I never really took notice to it until recently(since i got to g1 actually…), but two matches stand out in my mind recently one against a Seth and just now against an Elf player… Green bar until theyre about to lose a round. I was dominating the match and had him down to 1 hit and bam lag followed by by entire life bar being drained. Im not complaining about a loss because I actually won both of these matches(i still managed a perfect in the second round against the elf player), but im very suspicious about this, and I wonder what you guys think.
im thinking the 5 point loss thing causes people to do this…
i dunno i may be wrong, but ive been seeing very suspicious lag lately… Ive also seen people talk about lag makers for other games
This same lag would work against him as well, wouldn’t it? I don’t want to poo poo you too heavily, I’ve heard people discuss lag tactics before… but still.
dont make yourself crazy thinking people are trying to cheat you every time it lags.
i dont use any kind of lag manipulation at all but i have been accused of doing it many times.
I felt the same way also. The other time I encounter an el fuerte who had 5 bars, once we got into the game it was lagging like hell. Later on found the same person again, when i got into the room it was 5 bar and then to 1 bar.
There are enough fuckwits out there playing on dodgy, unstable and insecure wireless connections, they’ll be used to the mongoloid lag spikes which may catch you off guard and cost you the match.
Then again there are also cunts who will use any tactic not to lose their precious points and use a switch to throttle their connections to ruin your combos or lag you so much you dunno if you’re still connected.
Some people don’t live by themselves you know. When I’m playing sometimes one of my flatmates will start streaming or downloading something, then the game will go to shit. I really doubt anyone you’re playing is intentionaly lagging themselves.
This bullshit happens to me everyday, EVERYDAY. The same way that Necro described too… My opponent comes in with a full green bar, but the difference with me is that if he’s winning most of the match it won’t lag one bit… but as soon as i get up and start rushing him down, there goes the uncontrollable LAG. and this happens to me usually with EL and Seth players, and also very bad Ryu players. and the funny part about this is some of these players is they have 50,000 grade points sometimes more or less doesn’t matter… the point is they have all these points and there not even GOOD. So how did they get these points? Hmm… puts you to think huh… As for me I have 29,000 points and i got mine all legit, and i just got back on SF4 online like a month ago and when i came back i only had 19,000 points, so i’ve earned 10,000 points since then… i could have had more but these LAG FREAKS man… sometimes i have to meet with these people in the Finals and lose… I think i’m going to quit the whole online play thing with SF4… and try to hit up Chinatown fair more often
I don’t know dude…
a friend of mine played an akuma a few days ago. Everytime my friend won, the akuma accused him of using a lag switch. I have no fuckin’ idea of how a lag switch works except for starting to download during the match, but he doesn’t even have an internet connection to his computer because the wire is in his xbox when playing.
Anyway, the Akuma just raged about that every time, sending hatemail and I think even one mindblowing voicemail. So I guess he really believed in that lag-generate-thing.
People see what they want to see, so think about it and be honest to yourselfs if it’s really always when they lose or if it’s just your ego that can’t take a loss.
I mean, come on… Fuerte and Seths? Why not include Tiger Shots and Uppercuts spamming Sagats and Fire-Kens?
I have had quite a bit of similar experiences, I think we even had a thread about it some day.
Live with it, some people are stupid…
All you need is a laptop and a torrent client, without even going as far as building a real lag switch/pedal like some people have demonstrated possible.
The 5 points loss makes people do a LOT of bad things in G1, which is why I have pretty much abandoned that.
Get a few contacts that are good at playing and go play player matches, it is more rewarding in the end.
I think they should remove the points loss in Super, it is unneeded and the reason for a lot of grief., but still, play player matches.
Of al the things, that is the best advice I ever got on SRK!
Need to remember that bar is a ping. It’s not a realtime gauge of your connection to the other player. It’s how quickly a message was sent back and forth in one moment of time. Connections aren’t always the same. Could be someone else in the household downloading/watching something like others have said. Could also be a messed up modem or router or just a shitty ISP making the connection erratic. You know your stuff is all good, but what’s the other guy know about his connection? He could be raging about this every few matches because his modem is fucked up and he’s doesn’t know it.
Prado:Don’t think there’s champ mode at all in Super.
do they exist and get used online? you would be a fool to not realize that this DOES happen. i had a match vs. a guile over the weekend with my cammy. 5 bar connection with no lag to speak of the entire first round, it looked like he was gonna win handily as i hadn’t gotten in for the first 40 seconds and had just been shut out entirely by zoning. then i manged to ex hooligan a sonic boom to get in and finished the round in like 20 seconds. so next round starts and is going similar, only this time when i get in the game just goes to hell in a hand basket, one of the laggiest matches ever, so naturally i can’t really do anything and i get pushed out by jabs… funny thing though as soon as i am back out again the match returns to normal with no lag. and this process repeated itself the next 4 or 5 times that i got in on guile.
so in this situation where he is the turtle and i’m trying to confuse his defense with rushdown, lag will hurt the offensive player much more than it does the defensive player, and since he only needs to have it lag until i’m back at a distance where i’m no longer a threat it’s a easy way for him to gain a cheap advantage.
I’ve had my share of moments where the game lags at the exact moment I get a leg up, but I can’t imagine it’s any more than a coincidence. The time and effort it would take to practice fighting at two different speeds and also switching between them at the right moments just seems far greater than the end result. I’m sure it happens, but I highly doubt it’s very common.
I’ve had the same feeling a lot recently, to the point I dubbed it “Convenient second-round when my opponent has just lost the first round-lag”
I find it gets worse for me in the evening but that’s more than likely because I have 2 laptops and the PS3 connected to a wireless router so I generally play in the morning to avoid a lot of it since it’s just the PS3 hogging the network then XD. Though some are questionable when I play against a 5-bar connection that suddenly gets so laggy that Scarlet Terror takes a good 5 seconds to complete the animation.
I cant verify I have ever ran into a lag switch user, but I probably have over all these years on Xbox Live. I myself have been accused of using a lag switch with SFIV, MW2, and Halo 3. My favorite excuse in online gaming is when people tell me something like “Hey bro, you may have beaten me on the internet, play me offline and get your ass beat…literally bitch!” LULZ
I love when Darksydephil gets pissed at losing and blames everything on all of his opponents having lag swtiches to ruin his life. LOL
Might also be a case of “brain patternicity”, where we attribute something a meaning it doesn’t have based on false correlation.
Ie. if the game starts lagging when no one is on top, we blame luck and don’t get angry.
If the same random lag starts while you are winning, we are inclined to blame lag switches.
That makes us see false positives.
The best way to know is checking if it happens again with the same player.
I can testify to at least two cases that were certainly due to a lag switch of sort.
