American Government Thread 2: RIP John McCain, 81

The left/Democrats are the main ones who should be blamed for Trump getting elected and for the shift towards extremism. Pew research shows that left leaning people have been shifting further and further left over the last couple decades, and the shit the right has been pulling is largely a reaction to all that. The “… To own the libs” meme is a really good example of this, and is also a reason why a lot of folks voted for Trump, because elitist and cultish coastal lefties can’t get through a day without shitting on people in middle america and calling them racists/sexists/etc whether they are or not juat because they don’t agree with them.

The Democrats couldn’t even see it to put up a worthwhile candidate that people actually liked, and instead, rather than confronting the real reasons why she lost what should have been a slam dunk election, decided to slough it off by saying people didn’t vote for her because they’re sexists. Fuck that. There are several well qualified women who could have run but instead we got Hillary, who thought it was “her turn.” Even Elizabeth Warren would have been a better choice.

So I place the blame squarely on the shoulders of the Dems and the left for this. Trump sucks and so do the Republicans, but the Dems/left played themselves, the reps just them do it. I’m left wing, more centrist but still left and what the left has become is what’s responsible for the country tearing itself apart.

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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-10-04/the-big-hack-how-china-used-a-tiny-chip-to-infiltrate-america-s-top-companies

Bloomberg has published a detailed investigative report today alleging that a list of U.S. Companies, including Amazon and Apple, suffered a security intrusion via hardware infiltration. This isn’t a hack in the software sense, it’s a result of literal physical modification to server motherboards at the time of manufacturing by subcontractors in China, allegedly coerced by operatives working for the Chinese People’s Liberation Army — making this a potentially state-backed attack.

Amazon and Apple have issue denials

Seems like this administration wasn’t so off base about Huawei and ZTE. I expect Amazon and Apple to go through rigorous investigation now that this is out.

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Add an uninformed electorate and I’d agree with you.

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I’d love a pointer because that sounds interesting. Are you referencing:

? That’d be my guess.

Summaries (on average in all cases of course):
Democrats now think we should do more to help the needy. Republicans less so.
Democrats think that racial discrimination is a problem.
Democarts think that immigrants help the country.
Democrats think peace through diplomacy is better than through military strength
Democrats cool with homosexuality

Is there anything interesting in there? The shit they’re identifying seems pretty innocuous and uninteresting. Page 7 seems to be the best page, and … mostly just seems like pragmatic realizations. (He says from his own biased point of view.)

I think when the base of your electorate is voting based on memes that have a basis in actual bigotry, you’ve discovered the problem.

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Wrong.

Pesky racism just never seems to go away…

It helps corporations with cheap slave labor.

LOL

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https://www.wsj.com/articles/i-am-an-independent-impartial-judge-1538695822?redirect=amp#click=https://t.co/r7ZtATiUwE

Looks as good as RBG’s apology did.

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Wrong.

I didn’t say they were doing the right thing. Maybe what we’re doing is the worst possible option, but maybe that worst possible option is better than every other option. You want to help, figure out the better plan and make that happen. Nihilistic bullshit doesn’t really get us anywhere useful.

Pesky racism just never seems to go away…

Think we’re agreed here.

It helps corporations with cheap labor.

ftfy, think we’re agreed here. It’s weird how situations are complex did you know!

LOL

I think the “while” part of that is the important part. Maybe you prefer the alternative…? The whole world police thing sucks. Seems like you’re advocating for more diplomacy less murder? IDK IDC.

giant picture of Hillary

Yeah, it’s pretty fucked up how libruls got more librul over time and changed positions on things. I for one never change my position on anything because that doesn’t make sense amirite.

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Since you brought it up, RBG’s:
https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/753594332687523840/photo/1

RBG’s apology is succinct and clear. Kavanaugh’s not so much because what he was saying was to me a lot scarier. But I guess everything is always the same. #whataboutism

I for one welcome SCOTUS justice Kavanaugh and look forward to how that level-headed guy deals with the Clinton revenge conspiracy he identified during his lifetime appointment to the court. This is a true delight that the Republicans were able to change the rules to get him appointed, and a real victory for our democracy. True shame that there were no other qualified judges out there at all.

