This game needs more one frame links from jabs so people can be happy. Every loved getting free damage from jabs. Just jab it all.
Itâs not the calling out that was condescending, itâs your attitude towards everyone who holds an opposing opinion to you.
- YouTube and timestamp. Itâs called citing sources.
- So your friend may have beaten mine. So? What does that have to do with you? You just ducked a free $100 just to save face. Keep ducking, chump.

This game needs more one frame links from jabs so people can be happy. Every loved getting free damage from jabs. Just jab it all.
Literally no one I know and no one Iâve seen making arguments on this thread really misses the Jab Fighter aspect of 4.

Dan_The_Man:
So youâre assuming that all new players want to be fitted with training wheels they never get to take off? Newsflash, some of us want crazy hard execution and difficult tech because itâs difficult. I mean if weâre just going to keep lowering the cealing every release where is that going to take us?
Why do you assume there is no market for technical fighters? Yeah Iâm all for growing the FGC but not at the expense of enjoying them. Skill as opposed to what? Pong? Rock paper scissors? Did anyone have any difficulty going through challenge mode? Did it take you more than an hour or so to reliably hit chuns bnb?
I understand your point, I do agree to a degree. But for now lower execution barriers means that you can pick up the game, learn your BnBs easily and go online. Which results in less fighting your own execution and a shift to learning the meta game, mechanics und match ups. âGreat, but there is not much to learn about the meta, mechanics and match ups, because there is not enough depth to the gameâ, you say. I wouldnât count on Capcom leaving the game in this state until it dies, I truly believe that they will add more mechanics later on. Hopefully stuff thatâs interesting, useful and not just developed for the sake of adding more layers to the gameplay.
Their goal was to attract players new to FGs - lets pretend they succeeded with that. Those should convert to hardcore players along the way. The logical followup is to increase the complexity of the game over its lifespan to keep those players attracted. If not, there are and will be more technical fighters happily waiting.
Well nothing prevented you from going online and learning sf4 just because you couldnât do the advanced combos of every character. Some of the 1 frames were risky even if you could do them reliably thanks to lag. All this means is the skill cap is significantly lower for everyone, as opposed to there being levels that take true dedication to get to. Well of course capcom may add new features but as it stands the game is lacking for a lot of players.
Itâs sold less than they projected, less than sf4 did on launch, and itâs active player base is underwhelming to say the least. Iâll wait and see what if anything they try before I engage in wishful thinking. My problem is that street fighter has been a good series and itâs upsetting that they would go the way of easy mode in pursuit of numbers.
Are you guys seriously debating how hard instant air legs is? You know on the recent Excellent Adventures, Ricki tells Gootecks how to do it and Gootecks successfully hits it on his first try?
Itâs pretty easy. Yes, some people drop it occasionally but thatâs fine and IMO fun. Remember those sick Sako Evil Ryu combos? That shit would be routine in V.

EveryFlowerFlow:
AudricVsFood:
EveryFlowerFlow:
AudricVsFood:
Um, no. Chunâs anything as an execution reference being more difficult than âmost things in sfivâ is a ridiculous assertion. One of my homies was an execution monster in SF4, and a Chun main. Leg loops for days, watching that guy. Then in SF5 he straight up drops Chun. Says sheâs too braindead and requires no execution.
Like seriously, you donât even have to learn how to piano to do Chunâs legs. Thatâs pretty weird to me.
Instant stomp into air legs is pretty easy, too, actually.
Yeah, no. Only 2 or 3 Japanâs Chunâs can get non CH stomp legs and even they are not consistent with it. I doubt your random unknown homeboy is better than the likes of Sako and GO1.
Lol this guy and his condescension.
- Can I get a source on that?
- If you want to talk like that, youâre free to come to SD, SCR, or EVO and test our randoms. Iâd even throw in an extra $100 if you beat BeastlyBubble, my random, unknown homeboy.
You made a false claim and got called out. If thatâs being condescending so be it.
- The source is watching top Chunâs not get the move consistently and no top American Chunâs doing it period.
- I have no desire to play you or your random homeboy. Iâm pretty sure he got bopped by my random homeboy here in Nor Cal anyway at NCR. Twice.
Itâs not the calling out that was condescending, itâs your attitude towards everyone who holds an opposing opinion to you.
- YouTube and timestamp. Itâs called citing sources.
- So your friend may have beaten mine. So? What does that have to do with you? You just ducked a free $100 just to save face. Keep ducking, chump.
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Who is everyone? I have like 2 posts in this thread. You made an errant point. I corrected you. Thatâs it. What you infer about my tone is moot. SRK isnât that serious.
- The problem with playing this dumb âcite your sourceâ game is that I can throw it back at you. You show me random Chunâs going for stomp legs and getting it consistently in competitive play. You made the claim first that itâs âeasyâ after all. Lol.
- Listen to yourself. Youâre hyping up your homeboy like youâre his personal fluffer and name dropping like anyoneâs heard of him. The point is heâs not better than Sako or GO1 and since heâs not common sense dictates his opinion of ease of execution holds little weight as even the best players with Chun drop her higher execution stuff.
Iâll be at EVO to play whoever anyway, but you can keep your bummy $100.

