I’m a fairly new guy to fighting games but highly interested. My main problem is that my only regular sparring partner is so significantly better than me that I don’t really learn as much as I could from playing “worse” players.
Now don’t get me wrong here, I don’t mind losing at all (ok that’s a bit of a lie, I don’t mind it THAT much), but I think playing experienced veterans as a newbie is a waste of the other person’s playtime and again I get the feeling that I get better feedback from players more evenly matched.
However from what I heard from my training partner it seems like there are not many entry level players left in online / ranked mode (PC). Is that the case or is there hope for me yet? Would it perhaps make sense to look for some regular sparring partners (EU seems to have quite a low player population) in the forums or will that just be a waste of time?
Well, there’s not many but there certainly are some.
I suck pretty hard at SF4 but still maintain a 40% winrate and run into complete newbies on more than one occasion during a playing session.
Most people have a basic understanding of what they are doing though, since this game is like 5 years old and thus has a pretty mature (in the skill sense) audience.
The more you get beaten down, the angrier you get at yourself, the more you push yourself in training room.
Good competition either makes a player good fast or quit fast.
No, there’s not enough beginners playing online, and I think that’s bad for the growth of the game. Right now a really new person will go online to play and will lose consistently almost all their games for dozens if not hundreds of hours online. (You can tell from all the threads here.) How many people are willing to lose like 90% of their games for 100 hours and keep playing?
I think this is mostly the game’s “fault”, it doesn’t try hard enough to match new people up with people their level.
Anyway, I assume by “entry level” you don’t mean someone that’s played 1000 hours, but rather someone that’s played like 50 hours. There are a few of these but not many (judging from US xbox). If you find someone about your level, try inviting them to endless.
Yeah, it’s moderately frustrating. Even people with 0PP are often clearly smurfing or something. I often go entire nights without meeting a single player that seems inexperienced.
I know that people say you learn more from playing people that are better than you, but when they’re just SO MUCH better than you that you get smoked in 10 seconds it’s hard to see yourself learning much.
It could be “smurfing” but it could be simply that said player just upgraded to ultra. When u upgrade to ultra PP/BP resets to 0. So it’s hard to tell.
On PC there are still quite alot of newbies, seen loads of them in endless and ranked. On Xbox the playerpool is better though and you won’t see “enough” beginners.
Well the skill level on PC is lower than XBL, so if there was any place to learn, it would be PC. Most people are waiting until October for the PC patch to drop, once that does, the players will comeback, and the best part is that it will no longer be split between official server and beta test server, so the player population will go back up to a solid respectable amount. But to be honest, there aren’t many super scrub beginners on PC either, but you should still be able to survive on PC more than XBL because of the overall skill level being a bit higher thing. PC players are probably around the PS3 level players, if not just a bit better, you do of course run into good PC players, a few pro’s play on it, but are just waiting for the patch.
You can add me on steam if you want (same name). I’m new as far as trying to ‘play properly’ goes, though not sure how we will match up. I have recently started using a stick, so any execution improvements I had made on pad are pretty much gone. I’m more or less starting from scratch.
Just like with the launch of SF4 AE at 2011 on PC.
Had to wait few weeks till various issues had been sorted out (eg sticks not being recognized) but when good Xbox360 players appeared, together with experienced Vanilla SF4 PC players, competition was quite decent. GFWL was easier to navigate too for Xbox players.
Now with Steamworks and the netplay issue we’ll have to wait a little bit longer for good players to settle. I’ll buy the game on a Christmas sale, though I dont play as much as in 2011-12.
But today there is a much larger fighter segmentation on PC than before.
Now PC, mainly Steam has MK9, Injustice, Divekick, Skullgirls, Yatagarasu,KOFXIII, Naruto and by Christmas KOF98FE and KOF2002UM. Fighters for both casual and hardcore. So not all will jump straight to SF4 like in 2011. Some might switch to other fighters, making USF4 playerbase smaller
Tonight for example - at 150PP - matchmaking set to “same skill” has put me up against a 2500PP Sagat and a 2500(?)PP Hakan with something like 15000BP.
It wouldn’t be quite as annoying if this wasn’t actually fairly typical.
the average PP here in canada is roughly 1500 PP, but you’ll encounter a handful of players in the 0-800PP range. I can’t say about the US because the PC connection is god awful
I started playing SF4 only during the Ultra update, so I’m actually very new to the game. I’ve been online and have been getting beatdowns left and right as I’m still trying to figure out the game/get used to the mechanics and muscle memory/pick a main, so it’s a tough road right now. If you want to spar, you can find me on Steam, my name is SLEZv1.
Im technically a noob. But my new job doesn’t allow me to play as much as i want. By the time im home everyone sleeping and my days off is a weekday. Is hard to find casuals during the week. I would play online but psn has horrible connection with capcom games.
I will say don’t just give up. Believe it or not. When i played last time months ago. I was 0-15 but noticed after each game i was getting a lil better. Noticing i wasn’t being as predictable. Was more calm and thought of what moves to make. My button smashing skills were getting lower. Lol
Just keep it up be patient
The funniest part is that when some 2000PP person gets into my lobby and (obviously) beats me down, they’ll instantly pop into my lobby as soon as I open a new one up.
Like…really? Are you that hard up for some wins? ><
It’s not about winning. It’s about practicing combos, new characters and setups in a pressured but not too pressured environment.
Going from training room to a match where you’re under real pressure doesn’t work too well, rather try new stuff on a newb first.
If the standard for noobs is, “You should be happy to fight people better than you, you learn more.” then surely for much better players they should be aiming to face players at least on their level to learn, not sniping newbies over and over once they find one.
