Anyone else not buying into the SFV hype?

[Mnszyk]

Yes there’s nothing more boring than a character that takes giant risks a million times a match by throwing fireballs or doing dragon punches. How could that match the excitement of a fat man doing a lot of dive kicks, or Poison doing the exact same thing, but safer.

And let’s be real, you didn’t see a lot of Rufus players because he was fat and ugly. If that same moveset had been on a chinese youth, people would have been all over that shit.

[Darksakul]

You know what be hilarious, with all the complaints, bitching and moaning over balance and who top tier
and the Winner at Evo beats everyone with the “Bottom tier” character.

And complaining who or what is broken is just scrub talk.
Put your money where you mouth is and show us what you got or shut up about it.

[Starslicer]

I’ll be beating a dead horse, but my hype for this game isn’t as high as it could’ve been. It died down along with the toning down of stuff in general during the beta period and only a few things got buffed up to my liking. I was an early adopter because of the early gameplay showcases and because the previous gen had a decent track record in terms of content, but ultimately it didn’t deliver as much as I was hoping… partially due to them deliberately removing things or making them weaker. That extended cut trailer with all those new moves that didn’t even make it to the beta still has me salty.

To not be overly negative, I will say I do like that normals as a whole are more usable because there’s no universal mechanic that nullifies them 80% of the time, I like that white chip got buffed before release, stun is visible again, the crush counter changes and I like the 3f input buffer to make links not as strict to pull off (although I wouldn’t mind regardless).

-I still don’t like the lack of damage on some normals, the weaker throws, limited options on hit due to pushback or low frame advantage, the stubby normals for certain moves (that just doesn’t make sense to me in ANY fighting game), slower walkspeeds, random frame drops, horrendous load times and no chip kills unless you burn all your bar. That’s just gameplay stuff, but even as a competitive/tournament player, I wish they didn’t handle the launch so poorly with the lack of content as well. Because all that toning down in the gameplay was for more newer players to get into it, but they defeated the purpose of that by rushing their product out in a very unattractive state. I feel they could’ve at least waited until this March update to put it out and the results/sales would be WAY more positive.

I’m more vocal about the things I don’t like because I still hope they can be improved/changed. Right now the game is “okay” to me, but I want it to be MUCH MORE than “okay”. I have a good history with SF and prefer its emphasis on the ground game and the space control around that than other fighting games, so I would rather be more excited to play it than Guilty Gear, but right now… I’m just not. Hopefully that changes because I’ll always be a SF player first before other games. It still has potential to be a lot closer to my ideal SF, but not in the state that it’s in right now imo.

^ best post in here.

[Starslicer]

I feel the game’s too simple and low on execution. There’s not much to “grind” on training or anything. You just keep playing to improve your neutral… and that’s it. The mechanics aren’t very challenging. I like the games where you have to train hard and when you’re finally able to do something hard you feel good about it.

I barely play SF5 anymore, i’d suggest you to go after Guilty Gear Xrd if you’re looking for something similar to what i was.

Pretty much.

I’m waiting on the next release later this year.

It’s like there’s not much to improve on in this game and you’ll only experience three kind of resistances in this game.

1. The experienced who know their shit and proceed to dominate you and you can’t really be mad, since they knew what they were doing.
2. Zoners.
3. People who sit there and turtle till you come into their space and strictly only punish. It’s not like they’re good or anything, but they just do the same repetitive set ups and wait for you to enter their space to repeat the loop.

The latter two wouldn’t be such an issue if this game wasn’t so rewarding off hit confirms with almost any character.

I forgot who in here tried to laugh about “lol hit confirms were in SF3”, but now that I think about it, the main big damage one hit confirms in 3s came from ken or chun. everyone had them, sure, but it wasnt as big revolving around their entire play like chun.

The game feels so underwhelming and it has you sitting there like, “Really?” when you see shit that wouldn’t fly in like any other game but this one or SFIV.

Am I the only one that has been reading this guys posts in this thread?

Not once has he pointed to a specific matchup or situation problem that he has with Ryu that makes him feel like his options are too limited to enjoy the game. The absolute closest he gets to a legitimate gameplay point is saying

I expected a lot more “in your face” gameplay and not people zoning like in IV. And at the very least if it were there, there’d be better options to punish zoners. And that just isn’t the real case here when you have some characters who have limited options and while you can get great at them, you can still have that instance where even scrubs can body you because nothing you can do works as long as they block/tech and have higher priority over everything you do (which is vastly unsafe compared to everything they do.)

