Predates that too. Earliest national example of it I can think of is the election of Andrew Jackson, but I am sure it’s been around in some form long before that.
But just because someone didn’t invent being a shitbird doesn’t mean they get to skate on their responsibility for choosing to act like one.
Goddamn, I hope none of you guys ever have to go through this.
Lol, my wife’s brain surgery wasn’t cheap either. Her insurance covered a surprising amount though.
same with the pregnancy. She spent a full month in the hospital and we didn’t get entirely raked over by insurance. Her district has godlike insurance TBH.
I’m glad to hear that, brother. I don’t know how people are forced between bankruptcy and life.
Can’t even imagine how much my dad’s quadruple bypass would have cost in the states if we had mediocre insurance.
I hate to burst your lovably deluded bubble, but I’ll need you to explain how Merrick Garland fits into your worldview before I can take it seriously.
Oooh, we’re playing these games now?
“and not name a nominee until after the November election is completed.”
"The senate too, Mr President, must consider how it would respond to a supreme court vacancy that would occur on the full throes of an election year. "
I guess that’s how you deal with that. Same way that republicans can’t act surprised at Democrats hardballing them in the senate after Trump’s election when they did it to Obama for most of his tenure.
Fuck McCain. He was a war-mongering neocon asshole.
Ah, I see you read Republican talking points. You must have missed the year of discussions on that very issue, cuz that was brought up early and then we all moved on because this was indeed something no party had done before.
The “context” for that video is terrible. Nobody is going to allow a lame duck President to nominate a supreme court justice. This literally would be the end result of that scenario:
“Mr President, I urge to postpone the nomination until after the election so that we may use you not being re-elected as a talking point for two months until the new person takes place.”
That’s all Biden’s speech would’ve amounted to in practical terms. Trying to give “context” a course of decision making that would’ve left to the aforementioned situation is hilarious.
Either you don’t understand what lame duck means or you’re saying that McConnell’s decision to completely and utterly redefine what “lame duck” means in terms of SCOTUS was “just how Republicans roll these days”. Which is exactly in line with my questioning of your handwaving apologetics for the Obama/Russia/McConnell bullshit.
I believe we’ll find that “lame duck” means something completely different now that a Republican is in office. I’m sure that Obama should have been able to get something done on his own because that’s how the government works in fantasyland, and he already wasn’t sabotaged on a historic scale.
smh
A lame - duck session of Congress in the United States occurs whenever one Congress meets after its successor is elected, but before the successor’s term begins.
Considering that it was referencing a President that wouldn’t have been elected but still attempting to make decisions with lasting impacts, seems like an apt comparison.
I’ve also haven’t defended either party on anything. Let me quote myself real quick:
Can’t tell if you’re trolling:
“In politics, a lame duck is an elected official whose successor has already been elected.”
Yes, I’m aware you’re doing your usual “I’m not really defending either side…” thing. However, if you’re trying to pretend that the McConnell thing was in any way business as usual you’re certainly taking an odd stance that would normally be equated with Republican talking points. But haha if that was the case I’d’ve expected your response to be “but Biden!”. haha, but clearly that didn’t happen
I’m not trying to pretend anything. Let’s go through the whole sequence of buffoonery we’ve had today:
The President, regardless of congress, should’ve taken steps to protect the election. You can accuse McConnell of politicizing it, but it is very likely he chose not to because he thought Hillary was going to win and didn’t want to lead off her presidency with a scandal.
Russia got ballsy with the planet when Obama said he wanted to normalize relations. That was a massive fuck up.
Biden gave a shitty speech in congress for no reason that came back to bite the democrats in the ass. On top of that you quoting Wikipedia changes nothing in my use of the term. Had Bush needed to nominate after his loss in November, he’d been given the lame duck shimmy and blocked from being able to do so. Biden was posturing, McConnell went through with it. If Ginsburg dies in 2020, I hope dems cockblock the hell out of that appointment.
Silly anti-intellectual shit started well before Palin. She dropped off fairly hard afterwards so it she’s not even much of a poster child for it.
