps is weird so I use the thumb on that) but I can still do all the same links, all the same cancels, ultra set ups just fine, it’s still the same game no matter what controller you are using, it still plays the same way, it feels different yeah? but it’s still the same game. Fundamentals will live on, controller or stick.
So what, you’re telling us is? if you’re at a tournament right? and yer sitting there waiting for you’re next game and you see two guys in front of you sitting down for a game, and one pulls out his wicked Tournament edition stick and the other pulls out his smackin 360 pad, YOU think- the guy with the stick deserves to win JUST BECAUSE he spent 180 euros to prove to YOU, that he’s more serious about a game? He’s automatically more serious than the guy with the pad, who you don’t know, for all you know, the game with the pad spends 5 hours a day, in training with auto block on, perfecting all the games hardest links, cancels setups, resets whatever, getting it down perfect so even when that tourney pressure kicks in the next day, he won’t fuck them up. That right there, is bullshit because of the gamestops tourneys “actual GOOD players” were so good, it wouldn’t matter shit, whether or not they had a pad or stick, or a toothbrush in their ass, and dont say somethin like “oh typical pad user” because I know how much of a difference the stick does make, I plan to get one once I have the money spare, but I need to use it on other things right now but if anyone seriously thinks, skill level is that seriously affected by the controller you are using, that it should decide who wins the game (hey, which one of these is using the stick? “that guy” “okay, he wins, next!”) then you obviously don’t know what you are talking about, hell, a pad didn’t stop Justin Wong setting the world record of 300 wins to nothing at E3, now did it?
On Topic: The best advice I can give to you, is first of all, find out what sakuras best normals are, and get comfortable using them, I believe someone mentioned MP in the air? (i don’t really know sakura I never play her). After that, practise simple ways to punish, simple little combos, even if its just like CR. Heavy punch> Shoryuken. Then start moving on to bigger things, like links, and bigger combos, best way to get these down is to read the forums, find out some good ones, if theres combos you know you can’t do, just simplify them, then go to training, infinite SC and RG whatever, and practise your ass off on them, then put auto block on, and get those moves down, so that you know when you go to do them in a match, you know time it wrong, or do it too slow, or screw up and then have some dumbass ken, EX shoryuken your ass out of 20% of your health bar (ouch).
Then you wanna get to know where you have frame advantage ya da ya da, its sort of obvious after you play enough- example, you have to know, when you come into those situations where you’re jabbing someone, trying to do a link, or a set up for a cancel, or move or whatever, you have to know, if you haven’t got a link 100% down let’s take Abel’s Cr. light kick, Cr. Light punch X2, standing light kick. Now this is a pretty easy one, you can mash the first three steps pretty much, but the last light kick is a link (not a very hard one, but still), if you know, that you do not have that link down 100%, then maybe instead of going for that light kick, you should block, because most scrubby players (with their popular choice of ryu.sagat or ken) will be mashing out a shoryuken when you’re jabbing away at them, worse if its ken, with his EX Shoryuken, because that’ll hurt like a bitch, so you gotta know, when and where, you’re giving the opponent, those gaps where they can get a move in if you’re execution isn’t perfect on certain combos, so sometimes, its better to bait out they’re moves, E.G. do two jabs and then just block, if they shoryuken you know, they’re one of those typies that mash attacks when they’re gettin hit, and then you can use this to you’re advantage until they learn (which most scrubs don’t that’s why they’re scrubs).
Lastly and firstly-- Trials, these things are pains in the asses, and whats funny is, sometimes they’re things you do in trials that you have alot of trouble with, but in an actual game, where there are no words you are hoping to glow red on screen, it’s easy to do them, however, trials are one of your greatest assests, do em over and over, bust your balls doing that hard trial you think you’ll (“never ever do”) until you drive yourself insane and do it, because once you do it once, you can do it again, it might take another couple of goes to do that one again, but do the trials enough, and sneakily it will improve your exectution (no matter who’s trials you’re doing, I reccomend abels fifth hard trial if you really wanna get good at links) but yeah, also some of the trials have really neat combos so check that out >.>
Hope this helps, if you want we can play on live sometime, I ain’t no expert but I’m pretty confident that I know fundamentals well especially when it comes to links.
Also forgive meh, for ze wall of text.
Lol. Forgiven.
But yeah, trails are a life raft. Repeat these everyday and you’ll get way better, whether you’re a pad warrior like me, or a stick warrior.
Well, yeah.
If you spend money on something you tend to be more invested in it (by definition).
That’s not necessarily true, but it would be a reasonable assumption to make.
Thats true yeah, I don mean to argue against that, but like I said it doesn’t mean you should be the winner just cos you do…
I have two sticks (Hori EX 2 and Madcatz Fight Stick (SE)) and three pads (two regular 360 and Madcatz Fight Pad) and between those 5 controllers not one is actually effective at playing SF4 
Don’t really need to explain why 360 pads suck 
Fight Pad doesn’t like diagonals. HEX2 doesn’t like multi-button inputs so Super instead of Ultra a fair bit. Finally SE stick’s stick part is a bit dodgy and MP button is somewhat screwed
Look, you are obviously new to fighting games and the fighting game scene. You have a whole lot to learn, and I’m just going to leave it at that.
Blue, you know what you gotta do. I don’t. I just suck. But I’m sure you’ll make the right decision if you want to drop Sakura. I was considering dropping her for Dan actually.
lol yeah, but that’s a whole different story.
I don’t think she is a bad character, but she is extremely boring and one dimensional to play with IMO without the rewards of other boring good characters.
You know I actually predicted '09 coming up in your reply, I’m sorry sir, but the time I decide to join a forum has nothing to do with how right or wrong I may be, no matter how much you want it to be.
Not worth it. You have a lot to learn.
