Are colors too much of a grind fest?

[pootnannies]

ya’ll are part of the problem. I would rather grind this shit out then have to pay any money for something this simple. But instead, all you’re telling capcom is that you don’t want to work for stuff and would rather spend more money messing up other people like myself that believe we shouldn’t have to pay real money for this shit. Its like everyone forgot about all the DLC BS that capcom has done recently and you wanna go back to it. So glad I’m giving up from fighting games.

just out of curiosity, have you tried it? it’s either stupid easy or stupid hard, no in between. i wouldn’t be surprised if this was also part of a DLC scheme where they hide stuff behind mindless CPU bs to frustrate people into giving them real money to unlock shit.

[gilley]

I’m beginning to think it’s impossible to beat survival hard mode with Birdie. I got up to 43 and that was it. I regularly die somewhere in the 30’s. I’ve spent like 3 days attempting to beat it and nothing. You don’t even get any fight money for your failed attempts. The AI is just too ridiculous. I might have to wait until they tweak the AI, which I’m 100% sure they will.

The supplements are also stupid. Why even have the stun/double down/etc.? You only need the health/attack/defense supplements

It’s possible, I did it. It took me about 20 tries with probably 12 of them ending in the early 40’s. The third time I faced level 45 Zangief I was able to defeat him and all the subsequent opponents. You face Birdie again in round 47ish, btw. You definitely have to get lucky with your supplements. Sometimes I would take the defense 3 or the attack power 3 over the health if it was only a low. I was only a few pixels from death against Necalli on round 50 when I won. I probably would have took a hammer to my PS4 if I lost on round 50.

What I did for most of the opponents after 40 or so is always start with EX bullhorn charged. Don’t just launch it on go but when the cpu starts to come toward you or uses a projectile attack, let it rip. If it hits then jump in for a crossup attack/combo. Crossups seem to work pretty well against most of the cast because they’ll use the wrong anti-air and get stuffed. If the crossup is blocked or I’m hit out of it I’ll back off and use LK hanging chain while keeping a safe enough distance to not get hit by a jump in. Sometimes, if they were blocking the chain too much I would charge EX bullhead again and try to preemptively beat one of their attacks. Once the hanging chain (or EX bullhorn) hits, start the jump crossup shenanigans again. Against level 45 Zangief I don’t bother with the EX bullhorn (he can spd on block) and instead just try to grab him with LK chain into crossup attack. If you have attack up 3 it doesn’t take much to finish off an opponent. Also, crouching LP is a nice poke to finish off an opponent if they’re near death.

Unfortunately, for Birdie, there’s no “cheese” tactic that you can use to easily defeat opponents. You have to get lucky with your supplements and you have to get luck with your jump-in/crossup attacks to open them up with combos.

Hope that helps.

Thanks for the tips. I just now got to level 47 hard mode. I jumped at Vega like an idiot and he airthrew me. I found Zangief to be one of my easiest opponents in this. He’s one of the few characters you can repeatedly bull head over and over against. Gief, Laura, Necalli are the easiest to do this tactic with. I also found some semi-repeatable AI tricks against cpu Birdie. I backdash then immediately throw out MK hanging chain. I continue throwing out MK hanging chains. Birdie will block a few, then get hit with one. Then when he bounces away, I throw a can down, and continue back to throwing MK hanging chains. It works really well. If he manages to get close to me, I just resort to c.lk, s.mk, and f+hp to push him away or hit him. Then backdash and go back to MK hanging chains.

[simon]

if you play with a ps3 stick and the controller runs out of battery the stick stops working but the game doesnt pause. just wrecked half my living room getting the charging cable while birdie was standing in front of me punching me in the face every few seconds.

[USf]

Really tempted to just use the trainer for this stupid shit, but worried about getting banned.

[trouserkingcobra]

ya’ll are part of the problem. I would rather grind this shit out then have to pay any money for something this simple. But instead, all you’re telling capcom is that you don’t want to work for stuff and would rather spend more money messing up other people like myself that believe we shouldn’t have to pay real money for this shit. Its like everyone forgot about all the DLC BS that capcom has done recently and you wanna go back to it. So glad I’m giving up from fighting games.

fuck you buddy.

[FGC_Oni]

Made it to level 49 with Ryu before Rashid decided I wasn’t worthy of getting the costumes. Well there’s 45 minutes I just wasted.

[Seroczynski]

I’m still unable to beat stage 30 on Normal with Ryu and I hate spending 20 minutes for absolutely nothing. At least some character EXP for the matches that have been won, even just a tiny bit, would have eased the frustration.

Not even going to attempt Hard and Hell.

[Beganoo]

Or an AI Chun Li who does B.HP INTO SBK, something that shouldn’t be possible?

Nothing unusual about that. Standing normals cancelled into down-charge moves aren’t that difficult…

No human alive can hit a cancelable move while already standing and cancel into a down up charge. It’s not possible.

