American Government Thread 2: RIP John McCain, 81

[ShinjiGohan]

The second amendment is the NRAs biggest weapon against increased restrictions.

The right to bear arms is in the constitution.

It doesn’t specify what arms though and when it was written the arms they had at the time are not suitable for mass shootings.

The right to bear War of Independence-era arms would completely change the gun landscape

Actually they had several guns that could be used for mass shootings at the time. It wasn’t all muskets, though when you have some democrats citing to ban muskets because they could be used for mass shootings, it becomes obvious that they don’t know what they’re talking about. From the puckle gun to a proto type of what would later become the gatling gun. But yeah lets ignore those inconvenient examples. Or that the government allowed a civilian to basically purchase at the time would be considered a war ship and acted as a privateer protecting the coast of the USA from pirates and other foreign foes.

[odin]

Dotard going hard on video games and movies… Doesn’t even know they have a rating system.

Donald Trump blames violent video games for 'shaping young people's thoughts'

“I’m hearing more and more people say the level of violence on video games is really shaping young people’s thoughts. And you go the further step, and that’s the movies. You see these movies, and they’re so violent. And yet a kid is able to see the movie if sex isn’t involved, but killing is involved, and maybe they have to put a rating system for that.”

[Starhammer]

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-02-21/expand-u-s-voting-rights-to-teenagers

*Joshua Douglas argues that the Parkland students organizing against gun violence are a great demonstration of why 16- and 17-year-olds should be allowed to vote. See his recent law review article here.

This is one of my longtime hobbyhorses, and so I certainly agree. Indeed, I’d go lower, setting the voting age at 13 or 14, although I’m open to arguments for making it a bit higher or lower. Sixteen, however, is to me an easy call.

Part of my case for young voting that Douglas doesn’t mention in his column is that, for me, voting is the training wheels of political participation. And yet we not only allow more sophisticated political action from high school students – everything from organizing marches to lobbying their legislators to electioneering – but we also generally encourage and praise it. The plain fact is that these sorts of activities, which no one has ever suggested banning as far as I know, are more difficult and more influential than single votes can ever be. So why should we prevent them from voting?*

Soooo…we really seeing become a serious topic?

It’s only serious for the democratic side. They know that march 5th is the end of DACA, and the end of one of their biggest voting bases. Now they have to try to reach a new group, which is the youth of America.

American youth. The same people who brought us such gems as the the knockout game, the tide challenge, and now this. http://hollywoodlife.com/2017/07/12/blue-whale-challenge-why-teens-committing-suicide-game/

This isn’t a new thing and it isn’t exactly a foolish thing to try to,“Get 'em while they’re young”. Everyone knows that kids are naive and will do what you want if you give them enough candy. Whenever someone wants sympathy for their cause, just use kids. It’s as old as…well, probably everything. They claim to be about the safety of children, but don’t do so well when put to the test. Kids getting killed in school, being bullied, being bought and sold into a life of sex slavery, If they were making these into their talking points, the dems wouldn’t have such a problem getting votes.

…And they may want to stop being found guilty of these things too. :wasted: “Grabbing a pussy”? Bill Clinton and The Podesta brothers probably got a laugh out of that.

-Starhammer-

[odin]

American youth. The same people who brought us such gems as the the knockout game, the tide challenge, and now this. http://hollywoodlife.com/2017/07/12/blue-whale-challenge-why-teens-committing-suicide-game/

The same youth that posts pro-Nazi shit on 4chan and chats it up with Russian bots on The_Donald about how great the God Emperor of the USA is. Guess the world is fucked.

[Pertho]

By all accounts, the blue whale challenge was not started in the US. It got traced to some easten european country.

Are we about to get a lefty starhammer? Inquiring minds want to know.

[Pertho]

It’s only serious for the democratic side. They know that march 5th is the end of DACA, and the end of one of their biggest voting bases. Now they have to try to reach a new group, which is the youth of America.

WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court on Monday declined to clear the way for the Trump administration to end the Obama-era program that protects about 700,000 young immigrants from deportation, meaning that the so-called “Dreamers” could remain in legal limbo for months unless Congress acts to make their status permanent.

President Trump ended the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, or DACA, program last September, calling it an unconstitutional use of executive power by his predecessor and reviving the threat of deportation for immigrants who had been brought to the United States illegally as young children.

But two federal judges have ordered the administration to maintain major pieces of the program while legal challenges move forward, notably by requiring the administration to allow people enrolled in it to renew their protected status. The Supreme Court’s decision on Monday not to hear the government’s appeal will keep the program alive for months.

That will temporarily shield the young immigrants who already had signed up for the DACA program from immediate deportation, and allow them to keep working legally in the United States. Their status lasts for two years and is renewable.

The court’s decision also could relieve the immediate political pressure on lawmakers to permanently address the status of those immigrants, or to deal with the additional one million Dreamers who had never signed up for the DACA program. They remain at risk of deportation if immigration agents find them.