Lmao, not sure I’ve ever read a single more emphatically “scrub” comment than “scrubs can body you because nothing you can do works as long as they block/tech and have higher priority over everything you do”. Literally all their moves have higher priority over everything you do? Damn I guess we are all scrubs for not all spamming this mythical 1frame heavy punch character.

Guess you can’t read since I actually laid down names a while back of bad matchups for ryu.

Also while we’re at it, i find it hilarious people like you sit around whining to defend the game whenever someone has legitimate qualms with the game but never actually have anything to really provide on the pros or data on this game.

Its always “Everybody has a weakness!” or “Oh my God, get good.”, yet these are the same people who typically hound the forum all day, easily get bodied and fail to recognize the point that just because everyone has something punishable, it never dawned on them that some characters are more favored in the game than others.

You try to over generalize or rationalize shit people say instead of taking it face value that someone says “vastly unsafe compared to everything they do” to “OH MY GOD, ALL YOUR NORMALS ARE FREE?”

Posts like this remind me how obvious it is that Donald Trump could become President because of idiotic people who speak before they think.

[drunkards_walk]

When people subscribe to threads they receive notifications for new posts. By posting 5 times in a row you are effectively spamming their profiles. But you are clearly too big of an asshole to realize that.

Jesus. No wonder OG FGC heads say SRK is soft now.

And you want to call me an asshole when you came at me with disrespect. Lol keyboard warriors at it again.

ANYWAYS, let’s keep this thread on topic. You can pm me if you’re really that bothered. Or if you’re ever in SD, you could come to my gym and we could spar it out. Or if you want to keep crying, I could get you some Enfamil for you to sip on.

Yoo how did I miss this comment earier. You’re just going down the douchebag checklist before you reply huh?

[Kwyjibo]

• You probably saw that many Ryu players for many reasons. He’s the most popular character in SF. In 4, he was the quintessential beginner character. He was balanced in just about every aspect and subsequently did well in a lot of matchups.
• You didn’t see Rufus or Poison players because those characters are fucking boring, not because their execution was difficult, because their execution really isn’t difficult.

If Rufus and Poison are boring, Ryu is watching paint dry… literally.

That’s not how you use literally.

[Shumabot]

• You probably saw that many Ryu players for many reasons. He’s the most popular character in SF. In 4, he was the quintessential beginner character. He was balanced in just about every aspect and subsequently did well in a lot of matchups.
• You didn’t see Rufus or Poison players because those characters are fucking boring, not because their execution was difficult, because their execution really isn’t difficult.

If Rufus and Poison are boring, Ryu is watching paint dry… literally.

That’s not how you use literally.

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/literally?s=t

Definition #4, fam.

[mykka]

• You probably saw that many Ryu players for many reasons. He’s the most popular character in SF. In 4, he was the quintessential beginner character. He was balanced in just about every aspect and subsequently did well in a lot of matchups.
• You didn’t see Rufus or Poison players because those characters are fucking boring, not because their execution was difficult, because their execution really isn’t difficult.

If Rufus and Poison are boring, Ryu is watching paint dry… literally.

That’s not how you use literally.

Um yeah, it is.

[Hawkingbird]

• You probably saw that many Ryu players for many reasons. He’s the most popular character in SF. In 4, he was the quintessential beginner character. He was balanced in just about every aspect and subsequently did well in a lot of matchups.
• You didn’t see Rufus or Poison players because those characters are fucking boring, not because their execution was difficult, because their execution really isn’t difficult.

If Rufus and Poison are boring, Ryu is watching paint dry… literally.

That’s not how you use literally.

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/literally?s=t

Definition #4, fam.

Changing the definition of a word over how often it’s misused is some dumb shit.

[Daemos]

• You probably saw that many Ryu players for many reasons. He’s the most popular character in SF. In 4, he was the quintessential beginner character. He was balanced in just about every aspect and subsequently did well in a lot of matchups.
• You didn’t see Rufus or Poison players because those characters are fucking boring, not because their execution was difficult, because their execution really isn’t difficult.

If Rufus and Poison are boring, Ryu is watching paint dry… literally.

That’s not how you use literally.

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/literally?s=t

Definition #4, fam.

Changing the definition of a word over how often it’s misused is some dumb shit.

Indeed. But that is the very nature of a living language, it has to evolve and change with the times - Even if we are at the nadir of times. Spoken English in 100 years could potentially be unrecognizable because of the speed at which it is evolving.

[AudricVsFood]

When people subscribe to threads they receive notifications for new posts. By posting 5 times in a row you are effectively spamming their profiles. But you are clearly too big of an asshole to realize that.

Jesus. No wonder OG FGC heads say SRK is soft now.

