i know a button can be wired as both, but i did state in my post just before yours that its much easier to call someone out on it when you see it happening. its MUCH easier to see someone reaching for an arbitrary button to block and dish out a DQ than it is for two normal buttons, and yes im glad SODC isnt available in ultimate and seems like capcom is more aware of the issue now for future fighting games but maybe not all companies are as aware
so from my understanding is that noone is arguing against me that a joystick modification that allowed SODC would hinder gameplay, the most feasible cheat would be to assign a separate button right?
well, you may not be watching the opponents hands, but if an audience member (most tournament matches do have people watching the match behind the players) sees a copious amount of perfect blocking may become suspicious and look at the blocker’s hands and use of buttons (4k, 4p?).
i guess im a minority in this opinion shrug oh well i just thought “better safe than sorry” would be the best way to run a tournament, but it would seriously be bottlenecked by the tournaments resources and staff so it really wouldn’t be feasible.
Doing a stick mod would be goofy. There could be a way to make it work, but making it a button is just much simpler.
yeah, that was sort of my entire argument in the first place. though it took an entire page of me getting ripped on for anyone to agree with me :-\
Well the point was that a stick can still do SOCD. Arguing that because it would be unusual to mod the stick itself disregarding the buttons to SOCD making it impossible to SOCD is ridiculous. You can’t disregard any input methods on a controller, if the stick can’t SOCD the buttons can.
this discussion is actually turning out to be pretty funny. now im curious as to what type of design people can collaboratively come up with for the cheapest most blatantly cheating controller ever. Double blocking buttons, auto combos, etc lol.
Really that discussion would end with a programmable pad. It doesn’t get any more blatantly cheating than never having to do your own combos.
There more I could quote from you but for the interest of post length I keep most of it out.
Context, I had read your post has you had written it, just like anyone else; I didn’t care what you meant. It was the little dancing lights on my screen that formed words that I pay attention too and not the hamster running on a wheel inside your thick skull. If I have to I tear your post apart again I will and can do it, because son this is the internet.
What part you did not understand when it was said Mr Wizard of Evo stated, that Evo lacks the** time**, staff and resources to bother testing any controllers for SOCD. You do not even need to mod a PS2 controller for SOCD, just hit the analog one direction and the d-pad the other.
Also as stated above SOCD can be replicated in any controller. An un-moddified Dual Shock1,2,3 Six Axis and Xbox 360 pad can all replicate SOCD by hitting one direction of the d-pad and the other on the Left analog stick.
SOCD is a flaw in Marvel Vs Capcom 3 programing code and not a flaw in any console, controller or other piece of hardware.
I quoting your own words here
That statement would include every custom ever. What is a custom stick but a holes drilled in a box and parts jammed into it?
I didn’t miss read you words there, I understood it exactly as you wrote it.If there is a miscommunication in was on you not me, not anyone else. The points you tried in vain to argue against we already in this thread went over time and time again disproved that SOCD is a hit box exclusive fault, and we did this long before you poke your ratty head into this thread and dropped your two cents.
Kpxcho just do your self a favor and just stop posting, your only going to dig your self a deeper hole.
i’m sorry, i was proven wrong. again i apologize.
are we cool now?
Depending on how consoles are set up, it might be possible to build a controller that poisons the other player’s inputs or reads them on some hidden channel and auto-responds.
sure we are cool. Even I am not that much of a jack ass to hold grudges that long
Definitely doable on PSX/PS2 If Im remembering right. You couldn’t make a signal unpressed that was pressed, but you could press any signal. 
lol this is thinking outside the box. that would be godlike cheating.
rubs hands together I need to gets me a hit box/button board!
Too bad the Old Guard managed to brow beat the community into hating HD:R, or else we could be lobbying for an SOCD fix for it too.
Oh well, not too big an issue, people still playing HD:R are few enough that they can police one another about unethical uses of SOCD’s.
If i wanted to hide my CheatStick, i would lay it out like this.
Then the thumb would rest just where your block button is
This is getting silly but could you possibly rig a controller to block both directions and block low and high all with one button?
You could rig a controller to send up+down+left+right, sure. But there is no game that I know of where that would be interpreted as blocking both high and low, and only one now dead game where it would block both right and left.
Could someone post/PM me the diagrams for cleaning SOCD inputs? (both L+R=>N and U+D=>U)
I had to restore during the week and lost 2 weeks worth of stuff.
There’s also Toodles’ kit.