Are you guys seriously debating how hard instant air legs is? You know on the recent Excellent Adventures, Ricki tells Gootecks how to do it and Gootecks successfully hits it on his first try?
Itâs pretty easy. Yes, some people drop it occasionally but thatâs fine and IMO fun. Remember those sick Sako Evil Ryu combos? That shit would be routine in V.
No, I was talking about instant air stomp into legs and chuns bnb with mk.SBK. Try it and see how it works out.

Are you guys seriously debating how hard instant air legs is? You know on the recent Excellent Adventures, Ricki tells Gootecks how to do it and Gootecks successfully hits it on his first try?
Itâs pretty easy. Yes, some people drop it occasionally but thatâs fine and IMO fun. Remember those sick Sako Evil Ryu combos? That shit would be routine in V.
But are people really dropping IALLs frequently? Bc the counter to someone countering your IALLs is to do a regular jump in. So maybe itâs a combination of dropped execution and intentional jumps. Honest questions lol.

AudricVsFood:
EveryFlowerFlow:
AudricVsFood:
EveryFlowerFlow:
AudricVsFood:
Um, no. Chunâs anything as an execution reference being more difficult than âmost things in sfivâ is a ridiculous assertion. One of my homies was an execution monster in SF4, and a Chun main. Leg loops for days, watching that guy. Then in SF5 he straight up drops Chun. Says sheâs too braindead and requires no execution.
Like seriously, you donât even have to learn how to piano to do Chunâs legs. Thatâs pretty weird to me.
Instant stomp into air legs is pretty easy, too, actually.
Yeah, no. Only 2 or 3 Japanâs Chunâs can get non CH stomp legs and even they are not consistent with it. I doubt your random unknown homeboy is better than the likes of Sako and GO1.
Lol this guy and his condescension.
- Can I get a source on that?
- If you want to talk like that, youâre free to come to SD, SCR, or EVO and test our randoms. Iâd even throw in an extra $100 if you beat BeastlyBubble, my random, unknown homeboy.
You made a false claim and got called out. If thatâs being condescending so be it.
- The source is watching top Chunâs not get the move consistently and no top American Chunâs doing it period.
- I have no desire to play you or your random homeboy. Iâm pretty sure he got bopped by my random homeboy here in Nor Cal anyway at NCR. Twice.
Itâs not the calling out that was condescending, itâs your attitude towards everyone who holds an opposing opinion to you.
- YouTube and timestamp. Itâs called citing sources.
- So your friend may have beaten mine. So? What does that have to do with you? You just ducked a free $100 just to save face. Keep ducking, chump.
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Who is everyone? I have like 2 posts in this thread. You made an errant point I corrected you. Thatâs it. What you infer about my tone is moot. SRK isnât that serious.
- The problem with playing this dumb âcite your sourceâ game is that I can throw it back at you. You show me random Chunâs going for stomp legs and getting it consistently in competitive play. You made the claim first that itâs âeasyâ after all. Lol.
- Listen to yourself. Youâre hyping up youâre homeboy like your his personal fluffer and name dropping like anyones heard of him. The point is heâs not better than Sako or GO1 and since heâs not common sense dictates his opinion of ease of execution holds little weight as even the best players with Chun drop her higher execution stuff.
Iâll be at EVO to play whoever anyway, but you can keep your bummy $100.
I meant in general. Just because you only have 2 posts in this thread doesnât make my assertion untrue.
- You can throw it back at me, but I asked for you to cite first, and you didnât. So the initiative actually falls on you.
- Yes, I name drop because it helps for credibility when I make my assertions. Are you mentally retarded? Iâve name dropped in every post in the same manner. And the thing is, youâre also a nobody, so going by your rhetoric, your arguments hold little weight as well.
Drop by the SD rooms, then. I assume youâll be with NorCal?

