The good old days, when people needed a modicum of intelligence to make use of online interactions with other people.
Today you have people crying about everything that offends them, or making stupid image replies. Back then the worst you had to worry about was some blow hard posting “PLONK!” the sound of a troll going onto an ignore list.
Ah, the good old days. That stroll down memory lane took it out of me, I need a nap.
You guys like sf3 style, missed that game during sf4 era, you see a game somehow reminds you of 3, you put the new game on a pedestal.
You are like old school thrash metal fans, who keep getting tricked by the 45 years old front man. “we are going back to the roots,it will be our heaviest album ever!” says the old guy and the hype starts. Album gets out, which has a few weak touches of the old glorious era. In fact album is a pile of crap, nobody admits their idols are in no shape of releasing a good album. Hype continues…
“reeeds are moar important than execution you nab!”
Lets say You made a “read” in a game and daigo made that read too. Now you gonna profit from that read…
Things get different at this point. In sf5 your skill doesnt matter every one can get the best out of that situation. In 4 however after that read, you have to decide. Will you rely on your execution, take a risk to profit more? Or will you take the safer road and profit small?
Everyone can bait a dp, dont wait for an applause…
Who is putting SF5 on a “pedestal”? It has issues like every game but plays better than 4 which is why everyone old and new is converging on it. That’s it.
There’s such an overreaction to 4 in its gameplay elements. If you’re saying specific things like Yuns Red focus, then sure I’ll buy that, but half the characters in 4 couldn’t even use FADC, it cost 2 bars and could be baited hard. I played Sagat, I could get destroyed by any character with or without FADC whilst also having one myself.
I feel like the people that complained about FADC would walk up to a Ryu player on KD with 2 bars and an Ultra then act like they had no idea he was going to use it…
Same with focus, you could break focus on reaction.
The funniest thing for me is now that “footsie edition” is here, I’ve played about 5 guys in a month that can actually play footsies. If it’s not Nash backing away into a corner then making his way to the next corner, its Karin players using full screen specials or Birdie players lunging from full screen with grabs. Shit players are drawn to the easy things. Chun players using 5 cr.mk in a row at any spacing - " man, my footsies are legit!"
The games don’t make players better. You do that yourself. People talking about all the “old school” players coming back, yeah sure, and they are still getting bodied by SF4 players…
I was speaking as someone watching tournaments, not playing. I got into fighters like six years into SFIV and I refused to enter that shark tank. In watching majors I constantly noticed full meter Evil Ryus making shit safe with FADC and resetting to neutral. It killed the buzz of even having meter at all. Maybe it’s because Evil Ryu was so dominant in so many tournies for so long, but that shit was boring and commonplace. Could every character do that? No. But it seemed like the ones that could were pretty popular at the top level. I was responding to someone about how fun the game was to watch, and high execution combos + overly safe options made for a boring game to me.
i haven’t found anything hard with Dhalsim that won’t take 20 minutes in training mode to get down but Chun has some hard shit. i don’t even use her and i was practicing for hours on that cr.jab, st.mp/plink down, cr.forward xx late mk SBK.
i think more will be “unlocked” on the seasonal updates as far as combo potential. just like any SF, it’s not a done deal after the vanilla version comes out. i hope Capcom realizes (and the FGC) that there should be a mix of hard and easy execution characters. this really does help keep interest in the game and keeps it challenging and rewarding. not into hard execution? there’s some easy characters that are simple but effective. right now, it’s just a tad too easy for most characters but there are 6 more on the way so we’ll have to wait and see. i also hope they don’t keep the frame data so damn general across the board on normals and vary it in the later updates.
It’s not, came across this the other day and your post made me think of it. It’s measurably laggier in all situations, worst on the market for modern fighting games like MK/Skullgirls/SF4 etc.
really hype moments, it feels even more hype when in slow motion. that one player jumped off the trampoline, and then the other player was like imma block biatch, the crowd was like wowwww!! much hype. so depth.
True, the only things this game has that makes it similar to 3s is the art-style and Ryu’s parry which is botched to hell for the sake of balance. I have to admit that even though this game is madly inferior in terms of options and gameplay compared to 3s the more I play it the more it grows on me. Oh and Bison is boss in this game.
i don’t totally agree with this way of thinking. the 2 and 4 series may have taken things a bit too far with revisions but how else does the game evolve? constant little updates messing up all your strategies and tech isn’t fun. having major updates every 1 or 2 years makes sense because it allows players to discover ways around “cheap” shit and what seemed overpowered in the first few months so the developers can fix real problems. gotta let the game breathe. Capcom does abuse this though and there were technically 5 versions of SF4 for example, but it’s supposedly going to be much more streamlined in V. i won’t hold my breath to see if they actually don’t have some stupid money scheme disguised as a “buy only 1 version of the game”. still, i’d rather have this than little/major tweaks here and there throughout the year.
This is the type of mindset I just dont understand. You say 3s is better but do you understand that 3s is the 3rd version of the series while SFV is still on the first? Is SFV better than SF3 New Generation? Now that would be a real fair question. SF4 had 8 years of support. SFV out the gate on its first version and it already has a better foundation than the SF4 series.
That’s because you don’t understand the meta game.
There weren’t even a lot of Evil Ryu players dominating at tourneys. Daigo was pretty much the only one. Momochi and Xiao Hai used him as a counterpick. And when Daigo had full meter, he was guaranteed to go for a kara demon.
High execution is fun to watch because there is a higher chance of that execution being dropped. I mean, that’s logical. You ever see how hard Evil Ryu gets punished off a dropped combo? 1/3rd of his life, gone. Are you telling me that watching Sako combos is boring?
I honestly think you just need to spend more time playing and learn to appreciate risk/reward, technique, etc, in these games and spend less time worrying about shark tanks. When you start at the bottom, you can only move up.
Bison is actually mid to low tier. SD Pnoy thinks he’s bottom 5. Viscant is just saying, “[Bison] won’t last.”
Viscant was using Bison early on, but last I’ve seen him play he usually uses Claw or Chun now. Guess he sees walk speed and/or having a reversal as important.
