Because dps are invincible and kill the momentum of the attacker if they connect. It’s a high risk/high reward defensive option.
A command grab is an offensive option and gets punished if the defender: jumps, backdashes, walks out of distance, pokes you out of it, performs a grab invincible move, dps or anything that is fully invincible
If you don’t want to put in the work then you’re going to suck. Simple as that. Execution is a fundamental. I can’t believe people actually complain about combo execution when the plinking exploit is readily available for the vast majority of optimized combos. Nuckledu said that I had really good execution doing even the jab 1-frame links that can’t be plinked. I only practiced for one hour a day in the waning phase of Ultra. If I can do it, anyone can. If you don’t want to put the time in, then maybe fighting games just aren’t your genre.
Ultra had no unblockables. So that’s just an incorrect point you’re trying to make.
In other words, what does a command grab beat? Only blocking, really. If you’re lucky or a god like Snake Eyez, you’ll command grab extended limbs from pokes now and then, but generally command grabs are specifically hard read moves used to beat blocks.
Idk about other characters, but Necalli only does 120-140 damage off of normal command grabs and no setup afterwards if it’s midscreen. It’s good damage, but it’s not great. A neutral jump and optimized punish is usually worth at least two command grabs worth of damage. That doesn’t even go into the corner carry, momentum, and setup afterwards of the punish, either.
Video games are still a business. They’re not a true sport so you have to expect that certain things will be mitigated or adjusted to fit such business. Alpha and SF3 weren’t very link heavy games any ways so it’s not like every SF game was heavy on tight links.
SF3 may not have had tight links but the execution was still much more difficult than SF5. It baffles me that there are people who say they played Urien in 3s and then complain about links in 4. Urien’s optimized shit is pretty hard, man.
So you can block a lvl.3 focus attack? Am I reading that right? Also L-O-fucking-L at you thinking that I didn’t “put in the time” or at least try to. I guess you glossed over the arthritis part of my statement huh? Or should I have pushed through the pain to keep pressing buttons after an hour or so?
His optimized shit is pretty hard, but most of the top Japanese and US Uriens didn’t even use it. RX was the only one really doing it and nobody else could do it as well as him. He was playing a Marvel character while most everyone else was just playing Urien. Other top Uriens like Pierre, Gootecks and Afuro mainly relied on footsies and more basic setups.
3rd Strike’s execution was all over the place really. You had characters like Alex and Chun that outside of very specific things have some of the easiest execution in fighting game history. Ryu’s execution isn’t that hard either. Then you have other characters like Oro, Yun, Makoto and Urien with more complicated stuff.
I think what people don’t like about IV is there isn’t really an Alex or Chun to go to if you just want a characters that basic execution wise and works. SFV streamlines things more in that respect, although there are some characters like Chun and Karin who have old game level execution.
Lol why were you getting hit by level 3 focus attacks? Jump or backdash. You don’t have to reversal.
If you want to be good, then yes. I train in fighting right now with a sprained MCL and PCL in my left knee and a torn muscle in my right shoulder. I trained for four consecutive hours yesterday. Arthritis sucks, but if you got passion, then you make it work somehow.
Why all the attitude? Are you butthurt?
Lol well you’re right about the Urien thing, but then you bring up a good point; his high-execution stuff was too hard to do consistently, but people could choose not to use it.
You’re right about 3S execution being all over the place. I feel like SF5 should have taken a similar approach. Almost every character in 5 has the same level of execution. Chun is actually really fun for me to play. Karin is boring. That’s just me, though.
SF4 had a lot of easy-execution characters if you didn’t go opt to go for optimization. Ryu, Ken, and Rose are the easiest ones that come to my mind.
I was responding to two people in the same post so I wouldn’t have to double post.
Gee why didn’t I think of that? It’s not like they could time the focus to catch my pre-jump frames. Backdash you say? Glad the game taught me that. Oh wait…
Ninja we’re not talking about learning how to weld or fixing a car or training for a triathalon. We’re talking about pressing buttons. Let me type that for you again. We’re talking about PRESSING. BUTTONS. Hitting one-frame links isn’t something I see as a worthwhile skill. When playing a video game, a VIDEO GAME, starts to feel like work rather than fun then why bother?
The “attitude” (I’m actually amused by all of this) is you assuming that I suck because have a problem with 1-frame links. You’re calling me butthurt? You? Weren’t you challenging niggas to fistfights at Evo or some shit?
They can catch your pre jump frames, but they can’t do it on reaction.
Pressing buttons with a 1/60th of a second precision in timing is skillful. Sako’s execution requires skill.
I was challenging niggas to fist fights at EVO because unlike most people on the internet, including you, I actually have the balls to talk shit in person and back it up. Fuckin scrub.
I never said that hitting one-frame links wasn’t a skill. It’s just not something that I’m going to keep trying to do when it means fuckall outside of a VIDEO GAME.
If you think that any of my post in this thread constitutes as “talking shit” then your feelings must be softer than your knees.
Lol whatever faggot. You ain’t got the fucking balls to say shit to me in person. Like I said before, I’ll be at Bally’s next week. If you got balls, show up. If not, then it’s clear who the bitch is here. [details=Spoiler]You.
Between the 2 of us, who’s the one with the malfunctioning brain?
Oh right… :s
Obviously I hurt your feelings so I’ll tell you what. Give me the address for Ballys and I’ll send you something:
An ax
You can then have someone point you in the direction of the nearest forest so you can chop down some trees, proving to yourself once again how much of a “man” you are, build a bridge and get the fuck over it.
You. You’re the one with a malfunctioning brain. With your fifth grade ass comebacks lol.
Stay on that keyboard, doe. Unlike you, I actually go to tournaments and know the game and am friends with a few of its top players in the US. You’re just a little bitch.
That’s a strange thing to say
If someone likes video game and wants to play it, and presumably take it seriously enough to compete in tournaments, it should follow that they should be willing and able to play enough to reach a level of competency; if someone really enjoys the game, it should be a labor of love, not a drag…
if you don’t enjoy the game enough to be willing to do what’s necessary… why play at all?
You like the game enough to post on message board but not enough to “grind it out”… weird very weird.
a "Fucking Video Game"
Me and alot of people loved SFIV with a passion and we saw and understood the nuances and complexities to the extent that we really felt that we were engaged in something more than “just a game”.
If you think street fighter is ‘just a game’ like candy crush and that people are “merely hitting buttons” then… I’m not gonna tell you to shut up, but I will tell you that you look like a moron, you really do.
And yes i’ll repeat
anybody can give a a critical opinion of something they don’t understand
but if they want the chance to be heard or taken seriously they had better have some self awareness.
I may not like Tekken, but i’m not gonna say the game sucks because I don’t know the first thing about it, it wouldn’t be my place. But if I go ahead and open my mouth anyway, how can i expect to be taken seriously and not for a fool?