Are you the worst Sakura Player? Vent here

lool. Nice one. :woot: Soon it won’t feel like a birthday. It’ll feel like any other day. One day you’ll have even more BP than he does and you might even feel a bit annoyed if you lose to someone with his amount of BP that if they didn’t play very well.

I hope you’re right. :slight_smile:

I’ve only been playing about a month now and am just now getting the basics out of the way and moving into stuff like plinking and mixups. The last fighting game I remember playing regularly was Mortal Kombat 2 arcade.

I bought SFIV and BlazBlue on a Vicodin-induced whim and now I’m hooked. Kinda sucks though, cause I’d like to play on an arcade machine but I can’t find shit in Northeast Ohio at all. Closest is Columbus and that is like 2 hrs away.

I’m bummed. I just lost about12 - 2 to a Bison player (played a couple with Blanka, too). Honestly, he got very lucky at times. Lots of my moves seemed to miss by inches or they just plain didn’t come out. I did some stupid mistakes, too. I was jumping too much, kept trying moves that I knew wouldn’t hit, stuff like that. And I know everyone knows this, but cr. hp is amazing! It kept beating EX Head Stomp!

I can’t beat headstomp at all… dunno how people do it :lol: At best I trade, WAY in his favor but usually I just get hit :frowning: I hate bison so much. I’ve hated him since SNES. I got so mad once fighting cpu bison that I yanked the cartridge from my SNES, started throwing it repeatedly against a wall until it broke open, then went to the front door and hurled it into the street… I went out and picked it up half an hour later, dusted it off and put it back in my nintendo… still worked

They really don’t make games like they used to :rofl:

I have never beaten ex head stomp with c.hp or j. anything! I just take the huge chip damage or hope to dash under it.

nj.hp seems to beat headstop but the timing is kinda tricky :confused:

Just got to g1 today. I havent played SF4 online for about 2 months.

The first person I played was SRK’s own Mariodood. He beat me with Guile.

Now that I’m in G1, I feel like the worst Sakura player. Its so easy to mix people up in G2. People dont fall for the same tricks anymore.

You know what I hate? Kens that go directly from blocked EX Tatsu in EX Shoryu. Good players don’t pull this crap, so I do things to counter what good players are going to do and eat the Shoryu.

Those kind of Kens do HP or EX SRK after everything :rofl:

I can’t stand this anymore, since I’m in G1 I only encountered Blanka, Blanka, Zangief, Blanka, Zangief… I can’t win with sakura, I think im gonna cry !

G1 is tough but keep at it. Played a couple player matches to blow of steam; lost 20-8 but had a great time.

gief should be one of your easiest match ups… especially g-1 giefs

Have you played the Giefs that walk up to you when you are knocked down? Its mind game BS.

yes i have, and those are the ones i love the most, they have pretty much 4 options: lariat, SPD, block or pokes. wake up backdash is your friend, unless you have three bars, then its just EX shou with a cancel -> backdash if he blocks. i get most of my hate mail from giefs, its beautiful.

Errr, I don’t see how can Gief be an easy match-up. Unless you’re talking about those guys that just pick him once a month just for fun.
He’s got all the tools to destroy Sakura.
A beastly st.mp that outrange anything Sakura has.
A green hand with easy inputs(seriously, don’t hado a zangief that’s walking on you.).
Awesome short jump/long jump coupled with awesome cross-ups.
Lariat… and the list goes on.

I’ve never struggled much with Zangief, either, good or bad. In fact, I’d rather face Zangief with Sakura than Blanka!

By the way, I’ve noticed you have to be directly underneath Bison’s EX Headstomp for cr. hp to beat it. So, if he does it on wake-up, then cr. hp will beat it.

lulz at lariat being an anti sakura tool… dude lariat = free c.mk -> shouo or if not, free sweep and knockdown. green hand? pfft i can see that coming a mile a way and on block = free combo for me. jumps are pretty much the only thing to worry about, but if youre playing right, he wont be close enough to jump on you very much. you just gotta play a real patient game, dont be afraid to wind down the clock.

Lariat is not a anti-sakura tool. It’s an anti air tool for everyone except Akuma(damn, that bitch and his godly demon dive).
Of course if a Zangief Lariat while i’m still on ground he’ll eat my shouo.
But you are assuming that most zangief on G1 are variants of the Ken Flowchart while you might hold some truth there it’s not always the case.
A non-flowchart gief will first zone you to death with st.mp. A poke that outrange anything Sakura has except her hado, and that can be beaten easily with ex green hand on reaction(if i can ex shouo Ryu’s hado on reaction then there is no way a zangief can’t do the same with the retarded hado Sakura has).
In between and/or if you’re cornered, he’ll mess up with your head with a j. long/short j.hk/empty. If you’re either already eating the floor or he’s got you in a blockstring. And a blockstring means either tick throw or combo leading to knockdown.
Once you’re down, it’s pretty much up to luck :slight_smile: His mix-ups are as stupidly good as Sakura’s.

That’s not to say that the match-up is impossible. Sakura’s got tools to defeat Zangief: hado/ex hado, j.lk that can beats early Lariat, superior speedwalk, and shouo fadc to big damage.
I’m quite curious of your sight of the match-up(excluding the retard zangiefs).

last i checked s.mp from gief doesnt take the full screen, which is where you SHOULD be when fighting gief. secondly, why are you jumping in on gief that often in the first place. when you do jump you have to time it and space it right and it will stuff lariat everytime.

cornered? no problem. option one, counter jump in nj.mk (which stuffs ALL his jump-ins, unless its a meaty cross up in which case youll get hit midair and flip making you immune to eating a SPD, in which case you can back dash on land and be out of the corner). option 2, you have an EX bar, Kara-Air Tatsu the hell out and reset the game field in your favor. option 3, you have a lot of EX bars, wake up EX shouo and confirm the hit. if its blocked, EX cancel backdash, he cant do shit.

as for the hadouken/green hand override, you need to know your zoning. know when to throw hadous and when to charge. sakuras hadou moves so slow that you can catch some giefs when they lariat through. if they green hand, and if you spaced right, they wont touch you. once youve put it in their mind youre gonna be hadou spamming, bait the GH and punish. unless the connection is awful, they are at a frame disadvantage on blocked GH.

when i play giefs i dont go for fat combos. i just pick at his health slowly, but surely. like i said, its a patience game. the problem is most ppl dont have the patience to watch the clock wind down.

Ok, now I get what you meant by “don’t be afraid to let clock wind”.
I usually play passive aggressive zoning at cr.mk range. I haven’t tried to zone a gief the hell out with 3/4 screen hadou yet (i’ll do that as soon as i can though :slight_smile: ).
And no I don’t jump on gief that often, I was just saying lariat was making it impossible to jump on him. And there’s also the fact that if he guards it then it’s free throw/360throw for him.