About the race thing, maybe it’s just because I’m from the home of Barry Goldwater, but I don’t understand how you can look at the things that Fox, our President, and most Conservative goobers have said and not see how it definitely and purposefully appeals to racists. To hell with what Tucker Carlson and DJT actually think, they are pulling the same shit that Goldwater did his whole life, as was summarized pretty damn succinctly by Martin Luther King: “While not himself a racist (big of him to say, btw), Mr. Goldwater articulates a philosophy which gives aid and comfort to the racists.”

It didn’t work for Barry but it damn sure worked for Trump. I think there’s something to be said there. And yes, the Clintons and other top Dems have shitty opinions about race-related issues, so let’s just get that whattaboutism out of the way because they aren’t running the country and making dipshit policies stepped in it at moment.

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He is saying trump won for the lulz and 4chan backs that

Could the republicans have won due to electoral college with any other candidate? Most likely

Would any other candidate willingly be a lightning rod for racist, homophobic, and xenophobic stances?

Trump is a puppet and getting across the gop agenda of stripping rights and keeping under priveleged individuals poor

I have to say, I for one am happy that this hearing is happening. The left is currently in the process of committing suicide.

Ford’s testimony is hard to watch. It’s like watching some bad actor. Hell, even Jimmy Kimmel had better acting skills when he put on the waterworks and tried to push the left’s narrative of gun control, in response to the Las Vegas shooting. Or what about PEDObama Barry Soetoro and his fake crocodile tears, for the victims of the Sandy Hook shooting. And fuck you Dianne Feinstein, you gun control lefty.

"The left is commited to the removal of a dually-elected president, the destruction of our system of Capitalism and now, an all-out assault on our system of justice. To them, you are "guilty — guilty until proven innocent."

It should be obvious but the only reason Ford is coming out with these allegations now is to stop Trump’s pick from getting in. The left got greedy with this one and it’s going to cost them dearly. Seppuku anyone?

As to Kavanaugh’s statement about “Clinton Revenge” — I agree. Should he have said it? Maybe not, but I’d say any time that a traitor gets called out and the nation hears about it, that’s good. Traitors deserve to be exposed to the American People.

This truly is an exciting time to be alive. People may not like having to choose sides but I’m sorry to tell you who’d rather remain centerist or neutral — you’re going to have to pick a side sooner or later. The Civil War of Right vs. Left is upon us. And I say Right vs. Left and not Left vs. Right, because Good comes first in “Good vs. Evil”.

Things like football, award shows, comic books, movies/television, and even Magic: The Gathering are all arenas for this civil war of Right vs. Left. All-female Ghostbusters? GTFO. I’ve never watched Ghostbusters but it’s obvious that left-wing controlled Hollywood is just doing this because it’s part of their ideology. The same way they want to cast a black James Bond, or have people think Bert and Ernie from Sesame Street are gay and not just friends. Comics - don’t read 'em but apparently “SJW Marvel” is a thing in the comic world. In MTG you have Wizards of the Coast banning right-leaning people for their political views — FOR LIFE. Ridiculous.

"All of these things can be solved by simple conversation but because it’s left vs. right, liberal vs. conservative, because it’s Unsleeved Media vs.Tolarian and The Mana Source vs. me. Even I’m guilty of this as well where you know… I’ll be quite frank with you… my gosh it’s bad in our community right now and we can’t even speak to each other, and that’s the problem."

The left is a disease out of out of control, like a malignant tumor that spreads to all facets of life. It is the left that created this pussified culture of Social Justice Warriors — people who need to be offended by fucking everything. They need to be offended so that they can “virtue signal”. Disgraceful.

If the world is to become a better place — the disease that is known as the left must be destroyed.

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That’s a big ass post of “I don’t do these things but o have heard”

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Nah, not really. That was just the part about entertainment. I play Magic, so that doesn’t count. Don’t read comics or have any interest to watch certain “cult-classic” movies. I don’t have to participate in these things in order to see the left’s tactics. Just like I don’t have to get shot to know that it will hurt.

SJW Marvel and an all-female Ghostbusters = the left imposing their ideology of “diversity”.

be sure you understand the difference…

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So “Own the libs” shouldn’t be a thing huh.

That’s the one. The parts I thought were interesting were the graphs on page 12 that show how far things have spread apart in the last 20 years and how leftists seem to be leading that charge.

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This is a great video. I try to tell people this same thing but everyone thinks liberal/left are the same. The left wing are the real facists and are hiding that fact behind all their “care speech.”

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A lot of pundits on the right also incorrectly associate the two. This means they also need a course correction on thought. The extreme of any ideology is disastrous.

Speaking of liberals . . .