elprimero:
Are you guys seriously debating how hard instant air legs is? You know on the recent Excellent Adventures, Ricki tells Gootecks how to do it and Gootecks successfully hits it on his first try?
Itâs pretty easy. Yes, some people drop it occasionally but thatâs fine and IMO fun. Remember those sick Sako Evil Ryu combos? That shit would be routine in V.
No, I was talking about instant air stomp into legs and chuns bnb with mk.SBK. Try it and see how it works out.
Admittedly, Iâve never tried stomp into legs but I thought her bnb was pretty easy to get down. If people are dropping it in tourny, it might have something to do with the lag vs what theyâre used to. PS4 vs PC, vsync on vs off, native ps4 controller vs ps3. Regardless, itâs cool that we can think of a few things that need execution but that isnât enough to keep my interest. I donât want to play Chun Li. One character with one hard comob isnât enough to say V has execution.

Newsflash, some of us want crazy hard execution and difficult tech because itâs difficult. I mean if weâre just going to keep lowering the cealing every release where is that going to take us?
Literally no one I know and no one Iâve seen making arguments on this thread really misses the Jab Fighter aspect of 4.
SF4 linking bullshit is so good that even good players were dropping shit and the only thing that made it bearable was a glitch to essentially give us a shittier version of the buffer in 5.
The funny thing is that a lot of the stuff in sf4 were praising as technical happened because the system is sloppy.
People say Karins execution can get pretty up there too. Im sure J Wong isnât doing the optimal stuff with her at all either.
Plus thereâs definitely some 3rd Strike style one hit confirms.
SFIV was made to be easier and more accessible (it was complicated partly on accident) so no surprise it gets a bit easier. I donât see anything wrong with easy bnbs since execution can come from outside bnbs and I think people will find more stuff as the game goes on.

SFIV was made to be easier and more accessible (it was complicated partly on accident) so no surprise it gets a bit easier. I donât see anything wrong with easy bnbs since execution can come from outside bnbs and I think people will find more stuff as the game goes on.
People keep saying the meta will evolve and I feel ignorant saying this because people who said this about past games were almost always wrong⌠but Iâm not sure how the meta can evolve. Capcom actively blocks most avenues meta shifts take outside of mixups. And thatâs not a particularly interesting meta.