And you want to call me an asshole when you came at me with disrespect. Lol keyboard warriors at it again.

ANYWAYS, let’s keep this thread on topic. You can pm me if you’re really that bothered. Or if you’re ever in SD, you could come to my gym and we could spar it out. Or if you want to keep crying, I could get you some Enfamil for you to sip on.

Yo who the fuck is this cocknose and why is he trying to be an internet tough guy?

I made a mistake of posting 5 times in a row. Innocent mistake, imo. I don’t spend a lot of time on here. Whereas in other more mainstream social media, say like Facebook and Reddit, posting 5 times in a row is more of a social norm and not really ban-worthy. The way I was responded to really was uncalled for.

I could have been responded to in a more polite manner, like, “Hey, man, I’m getting notifications on this thread every time you post, so can you just put all your posts together instead of posting separately?”

OR

“Please don’t post 5 times in a row,” which is what Mr. Flowers PMed me.

So if you want to come at me with unnecessary disrespect, put your money where your mouth is.

Anyways, I’m more than an internet tough guy. In my FGC, people pretty much say I’m the dude no one wants to fight. And I’m only about 5 feet tall. If you want to spar with me, I’ll either be at Undisputed or Stronghold. If you want to money match, San Diego got weekly, bi-weekly, and monthly meetups. If you want to meet me at a major, SCR or EVO are the ones I’ll most likely be attending. If you really got a problem, you can come see me. If not, stop it with the keyboard warrior disrespect. That’s all I’m saying.

Really, though? “Cocknose?” “Internet tough guy?” Just because you feel threatened doesn’t mean you should take it as an invitation to e-thug. I didn’t even say like, “I’ll fuck you up, you stupid faggot bitch,” or something like that. Even Logansama told Hamad he was going to punch him in the mouth. I said we could spar. What I said was way less aggressive, man. Stop trippin.

• You probably saw that many Ryu players for many reasons. He’s the most popular character in SF. In 4, he was the quintessential beginner character. He was balanced in just about every aspect and subsequently did well in a lot of matchups.
• You didn’t see Rufus or Poison players because those characters are fucking boring, not because their execution was difficult, because their execution really isn’t difficult.

If Rufus and Poison are boring, Ryu is watching paint dry… literally.

That’s not how you use literally.

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/literally?s=t

Definition #4, fam.

Changing the definition of a word over how often it’s misused is some dumb shit.

Agreed. I’m actually a bit upset about that. Lol.

• You probably saw that many Ryu players for many reasons. He’s the most popular character in SF. In 4, he was the quintessential beginner character. He was balanced in just about every aspect and subsequently did well in a lot of matchups.
• You didn’t see Rufus or Poison players because those characters are fucking boring, not because their execution was difficult, because their execution really isn’t difficult.

If Rufus and Poison are boring, Ryu is watching paint dry… literally.

You’re right. Watching Daigo pull out OG Ryu at Stunfest against Tokido and Momochi was the most boring thing ever, right? And his consecutive umeshoryus against Gamerbee at Dreamhack? What about Daigo’s FT10s against Infiltration and Xian? Oh yeah, and watching Jyobin was so stale.

Sarcastic remarks aside, I like playing “standard” or “textbook” footsies. I like winning without jumping. That’s what makes the game fun to me. Rufus and Poison having walk speed, even slower than Ryu’s, made them boring for me to play. Not saying they don’t have footsies. It’s just that dive kick characters aren’t fun to me, and neither are the more stationary, zoning type characters.

And while Ryu does fall into the zoning category (kinda, not really, imo), there’s just something appealing about DPing every single jump-in the opponent attempts.

[drunkards_walk]

When people subscribe to threads they receive notifications for new posts. By posting 5 times in a row you are effectively spamming their profiles. But you are clearly too big of an asshole to realize that.

Jesus. No wonder OG FGC heads say SRK is soft now.

And you want to call me an asshole when you came at me with disrespect. Lol keyboard warriors at it again.

ANYWAYS, let’s keep this thread on topic. You can pm me if you’re really that bothered. Or if you’re ever in SD, you could come to my gym and we could spar it out. Or if you want to keep crying, I could get you some Enfamil for you to sip on.

Yo who the fuck is this cocknose and why is he trying to be an internet tough guy?

I made a mistake of posting 5 times in a row. Innocent mistake, imo. I don’t spend a lot of time on here. Whereas in other more mainstream social media, say like Facebook and Reddit, posting 5 times in a row is more of a social norm and not really ban-worthy. The way I was responded to really was uncalled for.

