American Government Thread 2: RIP John McCain, 81

Lol, he is now forcing the dems to go into a shutdown

The republican leadership are inept

yeah, itā€™s the ā€œshithouseā€ defense and even trump is on it. lolā€¦i guess the gop is thinking if they split enough hairs over a detail. they can change the optics and make trump look like an obese, short-fingered vulgarian rather than a racist, obese, short-fingered vulgarian thereby protecting him from a politically damaging comment. lolā€¦hilarious because watching these people making weak excuses and allowances for trump only serves to make them look completely ridiculous.

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https://twitter.com/NickKristof/status/951878985876721665
https://twitter.com/scottwongDC/status/953305502183763969
https://twitter.com/EWErickson/status/952569551450976257
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/951793123985973248
lolā€¦even trumpā€™s beloved fox and friends were copping pleas for trump.
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although, it never gets old watching cult45 stan for an idiot. itā€™s not the democracts fault that trump does dumb shit. nonetheless, i love the way trump makes the snowflake caucus judgement look even more suspect.

first time in us history where one party controls congress and the WH and facing a government shutdown because they canā€™t get a budget deal in part because of trumpā€™s idiocy.

add it to the enormous pile of trumpā€™s misleading claims. trump just broke more than 2,000 false or misleading claims over 355 days. an average of more than 5.6 claims a day. trump stans still believe anything that come out of his mouth. dude jacks up more lies than steph curry jacks up 3 point shots. lolā€¦be a duck and donā€™t know it.

The thing is, and this is a particularly salient point in the US concerning this type of discussion, when the arc of history has driven most of the members of a given race into a specific social class racism and class-ism become functionally the same thing.

I think it is actually their mid-term strategy- causing something they can blame on the Democrats gives them a selling point in an election season where they donā€™t have a whole lot of other ways to pitch themselves.

Considering that the right wing doesnā€™t give Trumpā€™s words credibility at this point, Iā€™ll presume youā€™re joking.

I know that you can barely read, and that that limited ability is something to cherish after the hellish Australian Water Wars of 2015, but you probably donā€™t need to advertise your inability to comprehend those little squiggly pictures real Americans call letters.

Yeah, I find discussions to be especially fruitful when one side has a reckless disregard for science and honesty. #bothsidesthesame #therearenolieswhentherearenotruths #cleanbill #niceeditedtranscript

Iā€™m imagining if all this pornstar stuff came out with Obama instead of Trump.
The religious right would be marching in the streets claiming that such an immoral disgusting BLACK man shouldnā€™t be leading your great country.

I think the hypocrisy of religious zealots is what pushed me away from religion in the first place. Fuck em forever.

The good thing about it is that crazy evangelicals are making themselves out as racist, xenophobic, bigots that ww already knew they were.

There are many religious people who are resisting

Still hard to believe that Obamaā€™s worst personal attack (that had merit) was that damn tan suit. Can we get back to that being the most well-founded crime in a Presidentā€™s personal life?

Oh lord, donā€™t let this fool have to appoint a Supreme Court justiceā€¦

You mean another? :coffee:

Republicans are always gonna real petty bitches by blocking out Garland to the SCOTUS after that fat arsehole Scalia bit the dust.

Rich white men are gonna hold on to their power until their knuckles and fingers are bleeding and crushed to the bone.
And poor Americans are gonna keep holding on to their pride and nationalism in the same way as they are being treated like dirt.

Supposedly Sotomayer is fine after a low blood sugar incident. crosses fingers

I feel like Clinton not being elected President was one of the best things that could happen for the country long term, even if we get to suffer for it now and later. So much stupid plutocratic nepotistic unethical bullshit going on itā€™s going to be hard for any Republican to ever claim the high ground again.

I for one look forward to 2021.

Depends how much brainwashing the Russians will have done by that time to people like Starhammer and ParryAll.

They never had the high ground but now itā€™s well and truely gone. Where are the calls for impeachment like Clinton?

The Republicans have harmed the long-term credibility of the party with Trump.

Even Fox is turning on em.

Thought this nigga was a master negotiator?.. Oh wait this around the same time he always files for bankruptcy and walks the fuck away when he fails which is pretty much 99% of the timeā€¦

At least he is finally the best something in allowing a GOVT to shut down when he has all 3 branches. #thatsafirstā€¦

Gotta love the deflection story popping up today in the release the memoā€¦ Except Trump has the power to do just thatā€¦ God these Trump supporters really are fucking straight stupidā€¦ Got niggas above thinking(problem is just that in letting these idiots think) Trumps SCJ is a good thing. Hope he ends up getting hurt because of a companies negligence and tries to sue and ends up losing while a billion dollar corp wins.

I think by showing how hollow and racist the gop are, he has damaged the republican party as a ruling party.

If they were organized evil i might respect the game, but it is just divisive race wars

Nobody is forcing the gop to stan for trump, but they do it

Tucker Carlson and Hannity openly spew racist rhetoric on fox news to appeal to their racist base

And there you have it. The Democrats playing that 5D chessā€¦have a man be in office under the republicans that the majority of people hate so much that the Dems will regain power for the rest of time. That was the plan all along.

Thatā€™s not at all where @Preppy was going with that. If Clinton was elected, weā€™d have a continuation of the status quo. Politics would just be background discussion up until 3 months before an election cycle. With Trump, heā€™s gotten people to speak more openly about politics daily, which is how it should be. His ignorance actually helps guide some pretty heated discussion on issues that may not have gotten as much attention. The great thing about this information age is that everything can be recalled in a fraction of a second, allowing politicians on both sides to be held accountable for the things said. People are taking the time to understand what these people in DC actually do and can now see them for who they really are. Given this administrationā€™s approach to take down mainstream media allows for people to seek out the truth. This will create a more informed electorate thus creating a better legislature. In a very twisted way, Trump could be one of the best things to happen in politics.