American Government Thread 2: RIP John McCain, 81

Reagan was the governor of California for 8 years before he ran for president. Hardly a novice.
Bush II was the governor of Texas for 5 years before running for president.

Compared with Hillary, Trump or even Obama. They had a lot more relevant experience than them.

However Bush II was seen as stupid and racist.
Reagan was a sell out.

Ford pardoned Nixon.

It’s safe to say that most former Presidents have more relevant experience than the current POTUS.

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Whats your point?
The Democratic presidents all had something shady about them too.

You don’t go work in politics without getting some “blood on your hands”

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42% approval rating? What is your plug’s number because you’ve got to be on some shit to actually believe this.

I thought you believed CNN.

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https://twitter.com/TheBeatWithAri/status/983474329986924544

lol…trump’s meltdowns are so moist. be mad at other men rather than your own stupidity and your incompetent lawyer because your thot and her lawyer is outchea clowning on you. trump’s meltdown over comey’s book was just as moist. i read some of the excerpts and unsurprisingly trump looks like an unhinged clown. his meltdown at comey didn’t help his case.

the DoJ told congress the bill is so poorly drafted that it would actually make it more difficult to prosecute sex traffickers. they also called into question whether or not the bill was even constitutional. nonetheless, the technologically ignorant congress ignored the DoJ and passed it anyway for an opportunity to politically grandstand. i would expect a court challenge in the near future.

yeah, he finally fessed up after months of rumors. lol…i guess trump broke him. in any case, why would he stay? all i see are cons.

1)he never wanted the job. he likes to thinks of himself as a jack kemp style, policy wonk. in fact, the only reason he became speaker is because kevin mccarthy could’t win and ryan was the only choice acceptable to the various gop factions.
2) the gop house is even more fractured and bat shit crazy thanks to trump.
3) he’s not optimistic about midterms. which mean he’ll lose the speakership.
4) he not going to accomplish much more. yeah, he can point to his big tax cut, but he made his name on addressing entitlement reform and trump isn’t interested. he also can never claim to be a fiscal conservative ever again thanks to the deficits his party created.
5) ryan is not even 50. he will likely for higher office in the future. staying in congress does his rep no favors.

talk shit to russia on twitter, but stay quiet when your thot’s lawyer is outchea flexin and shitting on you, breh
https://twitter.com/MichaelAvenatti/status/985183946496462849
https://twitter.com/MichaelAvenatti/status/985096562677297153
https://twitter.com/MichaelAvenatti/status/984969463249416197

well, like i said he likes to thinks of himself as a jack kemp style, policy wonk. however, jack kemp would have never held his tongue like ryan if the president was praising neo-nazis, endorsing child molesters, etc. ryan likes to thinks of himself as a traditional small government, free trade, fiscal conservative. lol…trump and his stans pretty much destroyed that myth for ryan and other traditional conservatives in the gop.

i like how he illogically complains about leakers and then pardons a leaker.

that’s what happen when one becomes a culture warrior. $1.50 raises seem like a sweet deal.

did trump ever give you the impression he cared about any of those things more than he cares about trump? does his stans look like they know or care about policy?

Didn’t vote for Trump, but throughout his 1 1/2 year term, he’s turned me over. As I said many, many, many pages and whatever back. The extreme leftist and liberals have made me switch, however more importantly my own moral and personal opinions naturally changed to a position that was no longer Democratic.

No I’m not a Republican, I’m definitely now more Conservative than anything else and I’m really looking forward to the Mid-Terms, should be interesting.

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So you side with trump’s lack of morals?

How often do you fuck your sister?

Gee this loaded questions thing is fun and makes for constructive debate.

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There’s a big difference between being governor of one state and being president of all 50. Now, i can say that Reagan and Bush II had more relevant prior experience than Trump does, but ultimately, they did what they we’re told. They had smarter, more experienced people around them and they both probably knew they were a bit in over their heads in terms of political and legal knowledge compared to someone who’d studied law or had served on the Hill for decades.

The Clintons and Obama were lawyers which id say is important, but they also served ON Capitol Hill before they ascended so they were familiar with the working of the federal government in a way someone being governor simply couldn’t be. Which isn’t to say someone can’t be a good president without serving on the Hill but I think that experience makes you more aware of legal and political possibilities and allows you to have your own opinions rather than just relying on third party info from people who may not necessarily care about doing the right thing.

He specifically said trump turned him

So he appreciates, lying, gouging, bigotry, etc. all his dumbass off the cuff moves

That is what turned him

I am more moderate and do hold some conservative views

Trump has taken office and destroyed any semblance of respect for that position

America is a joke

Trump will soon indict himself, and with repubs retiring in droves we could see the first real impeachment and incarceration ever

Seriously if all this leads to trump getting off, the dems would lose it all. The gop already all in with racism and conspiracy theory bull shit and calling children with ptsd nazis

Seriously fuck the republicans

lol No way

THIS IS THE DEEP DEEP DEEP DEEP DEEP STATE

https://twitter.com/eorden/status/985953454668570630

WHO’S THE THIRD MAN?