I could have been responded to in a more polite manner, like, “Hey, man, I’m getting notifications on this thread every time you post, so can you just put all your posts together instead of posting separately?”

OR

“Please don’t post 5 times in a row,” which is what Mr. Flowers PMed me.

So if you want to come at me with unnecessary disrespect, put your money where your mouth is.

**Anyways, I’m more than an internet tough guy. In my FGC, people pretty much say I’m the dude no one wants to fight. **And I’m only about 5 feet tall. If you want to spar with me, I’ll either be at Undisputed or Stronghold. If you want to money match, San Diego got weekly, bi-weekly, and monthly meetups. If you want to meet me at a major, SCR or EVO are the ones I’ll most likely be attending. If you really got a problem, you can come see me. If not, stop it with the keyboard warrior disrespect. That’s all I’m saying.

Really, though? “Cocknose?” “Internet tough guy?” Just because you feel threatened doesn’t mean you should take it as an invitation to e-thug. I didn’t even say like, “I’ll fuck you up, you stupid faggot bitch,” or something like that. Even Logansama told Hamad he was going to punch him in the mouth. I said we could spar. What I said was way less aggressive, man. Stop trippin.

• You probably saw that many Ryu players for many reasons. He’s the most popular character in SF. In 4, he was the quintessential beginner character. He was balanced in just about every aspect and subsequently did well in a lot of matchups.
• You didn’t see Rufus or Poison players because those characters are fucking boring, not because their execution was difficult, because their execution really isn’t difficult.

If Rufus and Poison are boring, Ryu is watching paint dry… literally.

That’s not how you use literally.

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/literally?s=t

Definition #4, fam.

Changing the definition of a word over how often it’s misused is some dumb shit.

Agreed. I’m actually a bit upset about that. Lol.

• You probably saw that many Ryu players for many reasons. He’s the most popular character in SF. In 4, he was the quintessential beginner character. He was balanced in just about every aspect and subsequently did well in a lot of matchups.
• You didn’t see Rufus or Poison players because those characters are fucking boring, not because their execution was difficult, because their execution really isn’t difficult.

If Rufus and Poison are boring, Ryu is watching paint dry… literally.

You’re right. Watching Daigo pull out OG Ryu at Stunfest against Tokido and Momochi was the most boring thing ever, right? And his consecutive umeshoryus against Gamerbee at Dreamhack? What about Daigo’s FT10s against Infiltration and Xian? Oh yeah, and watching Jyobin was so stale.

Sarcastic remarks aside, I like playing “standard” or “textbook” footsies. I like winning without jumping. That’s what makes the game fun to me. Rufus and Poison having walk speed, even slower than Ryu’s, made them boring for me to play. Not saying they don’t have footsies. It’s just that dive kick characters aren’t fun to me, and neither are the more stationary, zoning type characters.

And while Ryu does fall into the zoning category (kinda, not really, imo), there’s just something appealing about DPing every single jump-in the opponent attempts.

Can you please start posting more often, this is too priceless

[AudricVsFood]

When people subscribe to threads they receive notifications for new posts. By posting 5 times in a row you are effectively spamming their profiles. But you are clearly too big of an asshole to realize that.

Jesus. No wonder OG FGC heads say SRK is soft now.

And you want to call me an asshole when you came at me with disrespect. Lol keyboard warriors at it again.

ANYWAYS, let’s keep this thread on topic. You can pm me if you’re really that bothered. Or if you’re ever in SD, you could come to my gym and we could spar it out. Or if you want to keep crying, I could get you some Enfamil for you to sip on.

Yo who the fuck is this cocknose and why is he trying to be an internet tough guy?

I made a mistake of posting 5 times in a row. Innocent mistake, imo. I don’t spend a lot of time on here. Whereas in other more mainstream social media, say like Facebook and Reddit, posting 5 times in a row is more of a social norm and not really ban-worthy. The way I was responded to really was uncalled for.

I could have been responded to in a more polite manner, like, “Hey, man, I’m getting notifications on this thread every time you post, so can you just put all your posts together instead of posting separately?”

OR

“Please don’t post 5 times in a row,” which is what Mr. Flowers PMed me.

So if you want to come at me with unnecessary disrespect, put your money where your mouth is.

**Anyways, I’m more than an internet tough guy. In my FGC, people pretty much say I’m the dude no one wants to fight. **And I’m only about 5 feet tall. If you want to spar with me, I’ll either be at Undisputed or Stronghold. If you want to money match, San Diego got weekly, bi-weekly, and monthly meetups. If you want to meet me at a major, SCR or EVO are the ones I’ll most likely be attending. If you really got a problem, you can come see me. If not, stop it with the keyboard warrior disrespect. That’s all I’m saying.

