Any tactics on how to beat this. It’s seems to be unstobable, can’t counter, can’t parry, no jd, not oven another roll cancel, hmm
learn to jump up, or away.
learn to stay out of gief’s running grab/spd range.
thats kind of obvious, what should i do just run away and never attack and lert time run out?, my main point is that maybe this game is inherently flawed and cheap, i spent alot of time on it though so i don’t know if i want to believe it
well, can’t give you any char specific strats, since i don’t know what your team is.
if you have a fireball, throw it at him, he’ll have to lariat/block it, if he lariats, you can start jumping at him and start some type of pressure string.
if you don’t have fireball, move in and out of range, whiffing jabs to see if you can bait out long sweep/rc running grab.
rc from out side throw range. stops longs sweeps/cr.fp.
punish whiffed fp/cr.fp with some long reaching move you have.
It’s gief, he doesn’t have alot of options vs you either.if you don’t jump, he can’t lariat. if you stay out of range, he’ll have to try to get in range, so you punish with something when he tries to jump/roll/move forward.
i appreciate the help but have u ever played a consistant roll cancel 360 k button zangief? and won?
yes, i have. RC 360 + k isn’t unbeatable…if it was, geif would be top teir. I mean it’s fast, but it’s not that fast.
if the guy is abusing it, bait it out and jump, then punish with a combo…and walk in and out of it’s range (as i’ve said in the last post).
welcome to cvs2, where one cheap strat is countered by a cheaper one.
here goes nothing- pick guile, sporadically press forward + fierce. throw a random sonic boom if you’re feeling risky, ggpo gief. just play smart.
Well you just have to play smarter. Depends on your character though, but usually he has a hard time getting into range for RC 360. If he’s that close he probably doesn’t need to RC anyway, so he must be doing it from a distance that you can react to. JUMP… and then hit him with the biggest combo you have.
GreenPeen, you play in NY?
Cause if you do, you must be talking about David(?).
His RC Zangief is a FORTRESS.
FORTRESS!!
i played his gief at ECC9! It was pretty tight. Definitely better than most. Though he didn’t ocv me with it…like everyone else said…you just have to play smart.
honda’s rc grab owns giefs :tup:. If you see it coming then just jump up… it’s not like gief can counter hit you while you’re in the air. The recovery frames off that whiff is long… If he does it randomly from sweep range you can jump up and land a deep roundhouse after the roll frames are gone. If he does it after a tick just make it a habit of jumping up and just throw him when you land on his whiff.
All that sounds good, but you gotta beware of Aerial Russian Slam.
Don’t just do random spurts of jumping whenever he ticks, react to the whiffed grabs.
thats all god for getting away from it, but how do you attack? that move conters every kind of attack, all those things would work if the gief player was playing stupidly and thowing it out all the damn time, if i could do that shit %100 (which of course i can’t at all) i would play smart, play hard footsies, and counter with that every time i could, i’m just trying to imagine if it was me playing with gief, not the showoff who i was playing that tried to do it every second, and yeah i play in NY but i only heard of some dude who was %100 at rc 360, i mean i have respect for it because it probably take hundreds of hours to master, but still, it’s kinda disheartening
that doesn’t sound like it would work at all?!?!
have you tried it yet? RC gief is not infallible by any means, it just takes some patience and thinking.
your problem is gief RC’ing the 360 + K move right? well gief will have to get in range for that by either walking forward, rolling, or jumping. guile’s forward + fierce counters all three of those. it recovers quick enough to throw rolls. if he RC’s lariats also, then use crouching forward every now and then. that’s why i said use forward + fierce sporadically so it doesn’t get RC lariatted all day.
OR, pick C-chun li, and standing/crouching forward into super when he whiffs a RC 360 + K or lariat. don’t try and crossup, just walk back and forth baiting whiffs. if he jumps, then use crouching roundhouse OR super jump at him and hit fierce x2 OR airthrow. if he rolls, then punish it.
again, play smart.
dude, learn to read…if he rc 360 +k you, you jump and do a jumping ATTACK.
and play smart, don’t whiff moves inside the 360+k range (ie, guile’s foward + :hp: is safe cause it’s outside of the running range)
basically, don’t jump/attack when he’s ready to 360+k you, make him do something else so he can’t rc 360+k, like doing lariats, whiffing various moves, jumping, dashing, rolling, etc.
you know this is the third time i’ve mentioned this in this thread…and everyone else who said something said the same thing… 
Standing or crouching strong, my friend.
As far as Gief goes: Stop sucking. While the RC 360+k is good, if you see his big ass walking it means you have time for one of these things:
Jump straight up, come down with a combo
Super (supers have non-grabbable frames)
back dash, then hit his recovery with something
move that takes you off the ground (be it special or normal)
oops, i was typing quick and didn’t re-read it.
see everybody at TX showdown.
As already mentionned, gief does not have a safe RC. His specials are longer than his roll, hence all his moves and RC’s can be punished, you just need patience and fast reaction.
If it was Honda doing RC 360, that would be a different story.