Seriously, the President is in charge of all the intelligence agencies, has more information on every citizen than ever imagined by a nightmare vision of America from the Founding Fathers and probably has an army of hackers that could shot down Russian Vodka production over night. How in the fuck did Obama let McDonnell cuck him on the whole Russia situation?
“LOLOL republican talking points”. For fuck’s sake. Saying the President should’ve done his duty to protect the election isn’t a talking point. Shrugging away at a nominee getting cockblocked because Biden is a dumb ass isn’t a talking point either: it is literally what happened.
Just because i’m not trying to play partisan games doesn’t force me into one side. Both parties have done plenty to fuck over my life from the Patriot act to Obamacare. I’m not really in a position to support either, but more than happy to assign blame fairly.
I guess we’ll see what’s up with that Bruce Ohr testimony then.
I just want to go on record saying FUCK Obama.
He’s a bitch-made pussy, but that was him at his MOST bitch-made pussy.
He really didn’t HAVE a choice, as President.
His duty was to tell the truth and to take the hard path and expose Russia.
He chose not to act legally, ethically, or Presidentially.
I got nothing: you want to make false equivalencies that anybody alive would question, you rock on with your bad self. That “both parties the same” thing seems weird to me, but I’m sure there’s some counterpart to what actually happened with Merrick Garland to what did not happen with anybody else. Ever.
My point was that this was how fucked up McConnell was treating Obama when they were “getting along”. “They go low we go high” only works if your opponents don’t have multiple propaganda machines ensuring people parrot talking points regardless of reality.
I liked this today:
The last number is supposedly wrong, and that’s really unfair to Trump. Supposedly it’s actually 35:
Who even can keep track at this point? Trump surrounds himself with some pretty shady fucks, but I’m sure he’s clean. Or at least we’ll just pretend that since the Republicans own the House and Senate … which are in theory in charge of keeping the President from doing untoward shit towards the people of this nation.
No football team ever won a single game.
Both sides lost.
The bottom of a slice of beans and toast is equally as peanut-buttery as the top.
Scalene triangles are pure myth.
Because if there are sides, they must be equal.
What you need to do is calm sit your ass the fuck down and calm the shit out of it. I’ve recapped everything I’ve said and why I said it. I hold the person in charge of the executive branch and thus responsible for protecting us from external threats responsible for any Russian meddling that may have happened.
I also said that dems are free to block any and all nominations attempted on 2020. Being mad about Garland’s nomination is just sour grapes about not controlling congress. That type of nonsense is EXACTLY what the Founding Fathers intended: make things an unworkable mess and make sure all branches hold each other in contempt.
Nothing here has been dishonest, disingenuous or giving special privilege to either party. And literally none of it has fuck all to do with my daughter. If you’re mad at what I’ve brought up, then you’re mad at the division of powers in the government and the politicing a shitty ass two party system has created. I ain’t responsible for any of it but I can sure blame them for it. Hell, considering only two parties have been playing tug of war for the last 100+ years, then acting like either one is holier than the other is ludicrous.
Nobody’s offspring in this thread have anything to do with the decisions of elected officials and it is going to stay that way. Nobody in this site became a father so it could be use as a way to attack a user. If you feel I’m being dishonest about this, I’ll be more than happy to quote myself going in on Matriarch for doing the same to drizzt many lounges ago.
Are you honestly trying to suggest that the two party system of blue and red, is actually a single party system of green?
That this single party of green is somehow coincidentally composed of a single percent of America’s population?
That nothing that we, of that other, non-green ninety-nine percent do, could ever possibly effect a change socially or politically, barring
full-blown revolution?
Blue and red make purple, not green. Gawd.
Your mistake is believing red and blue ever existed in the first place.
No more spoons, only Matrix.
Wooden Spoon.
Woolsey Spoony.
Spoony Bard.
Wooden Keanu.
Wooden Tard.
Wooden Spooney Tard.
Green IS the One!!! [Percent]