elprimero:
Are you guys seriously debating how hard instant air legs is? You know on the recent Excellent Adventures, Ricki tells Gootecks how to do it and Gootecks successfully hits it on his first try?
Itâs pretty easy. Yes, some people drop it occasionally but thatâs fine and IMO fun. Remember those sick Sako Evil Ryu combos? That shit would be routine in V.
But are people really dropping IALLs frequently? Bc the counter to someone countering your IALLs is to do a regular jump in. So maybe itâs a combination of dropped execution and intentional jumps. Honest questions lol.
EveryFlowerFlow:
AudricVsFood:
EveryFlowerFlow:
AudricVsFood:
EveryFlowerFlow:
AudricVsFood:
Um, no. Chunâs anything as an execution reference being more difficult than âmost things in sfivâ is a ridiculous assertion. One of my homies was an execution monster in SF4, and a Chun main. Leg loops for days, watching that guy. Then in SF5 he straight up drops Chun. Says sheâs too braindead and requires no execution.
Like seriously, you donât even have to learn how to piano to do Chunâs legs. Thatâs pretty weird to me.
Instant stomp into air legs is pretty easy, too, actually.
Yeah, no. Only 2 or 3 Japanâs Chunâs can get non CH stomp legs and even they are not consistent with it. I doubt your random unknown homeboy is better than the likes of Sako and GO1.
Lol this guy and his condescension.
- Can I get a source on that?
- If you want to talk like that, youâre free to come to SD, SCR, or EVO and test our randoms. Iâd even throw in an extra $100 if you beat BeastlyBubble, my random, unknown homeboy.
You made a false claim and got called out. If thatâs being condescending so be it.
- The source is watching top Chunâs not get the move consistently and no top American Chunâs doing it period.
- I have no desire to play you or your random homeboy. Iâm pretty sure he got bopped by my random homeboy here in Nor Cal anyway at NCR. Twice.
Itâs not the calling out that was condescending, itâs your attitude towards everyone who holds an opposing opinion to you.
- YouTube and timestamp. Itâs called citing sources.
- So your friend may have beaten mine. So? What does that have to do with you? You just ducked a free $100 just to save face. Keep ducking, chump.
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Who is everyone? I have like 2 posts in this thread. You made an errant point I corrected you. Thatâs it. What you infer about my tone is moot. SRK isnât that serious.
- The problem with playing this dumb âcite your sourceâ game is that I can throw it back at you. You show me random Chunâs going for stomp legs and getting it consistently in competitive play. You made the claim first that itâs âeasyâ after all. Lol.
- Listen to yourself. Youâre hyping up youâre homeboy like your his personal fluffer and name dropping like anyones heard of him. The point is heâs not better than Sako or GO1 and since heâs not common sense dictates his opinion of ease of execution holds little weight as even the best players with Chun drop her higher execution stuff.
Iâll be at EVO to play whoever anyway, but you can keep your bummy $100.
I meant in general. Just because you only have 2 posts in this thread doesnât make my assertion untrue.
- You can throw it back at me, but I asked for you to cite first, and you didnât. So the initiative actually falls on you.
- Yes, I name drop because it helps for credibility when I make my assertions. Are you mentally retarded? Iâve name dropped in every post in the same manner. And the thing is, youâre also a nobody, so going by your rhetoric, your arguments hold little weight as well.
Drop by the SD rooms, then. I assume youâll be with NorCal?
- The only functioning retard here is you, clearly. But here, Iâll oblige your stupidity.
0:30, 0:51 , 5:20, 9:57
That settles that then. If the best players fail to get it down 100%, that blows up your bullshit posts inherently.
- Youâre name dropping a random nobody. Who or what the fuck is a BeastlyBubble? Itâs not helping your credibility at all dumbass. Iâm mentioning top players that play the character failing to get shit down consistently. Big difference. And youâre right I am a nobody too, but ironically I likely have better tournament results than either of you.
Lol jackass.

DevilJin_01:
SFIV was made to be easier and more accessible (it was complicated partly on accident) so no surprise it gets a bit easier. I donât see anything wrong with easy bnbs since execution can come from outside bnbs and I think people will find more stuff as the game goes on.
People keep saying the meta will evolve and I feel ignorant saying this because people who said this about past games were almost always wrong⌠but Iâm not sure how the meta can evolve. Capcom actively blocks most avenues meta shifts take outside of mixups. And thatâs not a particularly interesting meta.
This is actually something I donât like myself about how Capcom is handling the game. In 1.03 Vega, Ryu and Bison lost VT OSes which fine, they said they didnât want in the game, but at the same time were not broken and added another layer of depth even if by mistake/artificial. In 1.02 Karin got stealth nerfed and lost one too IIRC. Itâs stifling a game that already kind of is rigid in terms of allowing individual expression/styles for a lot of characters way too soon. It also seems kind of random too as to who gets it removed, especially when you consider other characters still have their OSes.

People say Karins execution can get pretty up there too. Im sure J Wong isnât doing the optimal stuff with her at all either.
Plus thereâs definitely some 3rd Strike style one hit confirms.
SFIV was made to be easier and more accessible (it was complicated partly on accident) so no surprise it gets a bit easier. I donât see anything wrong with easy bnbs since execution can come from outside bnbs and I think people will find more stuff as the game goes on.
Lol J Wong rarely optimizes combos. Heâs really winning off his godlike footsies, itâs ridiculous.