Ditto '07.
Fighting games are always a learning experience no matter how often you play.
Lets not get to the 09 or 07 hate here.
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Wrong, If you are a truely good player, you can perform extremely well on a pad, yes an arcade stick is more accurate, and it will make you perform better(once you are used to using it, as I’m sure you know most pad players need time to adjust to the stick) , but that does not mean you are a better player just because you forked out one hundred and eighty euros to get yourself an arcade stick. Not at all and that is bullshit- The Good players got knocked out cos they had to use a pad? Well I can take sympathy in the fact that they had to use a control method they were not used to, when I play SF at my friends on his playstation as opposed to my xbox, my game goes down, for about one round, (the only thing that puts me off is the thumbstick, I use dpad, and the dpad on the ps is weird so I use the thumb on that) but I can still do all the same links, all the same cancels, ultra set ups just fine, it’s still the same game no matter what controller you are using, it still plays the same way, it feels different yeah? but it’s still the same game. Fundamentals will live on, controller or stick.
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I never anywhere said anyone was a better player JUST because they played on stick. I know a lot of people who are terrible on stick. You are making dumb ass assumptions very early, which you are going to continue to do later in this post but I’ll address them as I get there.
So you are comparing the xbox thumb stick to the DS3 thumb stick in your next part right? Just what in the fuck does that have to do with stick to pad? Anyone who only plays on stick if you put them on a pad for the first time they will not have the same success immediately (and vice versa from pad to stick). In tournament play you only have so many chances to get used to what you are playing on. These people showed up with their sticks and were told THAT DAY they were going to have to use a 360 pad for the first time. To people who have played fighting games for a long time (minus tekken and SC for the most part, but this is another conversation) they were completely screwed from the get go by this handicap. Yes basic fundamentals live on, but if you are seriously going to assume again that someone who exclusive trains on one medium is going to be able to switch to an inferior one instantly and achieve the same results you are just being a fool.
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So what, you’re telling us is? if you’re at a tournament right? and yer sitting there waiting for you’re next game and you see two guys in front of you sitting down for a game, and one pulls out his wicked Tournament edition stick and the other pulls out his smackin 360 pad, YOU think- the guy with the stick deserves to win JUST BECAUSE he spent 180 euros to prove to YOU, that he’s more serious about a game? He’s automatically more serious than the guy with the pad, who you don’t know, for all you know, the game with the pad spends 5 hours a day, in training with auto block on, perfecting all the games hardest links, cancels setups, resets whatever, getting it down perfect so even when that tourney pressure kicks in the next day, he won’t fuck them up. That right there, is bullshit because of the gamestops tourneys “actual GOOD players” were so good, it wouldn’t matter shit, whether or not they had a pad or stick, or a toothbrush in their ass, and dont say somethin like “oh typical pad user” because I know how much of a difference the stick does make, I plan to get one once I have the money spare, but I need to use it on other things right now but if anyone seriously thinks, skill level is that seriously affected by the controller you are using, that it should decide who wins the game (hey, which one of these is using the stick? “that guy” “okay, he wins, next!”) then you obviously don’t know what you are talking about, hell, a pad didn’t stop Justin Wong setting the world record of 300 wins to nothing at E3, now did it?
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Again, this paragraph is full of assumptions. You are taking this entirely too personally, while putting words in my mouth at the same time. I never said anything about anyone deserving to win… I also never said anything about assuming anything negative about the pad players practice schedule or work ethic. I said he is putting himself at a disadvantage which you later went on to agree with. So what is your problem here? Just felt like putting words in my mouth and blatantly misconstruing my post?
Another yet another assumption… Justin Wong set that record on pad at the evil controller booth and he was forced to stick to pad as well as all of his challengers. Also, comparing the absolute best overall fighting game players in the entire country’s ability to switch from pad to stick with the average persons is beyond preposterous.
Now do you understand why you received the comment you did? Don’t make stupid assumptions and you won’t get called into question. Pretty much common sense on this forum and in life.
Assumptions, assumptions, I’m hearing alot of that word… So just like you assumed, the “actual good players” were the ones with sticks at gamestop right? Look I could go on but I never posted to start any flame wars, I just strongly disagreed with your post, you’re the one who didn’t like it and then resorts to name calling (09er? come on, seriously) you’re very welcome to argue back since you seem to think you know so much more than me, because you joined the forums two years ago? I’m not just some guy who saw street fighter 4 in a shop tried it, thought it was mega cool and joined the forums, I’ve played tekken since I was 5, I’ve played DOA, Soul Calibur, Street fighter 2, through the years, didnt like SF2 that much, got SF4, loved it, played sf2hdremix, loved that, bought third strike off ebay, loved that, and it’s funny that you’re talking so much about assumptions, when even though you don’t have a clue who I am? You assume that I don’t know what I’m talking about when it comes to fighting games simply because you joined a forum before I did? and yes I’m assuming that’s what you think because that’s exactly how your posts make it look, so get over it.
I’d like to think everybody else who didn’t join the forum in year 2009 isn’t as narrow minded as you’re making yourself sound. I live in hope. =/
I assume you don’t know what you are talking about because of your statements. It really has nothing to do with your join date. It’s just all too typical lately for statements similar to yours to be made by newer members. Does it happen ONLY with new members? No. However the majority especially since SF4 has come to console have been from newer members.
Sigh, and I’m gonna have to assume that’s a lie since you said;
Random 09 logic
Cos of my statements? whatever man.
I just explained why I said that and you still don’t get it. Are you sure you understand english?
I pretty much just told you that I would have said you have no idea what you are talking about and have a lot to learn regardless of your join date. Just thought I’d blatantly spell it out for you to avoid any further confusion.
Here’s an idea guys: either get over it or take it to PMs :tup: