American Government Thread 2: RIP John McCain, 81

Do note, I used to term retard, not retarded.

Retarded is a clinically acknowledged threshold of limited mental capacity.

Retards are the spawn of the last 50 years of toxic social mutagenic devolution of what it means to be American.

In fairness, that’s a right-wing bullshit claim. The source interviews that started that “controversy” pointed out that it might be a great idea to abolish ICE … and replace it with something else.

Generally speaking, when you see ridiculous stuff like that … check the source. There’s been massive amounts of disinformation spread in the past long while by certain entities. I don’t know where you got the “we want to abolish ICE” summary, but … take that source with a big grain of salt. It you heard it from here earlier in the thread… there’s a reason I was asking that poster about the source of that claim.

ICE was only formed in 2003, other agencies filled those same functions before ICE came along, and would again if it were abolished.

Personally, I kind of doubt getting rid of ICE would change anything all that much one way or another.

Why did they have to name it ICE? I mean, I know it stands for Immigration and Customs Enforcement. But ICE just sounds so damn… COLD.

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As far as acronyms go, it sounds pretty vanilla to me.

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Now you’re just being square.

Like a cube.

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Really?

Sounds like YOU.

…to a “T”. :coffee:

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Most of the conversations I’ve seen and heard about it have focused on simply abolishing ice not replacing it with anything else. I understand what you’re saying though, and I think that again it’s a symptom of one of the biggest problems with our news organizations and social media these days that are leaving out the last half of the sentence and making it difficult to understand what’s going on on that front.

There have been some people on Twitter who have advocated abolishing the organization all together and not replacing it with anything, and those are people that usually identify themselves as socialists. It generally follows the people who are in favor of open borders and of no sort of immigration policy claim the Socialist tag.

Then would you say…

…it’s a rap?

As we saw recently with James Gunn, “success” on Twitter often means that you’re being a fucking awful person*, so I’d put low credence on anything from there. Being a rational reasonable person isn’t likely to get you the subscribers and e-peen you need. If you keyboard warrior hard enough you might even become President.

*: I have found in my life that I often enjoy fucking awful people.

**: Probably in all senses of that phrase

You know as well as I do that he has a stenographer type out his tweets for his illiterate old ass.

Probably a Russian tween, at that.

Pidgen holing people with lables based on one or two of their political stances seems really counter productive and useless. Not saying you are doing this Doc Mario but generally i find when someone lables me its to easily dismiss me instead of being part of the conversation.

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Are you driving, or did pedoviejo hack your account?

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Im playing Overwatch and typing between spawns lol. Ill fix it, unlike Pedo i generally do that.

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ummmmm… wait Trump lied again?

Seriously 106 days from now we either enter the dark ages or democracy not only gets saved but someone can stand up to this straight up lying piece of shit lunatic.

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Have you ever lived in the Midwest?

I have.

Get ready for the 8-bit Sega runback.

Maybe so but those are some of the only people I’ve seen espouse those opinions ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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What kind of person would hire that kind of lawyer? The Stable Genius types?

LOVE THE TOSSING OF DEFLECTION BUILT IN THAT SOMETHING “FISHY” IS GOING ON. Gotta give something for Faux and the rest of the right-wing propaganda to run with because this is conclusive and no project verafake edited audio video.

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pretty much. it’s the bureaucratic version of corporate rebranding. for example, here’s ted cruz calling for abolishment of the irs during his presidential run. he’s not the first or only conservative to demonize and call for it’s elimination, but they all have the same problem they never address. specifically, how to collect taxes without a tax authority.

sounds easy and simple, right? wrong! while ted’s base is mindlessly gobbling down the red meat he’s feeding them. they never seem to notice that ted is real light on the policy specifics because ted has never gone beyond the rhetoric to fully game out this absurd idea. so, even if ted did get his wish to abolish the irs. he would still need a federal bureaucracy to collect the trillions of dollars in taxes, enforce the tax code, perform audits, help people fill out their post cards, etc. you know, like the irs, but with a totally different name because although he’s been filling his base with the happy talk of eliminating the irs. he still needs to collect their taxes.

journalists often ask politicians those annoying little questions the average citizen should also be asking (but often don’t) like,“if you eliminate the irs. what are your going to replace it with?”.




aid? it’s more like a payoff ahead of midterms. i wonder how much of it will end up as corporate welfare in the pockets of large agribusiness like the 2018 farm bill currently in conference? the house gop want to cut SNAP, but give away billions in subsidies to large scale farm business operations. anyway, the agricultural sector is taking a vicious beating due trump’s self-inflicted wound. it also means this trade war isn’t ending anytime soon and will probably escalate even further.

so petty. i always thought it was funny that trump and his cult members who claim to be “non-pc” and always “telling like it is” and use phrases like “triggered” and “snowflake” intended to apply to someone else, but it usually applies to themselves.


and cohen is snitching and trump is still outchea getting sauced up by thots. when trump dies someday. i hope they perform a CTE test on his brain.

Open up his head:
“Hmmm this is odd… The skull just has a hamster running in a wheel.”