AudricVsFood:
elprimero:
Are you guys seriously debating how hard instant air legs is? You know on the recent Excellent Adventures, Ricki tells Gootecks how to do it and Gootecks successfully hits it on his first try?
Itâs pretty easy. Yes, some people drop it occasionally but thatâs fine and IMO fun. Remember those sick Sako Evil Ryu combos? That shit would be routine in V.
But are people really dropping IALLs frequently? Bc the counter to someone countering your IALLs is to do a regular jump in. So maybe itâs a combination of dropped execution and intentional jumps. Honest questions lol.
EveryFlowerFlow:
AudricVsFood:
EveryFlowerFlow:
AudricVsFood:
EveryFlowerFlow:
AudricVsFood:
Um, no. Chunâs anything as an execution reference being more difficult than âmost things in sfivâ is a ridiculous assertion. One of my homies was an execution monster in SF4, and a Chun main. Leg loops for days, watching that guy. Then in SF5 he straight up drops Chun. Says sheâs too braindead and requires no execution.
Like seriously, you donât even have to learn how to piano to do Chunâs legs. Thatâs pretty weird to me.
Instant stomp into air legs is pretty easy, too, actually.
Yeah, no. Only 2 or 3 Japanâs Chunâs can get non CH stomp legs and even they are not consistent with it. I doubt your random unknown homeboy is better than the likes of Sako and GO1.
Lol this guy and his condescension.
- Can I get a source on that?
- If you want to talk like that, youâre free to come to SD, SCR, or EVO and test our randoms. Iâd even throw in an extra $100 if you beat BeastlyBubble, my random, unknown homeboy.
You made a false claim and got called out. If thatâs being condescending so be it.
- The source is watching top Chunâs not get the move consistently and no top American Chunâs doing it period.
- I have no desire to play you or your random homeboy. Iâm pretty sure he got bopped by my random homeboy here in Nor Cal anyway at NCR. Twice.
Itâs not the calling out that was condescending, itâs your attitude towards everyone who holds an opposing opinion to you.
- YouTube and timestamp. Itâs called citing sources.
- So your friend may have beaten mine. So? What does that have to do with you? You just ducked a free $100 just to save face. Keep ducking, chump.
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Who is everyone? I have like 2 posts in this thread. You made an errant point I corrected you. Thatâs it. What you infer about my tone is moot. SRK isnât that serious.
- The problem with playing this dumb âcite your sourceâ game is that I can throw it back at you. You show me random Chunâs going for stomp legs and getting it consistently in competitive play. You made the claim first that itâs âeasyâ after all. Lol.
- Listen to yourself. Youâre hyping up youâre homeboy like your his personal fluffer and name dropping like anyones heard of him. The point is heâs not better than Sako or GO1 and since heâs not common sense dictates his opinion of ease of execution holds little weight as even the best players with Chun drop her higher execution stuff.
Iâll be at EVO to play whoever anyway, but you can keep your bummy $100.
I meant in general. Just because you only have 2 posts in this thread doesnât make my assertion untrue.
- You can throw it back at me, but I asked for you to cite first, and you didnât. So the initiative actually falls on you.
- Yes, I name drop because it helps for credibility when I make my assertions. Are you mentally retarded? Iâve name dropped in every post in the same manner. And the thing is, youâre also a nobody, so going by your rhetoric, your arguments hold little weight as well.
Drop by the SD rooms, then. I assume youâll be with NorCal?
- The only functioning retard here is you, clearly. But here, Iâll oblige your stupidity.
0:30, 0:51 , 5:20, 9:57
That settles that then. If the best players fail to get it down 100%, that blows up your bullshit posts inherently.
- Youâre name dropping a random nobody. Who or what the fuck is a BeastlyBubble? Itâs not helping your credibility at all dumbass. Iâm mentioning top players that play the character failing to get shit down consistently. Big difference. And youâre right I am a nobody too, but ironically I likely have better tournament results than either of you.
Lol jackass.
elprimero:
DevilJin_01:
SFIV was made to be easier and more accessible (it was complicated partly on accident) so no surprise it gets a bit easier. I donât see anything wrong with easy bnbs since execution can come from outside bnbs and I think people will find more stuff as the game goes on.
People keep saying the meta will evolve and I feel ignorant saying this because people who said this about past games were almost always wrong⌠but Iâm not sure how the meta can evolve. Capcom actively blocks most avenues meta shifts take outside of mixups. And thatâs not a particularly interesting meta.
This is actually something I donât like myself about how Capcom is handling the game. In 1.03 Vega, Ryu and Bison lost VT OSes which fine, they said they didnât want in the game, but at the same time were not broken and added another layer of depth even if by mistake/artificial. In 1.02 Karin got stealth nerfed and lost one too IIRC. Itâs stifling a game that already kind of is rigid in terms of allowing individual expression/styles for a lot of characters way too soon. It also seems kind of random too as to who gets it removed, especially when you consider other characters still have their OSes.
Thanks for citing sources. However, if I do see you at EVO, I will break your face.
LMK where youâll be.