Even as he ended the DACA program last September, Mr. Trump had called upon Congress to give the young immigrants legal status, and an eventual path to citizenship, before the program was scheduled to expire on March 5.

But that proposal has bogged down in partisan gridlock as members of Congress argue about broader changes to the nation’s immigration system that the president and his conservative allies in Congress have demanded as part of any deal to address the future of the young immigrants.

Earlier this month, senators failed to reach consensus in a series of votes on bills to address the Dreamers and other immigration issues. A bipartisan coalition in the Senate roundly rejected a measure backed by Mr. Trump that would have all-but ended the family-based migration system that has been in place for decades. A separate bipartisan measure that would have legalized the dreamers and allocated $25 billion for a border wall fell six votes short of the 60 needed to proceed to a final vote.

If the Supreme Court had decided to allow the Trump administration to formally end the program on March 5, lawmakers would have been facing a difficult challenge to resolve their ideological differences by next Monday. That would have been even more difficult because lawmakers are also grappling with how to respond to the Florida school shooting.

Now, the court’s action is likely to push the debate beyond the midterm elections in November, as lawmakers in both parties often seek to avoid making highly controversial policy decisions just before they face their constituents at the ballot box.

Supreme Court Turns Down Trump’s Appeal in ‘Dreamers’ Case

So what about that March 5th date? wait, hold up, let me see if I can find a youtube video because you can’t be bothered to read or keep up with actual news.

[odin]

Just wait till he shows your dumb ass a vid featuring a scrawny trenchcoat wearing InfoWars watching freak saying otherwise.
Then you will LEARN the TRUTH.

[dab00g]

Seriously responding with that nerd who spouts infowars info does not make your point

Yt videos are the worst, just link your information and tidbits that prove your points

Did they not teach mla format back in the 80’s when starhammer was in highschool

[Darksakul]

The second amendment is the NRAs biggest weapon against increased restrictions.

The right to bear arms is in the constitution.

It doesn’t specify what arms though and when it was written the arms they had at the time are not suitable for mass shootings.

The right to bear War of Independence-era arms would completely change the gun landscape

Actually they had several guns that could be used for mass shootings at the time. It wasn’t all muskets, though when you have some democrats citing to ban muskets because they could be used for mass shootings, it becomes obvious that they don’t know what they’re talking about. From the puckle gun to a proto type of what would later become the gatling gun. But yeah lets ignore those inconvenient examples. Or that the government allowed a civilian to basically purchase at the time would be considered a war ship and acted as a privateer protecting the coast of the USA from pirates and other foreign foes.

A lot of people forget the earliest of fully automatic weapons did exist during the writing of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights
its a primitive gun by todays standards, but its existence is already widely known

[Xvideos]

Monica Lewinsky’s trying real hard to get back in the game

Monica Lewinsky: Emerging from “the House of Gaslight” in the Age of #MeToo

[Pertho]

snip

Fun Fact: I used to be neighbors with Beto O’rourke.

Cool guy.

[odin]

The same man saying this

"You don’t know until you test it, but I really believe I’d run in there even if I didn’t have a weapon,” Trump told a gathering of governors at the White House. “And I think most of the people in this room would have done that, too.”

Has said this

“So, you have all these really rich people, and a man, about 80 years old - very wealthy man, a lot of people didn’t like him - he fell off the stage. So what happens is, this guy falls off right on his face, hits his head, and I thought he died. And you know what I did? I said, ‘Oh my God, that’s disgusting,’ and I turned away. I couldn’t, you know, he was right in front of me and I turned away. I didn’t want to touch him. He’s bleeding all over the place, I felt terrible. You know, beautiful marble floor, didn’t look like it. It changed colour. Became very red. And you have this poor guy, 80 years old, laying on the floor unconscious, and all the rich people are turning away What happens is, these 10 Marines from the back of the room. They come running forward, they grab him, they put the blood all over the place—it’s all over their uniforms—they’re taking it, they’re swiping [it], they ran him out, they created a stretcher. They call it a human stretcher, where they put their arms out with, like, five guys on each side. I was saying, ‘Get that blood cleaned up! It’s disgusting!’ The next day, I forgot to call [the man] to say he’s OK. It’s just not my thing.”

hahaha Can you imagine Trump risking any semblance of his life running into a school with a shooter? hahahaha And even if he didn’t have a weapon hahahahaha

Starhammer how can you keep supporting this twit? hahahahah

[BR3N7]

Trump said he would of ran into the school unarmed. I present to the court exhibits A-Z why Trump would of shit himself and ran.

Trump vs Mexican Music PERSONAL FAVORITE even if fake!

Trump vs Unarmed Protesters real

Trump vs fucking Eagles.

[odin]

We know he’s a snowflake pussy bitch.

Which makes it that much more funnier.

[MCP]

Starhammer getting pounded lol! Thanks for the laugh guys.

