American Government Thread 2: RIP John McCain, 81

2 years later and we still obsessin’ over this. :joy:

I listened to NPR this morning and god damned, they’re all salty because Trump actually made the economy better last quarter. Like, they can’t even admit that he’s done SOMETHING positive. Don’t get me wrong, I still think he’s a bitch, but give the man credit where it’s due. If there’s one thing Trump can get right it’s probably going to be the economy.

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Your country is too obsessed with tribal us vs them bullshit.
No side will ever speak good of the other.

Even though I think Trump is the dumbest world leader alive, perhaps ever… Can’t deny that propping up the GDP is a positive.

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Short of starting wars or deliberately tanking industries, the President doesn’t have much direct influence on the GDP anyway. Think we had this discussion in here back before Trump even announced he was running.

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Helps to remember that A LOT of people (including myself) didn’t vote this election. I’ve had my long standing gripes with our government as well (and I continue to do so), but I’ll be voting come this November and 2020.

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cynt: I didn’t respond on that end because that wasn’t relevant to my concern. I don’t keep track of every thread. If someone asks me to help with something, I try to. If someone makes an incorrect statement, I’m not necessarily even going to notice.

chad: That’s cuz he’s making the rich richer, generally. Check out real wage growth: it’s fucked. Aaand it’s quarterly, not annual. Good quarters happen regularly. What % of that is preloading due to tariffs and borrowing-based tax cut? That sounds great now but would fuck us in the future.

That’s why Trump was lying about this today. Sure, it’s a great paper number … that happened regularly under Obama. Make it meaningful and you’ve got something to talk about. The causes of this bounce seem to be pretty negative.

I riotously disagree with you on that bit about “Trump can get the economy right”. One of my closest friends has a key role in international trade. No one in the US or outside the US understands what the fuck Trump’s “policies” are and how to work with him other than that sucking up to him works wonders. His interactions with leaders in the world economy are equally baffling: he makes light night rambling calls to industry leaders to talk about nothing and no one knows if anything will ever come of the “plans” discussed.

It’ll be very interesting to see what happens with ongoing international trade discussions: to see if his mad bull approach to the world does anything positive. Hopefully they need us more than we need them.

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You really SHOULD have responded to it, considering what he said, had that new thread not existed, completely contradicted what you were going on about. He said the thread was closed, you glossed over it and told him to post in what he thought was a closed thread. A simple note that said “there’s a new one for you to post in” would’ve gone a long way. Didn’t even need to link it, just mention it.

“Use the right thread. Just cuz this thread exists doesn’t make it the right one for your particular axe to grind.”

Wise words, right there. I’m excited about Nutella. That doesn’t instantly make this the right place to post up Nutella recipes. In fact I should probably create a Nutella thread if I can’t find an existing recipe or Nutella thread.

I didn’t know a new thread existed - I took his statement at face value - and thus couldn’t have said that.

You do really shitty metamoderation. Stop it.

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Look, I’m not trying to make this into a big thing. I’m sorry if you find someone being a helpful poster for another poster is considered The-M-Word. But if you’re saying “use the right thread”, and he says “the right thread is closed”, the response shouldn’t be “use the right thread” again. It either makes you look like you don’t give a damn about reading or you’re stupid as fuck and aren’t able to comprehend what is being said.

A little courtesy goes a long way, Preppy. Less egg on your face when someone else has to be courteous for you.

The notion that because I did not say what thread it belonged in, or point out that we have the brand new “Create a new topic” option, makes this the right thread is inane.

Aaaanyways.

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Where’s preppy now? How does this even relate to politics much less the american government?

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Godzilla vs tits shouldn’t ever be considered off topic.

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they are all very ugly.

well, it’s more about the sad state of society.

“…” ~ Akuma, SFA2

Taking care of family. PM me if you have concerns or use the flags.

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The artical didn’t say what the headline does.

The headline is wrong - dead wrong.

But so is the article in its wilfull assertion that the problems that have come after slavery, did not in fact FOLLOW from slavery… which they have, and still do.

This isn’t even taking into account the fact that the article deliberately conflates traditional slavery with the chattel slavery that occurred in the Americas.