Dan_The_Man:
So youâre assuming that all new players want to be fitted with training wheels they never get to take off? Newsflash, some of us want crazy hard execution and difficult tech because itâs difficult. I mean if weâre just going to keep lowering the cealing every release where is that going to take us?
Why do you assume there is no market for technical fighters? Yeah Iâm all for growing the FGC but not at the expense of enjoying them. Skill as opposed to what? Pong? Rock paper scissors? Did anyone have any difficulty going through challenge mode? Did it take you more than an hour or so to reliably hit chuns bnb?
I understand your point, I do agree to a degree. But for now lower execution barriers means that you can pick up the game, learn your BnBs easily and go online. Which results in less fighting your own execution and a shift to learning the meta game, mechanics und match ups. âGreat, but there is not much to learn about the meta, mechanics and match ups, because there is not enough depth to the gameâ, you say. I wouldnât count on Capcom leaving the game in this state until it dies, I truly believe that they will add more mechanics later on. Hopefully stuff thatâs interesting, useful and not just developed for the sake of adding more layers to the gameplay.
Their goal was to attract players new to FGs - lets pretend they succeeded with that. Those should convert to hardcore players along the way. The logical followup is to increase the complexity of the game over its lifespan to keep those players attracted. If not, there are and will be more technical fighters happily waiting.
For me personally the ease of BnB execution isnât so bad
Itâs that there arenât more technical/difficult routes to take to optimize your combos further with the majority of the cast
I kind of think of it like Olympic diving or something where if you go for a more complex dive, youâre more likely to screw it up but the score ceiling might be a 9.8 instead of a 9.2 or whatever, so you get rewarded more if you hit it. Some of the anime fighters try to accomplish this by having the âmash one button and get a halfway decent bnbâ system. In SF4 having your core bnbs require 1f links or the character is useless is too extreme, there is a happy medium
In this game though I feel like there is no option to ever go for a tougher variation, itâs just only one combo option all of the time, maybe prefer stun over damage or something, but never more of both in exchange for staking more on your execution ability. I miss the Sakos of the world tucking extra links into combos

EveryFlowerFlow:
AudricVsFood:
EveryFlowerFlow:
AudricVsFood:
Um, no. Chunâs anything as an execution reference being more difficult than âmost things in sfivâ is a ridiculous assertion. One of my homies was an execution monster in SF4, and a Chun main. Leg loops for days, watching that guy. Then in SF5 he straight up drops Chun. Says sheâs too braindead and requires no execution.
Like seriously, you donât even have to learn how to piano to do Chunâs legs. Thatâs pretty weird to me.
Instant stomp into air legs is pretty easy, too, actually.
Yeah, no. Only 2 or 3 Japanâs Chunâs can get non CH stomp legs and even they are not consistent with it. I doubt your random unknown homeboy is better than the likes of Sako and GO1.
Lol this guy and his condescension.
- Can I get a source on that?
- If you want to talk like that, youâre free to come to SD, SCR, or EVO and test our randoms. Iâd even throw in an extra $100 if you beat BeastlyBubble, my random, unknown homeboy.
You made a false claim and got called out. If thatâs being condescending so be it.
- The source is watching top Chunâs not get the move consistently and no top American Chunâs doing it period.
- I have no desire to play you or your random homeboy. Iâm pretty sure he got bopped by my random homeboy here in Nor Cal anyway at NCR. Twice.
Itâs not the calling out that was condescending, itâs your attitude towards everyone who holds an opposing opinion to you.
- YouTube and timestamp. Itâs called citing sources.
- So your friend may have beaten mine. So? What does that have to do with you? You just ducked a free $100 just to save face. Keep ducking, chump.
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Pertho:
This game needs more one frame links from jabs so people can be happy. Every loved getting free damage from jabs. Just jab it all.
Literally no one I know and no one Iâve seen making arguments on this thread really misses the Jab Fighter aspect of 4.
Us purists played non jab confirmers back in the day
CvS2 had confirms from short and jabs, ST Ken had short short xx super.
SF4 borrows heavily from all the other games but it does it in weird ways.
This game does have plenty of jab confirms too, just generally 2 jab x special confirms though rather than something longer

Dan_The_Man:
Newsflash, some of us want crazy hard execution and difficult tech because itâs difficult. I mean if weâre just going to keep lowering the cealing every release where is that going to take us?
Literally no one I know and no one Iâve seen making arguments on this thread really misses the Jab Fighter aspect of 4.
SF4 linking bullshit is so good that even good players were dropping shit and the only thing that made it bearable was a glitch to essentially give us a shittier version of the buffer in 5.
The funny thing is that a lot of the stuff in sf4 were praising as technical happened because the system is sloppy.
Iâm not sure why the system being sloppy is automatically a bad thing. Super Turbo was several games smashed together to give us the glorious gem that it remains today.
Yeah, light confirms have always been a thing. The dislike for SF4 comes from it being an almost universal uniform pressure tool, the low risk high reward combos it opened up to because of FADC and seperate Ultra mechanics and the looseness of the combo system in general. Thereâs a difference between eating Jab, Jab, DP or cr. short, cr. short XX super in the older games compared to the super lengthy sequences characters could do in SF4.