Also Trump trying to repeat the Fox News talking points re DACA.

1. “DACA was an illegal executive order by Obama!” -Fox news (yet it was upheld by the courts already).
2. Supreme court bashes Trump for trying to say that the DACA EO was originally illegal. It’s fucking legal and those nitwits just fucked up.
3. Now Democrats don’t have to worry about DACA going away on March 5th and gain a huge leverage opportunity.
4. Trump check mates himself because he’s so fucking stupid he doesn’t know chess is only 2D, and it’s complex.

I’m looking forward to Starhammers youtube video featuring a trenchcoat wearing, 4channer, redpill, TheDonald regular, who sucks on the withered teet of Russian twitter propoganda and lies in bed at night feeling special that they’re “Woke As Fuck”.

Or that cartoonist who is out of touch with reality.

[odin]

hahaha You mean Ben Garrison?
Drawing Dotard like a muscular 239lb machine.

[Bomberman3000]

Here’s a better pic:

[Starhammer]

By all accounts, the blue whale challenge was not started in the US. It got traced to some easten european country.

Are we about to get a lefty starhammer? Inquiring minds want to know.

Dammit, we’re spreading out and infecting other countries now? :bluu:
I’ll become a lefty if they give me reason to switch sides. Whichever side can do the best for me and the country is the side I want to be on.

Starhammer how can you keep supporting this twit? hahahahah

https://media1.giphy.com/media/AMJL5dMqqxNL2/giphy.gif

How? Because Trump came in with a plan. He ran on it, he won, and surprise, He’s actually DOING the shit he said, despite the amount of resistance he has gotten. Besides, without him in office, we wouldn’t have gems like this.

Spoiler

https://i.imgur.com/l9mMr6Z.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/PEyibLo.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/rhaTLRd.png

That’s just what I had on hand. The amount of hatred brought up since the election has been incredible. “Trump has to go!!! NEVER TRUMP!!” etc. Not that they have a single plan in mind as to what to do if they should get rid of him, just get rid of him!! There was an actual movement called,“Vote Trump Get dumped” which I only learned about because of a friend of mine. If he had voted for Trump, his wife would have DIVORCED him. Yes, DIVORCED him. :wtf: What kind of stupid fucking shit is that? Not infidelity, not abuse, not “falling out of love” with him, not for crimes too horrible to ignore, not any of that. No, just because of who he voted for. Last I heard, he died around Dec 1st. and nobody seems to know why.

In case you’re wondering, it’s this same blind, stupid ignorant hatred that got Trump elected. Keep it up and you’ll be seeing him win again in 2020. Trying to shame, blame, guilt trip, call people all kinds of “ists” and “Phobes” didn’t work before and now that the pathetic trick is exposed, it will have even less effect the second time.

How can I support him? Who exactly are YOU supporting? Whatcha got man? C’mon. I keep hearing how he’s stupid, incompetent, etc. But they say the same shit about EVERY president. If they had social media back when George Washington first took office, I’m sure there would’ve been memes of his face photoshopped onto some planet of the apes character with some witty saying under it. :rolleyes: Every year, the same old song. My problem is this: I never hear shit else. You and the rest of the scratched record possee keep playing the same tune, but it isn’t winning any new listeners. Trump? He’s Getting shit done. Just tell me what the other side is getting done, other than self-destructing at an unheard of pace. The DNC is losing faster than Trump is winning, so I guess that’s something, but I wouldn’t call it something worth bragging about. Still, I have hope for them. After all, even the Mulkeys won a match, so the DNC shouldn’t give up. Just…Change tactics. The game before ain’t the same no more. Trump ain’t playing that game and whether they like it or not, he IS the President of the United States of America. You thought he was a pretend pimp? That’s not your dusty pussy he’s grabbing, that’s your nuts, and the vice grips are squeezing harder and harder.

Look. I’m not mad because ya’ll are dissing the guy, I’m just saddened because it’s the only thing you’re doing. You have nothing, you’ve shown nothing, you’ve done and said NOTHING. If Trump were to be removed from office today, you would have NOTHING. If you could just Game Genie him out of the picture, who would you put in? No answers? Nobody? Of course not. You are not happy now and you won’t be happy later. All you do is cry about shit. You don’t stop crying. It’s all I’ve heard since the election, but only because of the election have I noticed how long the whining has been going on. For years upon years prior to Trump, it’s been the same ol self-absorbed crying over anything and everything. Everything’s sexist, everything’s racist, EVERYTHING is offensive, etc. No wonder the doctors think I’m crazy. I don’t cry. If this is society, then I guess I really am a sociopath. To be honest, it isn’t as bad as the old folks made it sound. Maybe, just maybe life wouldn’t be so bad for a lot of you if you’d just get in touch with your inner insanity. Trust me, it isn’t as bad as you think.

-Starhammer-

[chadouken]

No wonder the doctors think I’m crazy.

It all makes sense now.

[Shin_Jr]