Really, though? “Cocknose?” “Internet tough guy?” Just because you feel threatened doesn’t mean you should take it as an invitation to e-thug. I didn’t even say like, “I’ll fuck you up, you stupid faggot bitch,” or something like that. Even Logansama told Hamad he was going to punch him in the mouth. I said we could spar. What I said was way less aggressive, man. Stop trippin.

• You probably saw that many Ryu players for many reasons. He’s the most popular character in SF. In 4, he was the quintessential beginner character. He was balanced in just about every aspect and subsequently did well in a lot of matchups.
• You didn’t see Rufus or Poison players because those characters are fucking boring, not because their execution was difficult, because their execution really isn’t difficult.

If Rufus and Poison are boring, Ryu is watching paint dry… literally.

That’s not how you use literally.

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/literally?s=t

Definition #4, fam.

Changing the definition of a word over how often it’s misused is some dumb shit.

Agreed. I’m actually a bit upset about that. Lol.

• You probably saw that many Ryu players for many reasons. He’s the most popular character in SF. In 4, he was the quintessential beginner character. He was balanced in just about every aspect and subsequently did well in a lot of matchups.
• You didn’t see Rufus or Poison players because those characters are fucking boring, not because their execution was difficult, because their execution really isn’t difficult.

If Rufus and Poison are boring, Ryu is watching paint dry… literally.

You’re right. Watching Daigo pull out OG Ryu at Stunfest against Tokido and Momochi was the most boring thing ever, right? And his consecutive umeshoryus against Gamerbee at Dreamhack? What about Daigo’s FT10s against Infiltration and Xian? Oh yeah, and watching Jyobin was so stale.

Sarcastic remarks aside, I like playing “standard” or “textbook” footsies. I like winning without jumping. That’s what makes the game fun to me. Rufus and Poison having walk speed, even slower than Ryu’s, made them boring for me to play. Not saying they don’t have footsies. It’s just that dive kick characters aren’t fun to me, and neither are the more stationary, zoning type characters.

And while Ryu does fall into the zoning category (kinda, not really, imo), there’s just something appealing about DPing every single jump-in the opponent attempts.

Can you please start posting more often, this is too priceless

This coming from the guy who groundlessly asserts that chains are a better display of skill than links?

[Highlandfireball]

There’s just as much dumb shit in this game as 4 , they just made it easier to do. When you have a button that lets you freeze the screen then decide your next action depending on what’s frozen, it takes the shine off it for me a little. The whole draw of fighting games is not just positional advantage, but that I can do something under pressure that you can’t.

Playing horrendous Cammy players that spend half the round trying to v trigger confirm into critical art is really no different than someone buffering Ultra except this time you can’t miss.

Everyone on about " I fucking hate FADC!" Yet this game has that exact mechanic but better…

[Running_Wild]

I admit, I was bought in for the hype a bit early on for SFV… but now that the game has been out for nearly a month, I think the game is garbage. There’s so much janky stuff in this game and the way it’s designed, and some of those design decisions are things from Third Strike and the Street Fighter 4 series that I really dislike.

[simon]

fun to play, boring to watch

[Doctrine_Dark]

>>I’m the dude no one wants to fight
>>5 feet tall

“DOES NOT COMPUTE. DOES NOT COMPUTE. DOES NOT COMPUTE.”
-Sentinel

[Will_Diesel]

Yes there’s nothing more boring than a character that takes giant risks a million times a match by throwing fireballs or doing dragon punches. How could that match the excitement of a fat man doing a lot of dive kicks, or Poison doing the exact same thing, but safer.

And let’s be real, you didn’t see a lot of Rufus players because he was fat and ugly. If that same moveset had been on a chinese youth, people would have been all over that shit.

I’m pretty sure people didn’t enjoy Juri using her dive kick even when escaping through the air. Cammy didn’t escape the “brain dead” label and she’s not Asian as of yet.

Anyway hype is restored. I’m interested in seeing how Alex plays in this game.

[Angry_Abel]

I was hyped seeing Ryu, Ken, Bison and Charlie in early gameplay footage…but the characters revealed subsequently left me feeling flat and that feeling has just gotten worse. I’m also not a big fan of the aesthetics to be honest…

Haven’t bought the game and not sure I will this year given all the negative responses.

[Valoon]

As a guy who started one and a half year ago with IV, I like V way more.

My only problem is with combos in V.

In IV combos were hard to the point where it was crazy but in V they are very easy for 99% of them. I think a balance between both would be best.