DevilJin_01:
People say Karins execution can get pretty up there too. Im sure J Wong isnât doing the optimal stuff with her at all either.
Plus thereâs definitely some 3rd Strike style one hit confirms.
SFIV was made to be easier and more accessible (it was complicated partly on accident) so no surprise it gets a bit easier. I donât see anything wrong with easy bnbs since execution can come from outside bnbs and I think people will find more stuff as the game goes on.
Lol J Wong rarely optimizes combos. Heâs really winning off his godlike footsies, itâs ridiculous.
EveryFlowerFlow:
AudricVsFood:
elprimero:
Are you guys seriously debating how hard instant air legs is? You know on the recent Excellent Adventures, Ricki tells Gootecks how to do it and Gootecks successfully hits it on his first try?
Itâs pretty easy. Yes, some people drop it occasionally but thatâs fine and IMO fun. Remember those sick Sako Evil Ryu combos? That shit would be routine in V.
But are people really dropping IALLs frequently? Bc the counter to someone countering your IALLs is to do a regular jump in. So maybe itâs a combination of dropped execution and intentional jumps. Honest questions lol.
EveryFlowerFlow:
AudricVsFood:
EveryFlowerFlow:
AudricVsFood:
EveryFlowerFlow:
AudricVsFood:
Um, no. Chunâs anything as an execution reference being more difficult than âmost things in sfivâ is a ridiculous assertion. One of my homies was an execution monster in SF4, and a Chun main. Leg loops for days, watching that guy. Then in SF5 he straight up drops Chun. Says sheâs too braindead and requires no execution.
Like seriously, you donât even have to learn how to piano to do Chunâs legs. Thatâs pretty weird to me.
Instant stomp into air legs is pretty easy, too, actually.
Yeah, no. Only 2 or 3 Japanâs Chunâs can get non CH stomp legs and even they are not consistent with it. I doubt your random unknown homeboy is better than the likes of Sako and GO1.
Lol this guy and his condescension.
- Can I get a source on that?
- If you want to talk like that, youâre free to come to SD, SCR, or EVO and test our randoms. Iâd even throw in an extra $100 if you beat BeastlyBubble, my random, unknown homeboy.
You made a false claim and got called out. If thatâs being condescending so be it.
- The source is watching top Chunâs not get the move consistently and no top American Chunâs doing it period.
- I have no desire to play you or your random homeboy. Iâm pretty sure he got bopped by my random homeboy here in Nor Cal anyway at NCR. Twice.
Itâs not the calling out that was condescending, itâs your attitude towards everyone who holds an opposing opinion to you.
- YouTube and timestamp. Itâs called citing sources.
- So your friend may have beaten mine. So? What does that have to do with you? You just ducked a free $100 just to save face. Keep ducking, chump.
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Who is everyone? I have like 2 posts in this thread. You made an errant point I corrected you. Thatâs it. What you infer about my tone is moot. SRK isnât that serious.
- The problem with playing this dumb âcite your sourceâ game is that I can throw it back at you. You show me random Chunâs going for stomp legs and getting it consistently in competitive play. You made the claim first that itâs âeasyâ after all. Lol.
- Listen to yourself. Youâre hyping up youâre homeboy like your his personal fluffer and name dropping like anyones heard of him. The point is heâs not better than Sako or GO1 and since heâs not common sense dictates his opinion of ease of execution holds little weight as even the best players with Chun drop her higher execution stuff.
Iâll be at EVO to play whoever anyway, but you can keep your bummy $100.
I meant in general. Just because you only have 2 posts in this thread doesnât make my assertion untrue.
- You can throw it back at me, but I asked for you to cite first, and you didnât. So the initiative actually falls on you.
- Yes, I name drop because it helps for credibility when I make my assertions. Are you mentally retarded? Iâve name dropped in every post in the same manner. And the thing is, youâre also a nobody, so going by your rhetoric, your arguments hold little weight as well.
Drop by the SD rooms, then. I assume youâll be with NorCal?
- The only functioning retard here is you, clearly. But here, Iâll oblige your stupidity.
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That settles that then. If the best players fail to get it down 100%, that blows up your bullshit posts inherently.
- Youâre name dropping a random nobody. Who or what the fuck is a BeastlyBubble? Itâs not helping your credibility at all dumbass. Iâm mentioning top players that play the character failing to get shit down consistently. Big difference. And youâre right I am a nobody too, but ironically I likely have better tournament results than either of you.
Lol jackass.
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elprimero:
DevilJin_01:
SFIV was made to be easier and more accessible (it was complicated partly on accident) so no surprise it gets a bit easier. I donât see anything wrong with easy bnbs since execution can come from outside bnbs and I think people will find more stuff as the game goes on.
People keep saying the meta will evolve and I feel ignorant saying this because people who said this about past games were almost always wrong⌠but Iâm not sure how the meta can evolve. Capcom actively blocks most avenues meta shifts take outside of mixups. And thatâs not a particularly interesting meta.
This is actually something I donât like myself about how Capcom is handling the game. In 1.03 Vega, Ryu and Bison lost VT OSes which fine, they said they didnât want in the game, but at the same time were not broken and added another layer of depth even if by mistake/artificial. In 1.02 Karin got stealth nerfed and lost one too IIRC. Itâs stifling a game that already kind of is rigid in terms of allowing individual expression/styles for a lot of characters way too soon. It also seems kind of random too as to who gets it removed, especially when you consider other characters still have their OSes.
Thanks for citing sources. However, if I do see you at EVO, I will break your face.
LMK where youâll be.
Lol @ this herb. Whatever you say Corky. You were wrong, just hold your L kiddo, not spout oestrogen fueled emo threats of violence.

Iâm not sure why the system being sloppy is automatically a bad thing. Super Turbo was several games smashed together to give us the glorious gem that it remains today.
Yeah, super turbo borrowed heavily from Alpha 1 and Yun Air Kung Fu.