You can. If you do the standing normal just after you’ve gotten the charge it can work. You keep the charge for few frames after standing up.

[chopperbyrne]

They should let you spend as much points as you want on multiple buffs.
Health, Attack and Defense Ups before the last few fights would make this far better.

[Wikum]

I’m beginning to think it’s impossible to beat survival hard mode with Birdie. I got up to 43 and that was it. I regularly die somewhere in the 30’s. I’ve spent like 3 days attempting to beat it and nothing. You don’t even get any fight money for your failed attempts. The AI is just too ridiculous. I might have to wait until they tweak the AI, which I’m 100% sure they will.

The supplements are also stupid. Why even have the stun/double down/etc.? You only need the health/attack/defense supplements

ok if you are struggling with it i feel a lot better about myself lol.

[The_Mullah]

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just us the trainer man. its a total waste of time.

[mr.tibbs]

The spikes in difficulty are ridiculous. I have to keep waking myself up while mindlessly throwing or repeating the same bnb like I’m in training mode, and then suddenly one of the erstwhile training dummies becomes a brick wall that punishes every move with a 30% combo.

But what can you do? Gotta get those colors.

[Darklightjg1]

I beat it on hard a couple of days ago with Chun. I mostly used the DF+HK exploit and if the AI got wise to it, I resorted to zoning (which is less risky, but takes forever and your anti-air game absolutely has to be on point). I attempted it at least 15 times while listening to radio shows/streams to keep myself from being too bored.

It’s so stupid since it’s essentially making you do a one-credit clear with luck being too much of a factor and you get NOTHING if you lose. Beat 48-49 levels, but got a bad supplement list and lost to input-read happy Bison/Necalli? Too bad, gotta trudge through ALL 50 LEVELS again!

And you KNOW you don’t want to. You really REALLY don’t want to. That’s how they get you! They tap into that emotion. Then they’ll pull some BS like make colors available in the shop for FM (which you mostly like would rather save for the actual new characters when they drop… that’s what most people really planned to grind for).

Well, fuck that. I ain’t spending any FM on colors unless I end up wit a HUGE surplus that would cover like 3 seasons worth of DLC characters. I don’t respect the scheme of frustrating the hell out of players to get them to cave in for the “easier” option. Lol, fuckin’ scumbags.

[ArtVandelay]

Never again:

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/320123842407615571/AF65AA1657FC03C4C6384C0326475079B959A63A/

Fuck you, Ono!

[Smashbro29]

Lost on match 45 … >.<

So damn pissed off i am tempted to use one of those infinite health and 1 hit KO Trainers. But i am pretty sure that shit will get me banned on steam , so i won’t …

God dammit man, i just want that black color for Cammy.

Why stop there? Color unlocks are a client side thing, just unlock them.

If you’re on PC, there’s a trainer by FLING out that allows inf. health and one hit k.o.'s

Where?

[Dantemundus]

This mode just disgusts me. it’s just poorly designed garbage. And Ono-chan locks colours behind it… What an absolute plonker. the mode has lag/slowdown. The ai blocks during the middle of combos (cancels, not links). The supplements are rng and you can only use one each round. The ai is wonky as fuck and decides to own you randomly. There is absolutely nothing worthwhile or redeeming about this mode; its a ridiculous waste of time that actually makes you worse as a player the longer you stick with it, since you get accustomed to playing a fucking ai, not other players… Which defeats the entire purpose of this bare bones release. what fucking moron at Capcom thought this was a good idea? And why is no one ripping them a new asshole over it?

[Sevans]

Can’t get through it with Vega, which bums me out because he’s got some sick ass colors to in his 7-10 slots.

[Sielanas]

Why stop there? Color unlocks are a client side thing, just unlock them.

Does that mean ini tweaks are possible?

[Easilyn]

ya’ll are part of the problem. I would rather grind this shit out then have to pay any money for something this simple. But instead, all you’re telling capcom is that you don’t want to work for stuff and would rather spend more money messing up other people like myself that believe we shouldn’t have to pay real money for this shit. Its like everyone forgot about all the DLC BS that capcom has done recently and you wanna go back to it. So glad I’m giving up from fighting games.

But duuuuuude. That shit is so tedious when you not in the mood for ittttt oh my god man.
doing one of those a day for each character is like 90-120 days oh my goddddddd

[Da_Stunna]

ya’ll are part of the problem. I would rather grind this shit out then have to pay any money for something this simple. But instead, all you’re telling capcom is that you don’t want to work for stuff and would rather spend more money messing up other people like myself that believe we shouldn’t have to pay real money for this shit. Its like everyone forgot about all the DLC BS that capcom has done recently and you wanna go back to it. So glad I’m giving up from fighting games.

Man, shut the fuck up.