It is.
Now let me get something straight. Sony is going after the two hackers because they distributed the tools used to crack the PS3 right? Is that illegal for the hackers to do?
the tools to hack arent illegal…pretty sure thats how divx came so free online. if i remember correctly…they went after the hackers who created the divx prog but the courts said the tool itself isnt illegal but what you did with it to break the dvd security is.
Every day I’m more and more glad that I have a 360 instead of a PS3
Septimus would totally defend this as a critical PS3 update…lol.
I think Sony has dropped the ball so bad on this issue, and it’s not really suprising that something like this is happening. This all started because they took away otherOS. I know some people will argue that otherOS doesn’t matter, but Sony really put consumers in a weird position when it removed otherOS via update. It showed that a company could remove a feature that was there when you bought your console and that pissed off a LOT of people. It pissed me off and I don’t even use otherOS. The fact that Sony basically said “you have to update your system, which will remove this feature, in order to play new games coming out” was so fucked. And after that they went after geohot, and then wanted the i.p. addresses and info for all the people that visited his youtube channel and his site. They over stepped their bounds and now they’re getting fucked for it.
I think what’s happening with Sony and the hackers is going to be very interesting, and what happens in the court case is going to be very interesting. Sony definately stepped further than any company out there when it pulled this move, so it’s going to be interesting to see what’s going to happen.
i support these hackers even if they bring PSN down…
Sony can bully people with lawsuits, time for them to get bullied back
remember when Sony installed a rootkit on their CDs to “prevent piracy”? corporations can bend the rules, but people like geohot can’t 
God damn, I hope the suits don’t spin this shit around in order to have a tighter grip on the internet.
what is this otherOS?
They will. The problem with fights like this one is that the rebels can win a battle but never the war since they don’t have the P.R. muscle. Not only are they lacking that, a good 98% of the people don’t understand the issue well enough to care about it. In this case I’ve liked the work anonymous has done but they need new ways to talk to the media.
What I don’t understand about this legal battle is how much of a leg does Sony have to stand on after the Apple ruling on jailbreaking your iPhone. I figured that would go further down and apply to consoles since they are in a similar situation; or be analogous to car modding.
Oh well, I fully expect the future to have a bunch of ToS agreements on everything.
PS3 is linux based. OtherOS was an option in the main PS3 software that let you run an alternate operating software on your PS3. This would let you add more functionality to your PS3. Because it is Linux based, it was fairly easy to write software for it since there is a huge community writing for those types of systems already. It was removed because it could also be used to put piracy functionality into the console. Some people got mad and found a way to add it anyways; guy who found the break was sued by Sony and now we have all this nonsense.
This “cyber terrorism” by Anonymous won’t really help the case, since it just paints an even worse picture of what hackers do. It didn’t really garner much positive attention when they started doing it in support of WikiLeaks. They just got painted as a bunch of anarchists. Not that I don’t support having the option to install another OS onto the PS3, because I feel like you buy it, you should be able to do whatever you want to it as long as you are off the network… hacked systems violating TOS for online play, that is understandable, but not being able to hack them at all is ridiculous. Still, all this hacking by Anonymous won’t do anything positive IMO.
don’t they keep changing the TOS, tho?
i dunno…i enjoyed the cfw that i installed on my system when i had it…i kinda wish that i kept it. oh well.
Yeah, Sony has a really horrible record when it comes to protecting their “investments”. The root kit debacle was INSANE.
Sony really should have just done what Microsoft does. If you have a hacked system and they find out it’s hacked, you can’t get on Xbox Live at all. I don’t think anybody is against Sony protecting PSN, and kicking hacked systems off of PSN. It’s that they’re against a company using it’s muscle to basically force you to remove a feature that came with the system in order to keep it functioning in the capacity that you paid for. And that’s some fucking bullshit.
I can’t help but feel that people get confuse Lez Affair businesses with protecting the consumer, or life in general from all the nonsense companies try to pull. So much random power is getting shifted to the companies that things are looking kinda shitty for the consumer. If you bought a PS3, and you want to put spinners, a TV screen and a blowup doll that fills up when you turn on the console and gives you the thumbs up, add software that plays ride of the Valkeryes every time you win with X-factor Sentinel and lets you open up the whole system to be a better media center, then you damn well choose.
For the 600 dollars they were charging for that shit, there should’ve been a fluffer while you waited in line to buy it. A blowjob is the minimum feature you should have expected at that price range.
I agree. I’m firmly in the camp of “I bought it, leave me the fuck alone. I’ll do what I want to it.” Sony doesn’t think that’s how it should work though.
If Sony gets away with this, it will definiately set a terrible precedent that will work against the consumers a great deal.
What’s funny is that sony keeps updating it’s TOS and then want to act like it’s a contract that’s binding. I know there have been cases in europe that have basically said TOS agreements are in no way, shape, or form, enforcable as contracts. Wish they’d do the same shit here.
They’re not in the EU? Any links, sound like an interesting read. Right now TOS’s as a whole have consumers by the nuts. All pieces of software have these. I need to start reading them to see what hilarious fucked up things I’ve agreed to out of necessity.
Fuck these hackers.
Yes, Sony has really been fucking up, but this isn’t the way to go about things.
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This just reminds me how much I hate the current state of video games.
Companies have consumers by the balls and I fucken hate it. Cannot play single player games if you don’t have the internet. Cannot play multiplayer games without registering an account. Cannot play new games if you don’t update your software. Cannot do this and that.
Once the internet got involved, we basically just gave Sony, MS, and Nintendo the reigns to fuck us over.
Capcom completely fucked up with the release of Final Fight and Magic Sword. I was ready to buy it and then I read that the console needed to be online in order to play the game. One of the pieces of hardware that also bothers me that does this is the iPad, if it had open software development it would be so godlike but it is stunted by the the way software gets in there.