HANNITY NOOO

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Sorry, I haven’t been following as of late. Why is this a big deal?

History classes for future generations will be like political thrillers.

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https://twitter.com/FullFrontalSamB/status/985957829235412992

No he will bring back the Seth Rich fabrication or go into a hour long rant about the “deep state” or somehow this is Clintons or Obamas fault or just go full Trump and claim FAKE NEWS(already has).

Seriously I am hype to watch this shit show in just a bit.

This entire situation with morons not admitting Trump is a lying POS at this point feels like a lame reality show that gets cancelled after one season.

It appears that Hannity, Assange, Trump, and the Russians colluded together to try fuck the Democratic party and get Trump elected. On top of that, Trump and Hannity have been using a Arrested Development-level lawyer. It is likely, based upon the warrant, that Bob Loblaw Cohen may have been seriously abusing the concept of attorney-client privilege, to the point of quite possibly losing his law license, and the subjects under A-C privilege being subject to exposure as parts of criminal enterprises that seem to be being looked into by the Mueller team, if not also New York State agencies to help prevent against perverse use of the Presidential pardon.

I think it is currently unclear what crimes Cohen is believed to have been trying to cover up, but Hannity being identified as one of Cohen’s clientele is eye-popping news. It’s one thing to be unseemly, it’s another to be functionally state media, and it’s quite another to potentially have committed criminal actions to get your puppet elected.

I am not a lawyer, but this is fucking fascinating. The Fox News addicts help allow the Republican party to not have to follow the rules of governance. This gets us where we are now, whereas I think back in the Nixon era Trump would have been out the door. But because of that same resistance to … the law of the country, the investigators have simply gotten deeper and uncovered more fascinating shenanigans.

I expect more perverse use of the Presidential pardon. Aaaand once he does that, the recipient loses their fifth amendment shield, so it gets to be even more of a clusterfuck.

So trump reverses on the russian sanctions and fox goes quiet

https://twitter.com/HuffPost/status/986201368204578816

Good for them and its about time. Funny how only InfoWars and Faux have to deal with defamation lawsuits.

I’m just glad Trump is here to expose the bullshit “moral/family values” that the Republican party has peddled for years and years… Even though we all knew it was bullshit, it’s clearly in the limelight now.

Despicable human beings.

(Don’t get me wrong, there are normal republicans that actually care about human beings, but the current group of toxic rats are the problem)

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i like how one report described the reaction in court when it was revealed hannity was cohen’s client.



lol…anyway, it’s amazing how mr-i-only-hire-the-best-people surrounds himself with crooks and dummies. this wouldn’t have even been a thing for hannity if he just mentioned it before the story broke. trump stan alan dershowitz even thinks he should have disclosed that info.
https://twitter.com/JuddLegum/status/986052009383034881

trump has always been putin’s knob polisher. actually, he undercut his own US ambassador and blocked his own administration plans to sanction russia. either way, it’s a retarded way to handle what should be a simple policy roll out and more proof of a WH in chaos. however, he did flip flop on TPP and once again on china being a currency manipulator.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/985858100149309441
https://twitter.com/voxdotcom/status/986163607619751936

speaking of crooks and dummies, EPA snowflake, Scott “the swamp drainer” Pruitt, needed to spend even more taxpayer dollars to install bulletproof seat covers for his new government suv. the cost is in addition to his 24-hour security detail which includes 19 agents and includes a fleet of at least 19 vehicles and cost millions not to mention his first class travel arrangements and secret phone booth.

lol…does anyone think trump actually did the math to prove that statement?
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/982770847046922240

apparently, even a gop congressmen thinks pruitt is bytchmade.
https://twitter.com/FoxNewsSunday/status/985518916029112320

speaking of the the snowfake caucus, san antonio spurs trump stans were triggered and felt insulted by head coach popovich comments about trump. they think they deserve an apology instead of getting clowned on by popovich.

popovich comments. trigger warning, snowflakes!!!
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Since the presidential campaign, Popovich has shared his disdain for Trump. He has called the United States “an embarrassment to the world” and the president a “soulless coward” and a “pathological liar.” The veteran coach is disgusted by comments he called “xenophobic, homophobic, racist, misogynistic” — “and I live in a country where half the people ignored all that to elect someone. That’s the scariest part of the whole thing to me,” he said after the election.
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trump stans comments. comedy gold.

https://twitter.com/anthonyVslater/status/986048352558067712

pop doesn’t seem to give a fuck. but hey, who can resist clowning on a duck? besides, these people should be used to it by now. trump, gop donors and corporations all clowned on trump stans and bumping this after selling that “middle class” tax cut

and trump stans outchea celebrating $1.50 raises.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/sports/wp/2018/04/16/insulted-pro-trump-spurs-fans-feel-forced-to-choose-between-their-team-and-the-president/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.b623db93aac0