See, this is a perfect example of something that’s been discussed to death…
Try searching for it.
sorry but i have searched and searched for it and whenever people talk about the move it’s just “OTG Demon flip throw” they never say the input command. I know it’s semi circle forwards/up with fierce bet the throw part is bafflin me.
Oh thanks dude ^.^ you truly are a king amongst men ^.^
Just a little tip for Bison players, learn the range of all your scissors kicks, they can become quite valuable as pokes and trappers, since a scissors kick can reach vertically as well to hit people in the air, also if ranged properly a counter 1 hit scissor kick can be juggled from in the corner.
Also in some cases a 1 Hit counter hit scissors kick can juggle into another cr. SP scissors kick mid screen if your quick.
Theoretically it might be possible to follow it all the way into the corner for a cr. SP >> Stomp
Nibor’s Cody = 100% solid. HELLA good games at CF man.
Yea man, i’m glad we got to play (i really like your A-guy btw, consistently getting off every combo and making good opportunities etc) we got some great games in. Too bad i was away for most of the weekend :bluu: . Oh well, hope you had a good time in NY. I’ll see you at evo.
Anyone got stuff to share with V-Rose? All I could find was this:
Well that, and he says there’s an unblockable glitch that he’s taking to the grave with him… :lol:
Any good infinite setups? I tried shadow-hit stuff but can’t get anything to work… Tried some let-them-flip-and-THEN-shadow-hits stuff but can’t get anything good for all flips. :bluu:
I like meaty low strong stuff (links into VC, wee) but I pretty much just play her like A, but without supers… 
Third one DOES go through fireballs I found out, at least quick ones. I don’t know about Bison’s Psycho Shot or Dee Jay’s broken, broken shit.
Other minor corrections being that for the Anti-air VC (at the bottom of the second paragraph, you have to VC really late vs some moves like Sak’s jumping Short, or you’ll be hit out of it. Also you don’t have to whiff the first Soul Spiral. And the unblockable thing only seems to work on the Saturn version (though I’ve only really tested it on the Saturn and DC versions, so…). I think it may have worked once on the arcade version, but I don’t know if the other guy’s stick just went out or something.
I found some cc setup that was like, VC3 juggle with b+FP, whiff Jab Soul Reflect in the corner until your meter gets low, b+RK twice and cancel the second one into a Fierce Soul Reflect or something, and they’ll be hit if they Air Recover either forwards or backwards. I don’t remember if it hits if they don’t air recover at all though. hah.
Most convenient infinite setup would be VC1 juggle with b+FP xx whiff Jab Soul Reflect, c.SP -> jumping whatever. They get hit by the shadow of the crouching Strong, and they can’t escape because you’re already jumping and thus no longer in a neutral state. Be sure to do a jumping Strong as your meter runs out so they get hit by the shadow of the j.SP and bounce higher.
Attached list of stuff from my FAQ, though I should probably get to updating that.
Tried the d.MP shadow hit thing… but they could still flip. I couldn’t find one shadow hit move that would let it work for me… Maybe I’m timing the shadow wrong? 
Hrm… Wouldn’t MP reflect be better AA?
I’ll work on that 3rd one. Usually I walk through FBs and go for the low MP into drill… but sometimes I’m not close enough to continue after the drill.
DJ could prolly block even after you go thru his FB anyhow…
Oops… I’m a scrub. shadow hit low MP does work. 
thanks TS.
Anybody here have a decent Ryu and Akuma faq they can give a link to? Basic information in order to be good with these characters.
Also what is the best mode for Ken?
I think M Quiambao’s Rose FAQ on GameFAQ’s is more informative on playstyle for the Shotos than any of the other FAQ’s there. Just check the matchup section in the FAQ.
Thanks I will check it out. But why are they in Rose’s faq? Are the individual faqs good also, ryu? and akuma? cause I’ve heard bad things about gamefaqs.
Most FAQs are merely combo lists, with advice like, use a dragonpunch when they jump.
gamefaqs is a good resource…just not for street fighter. Im sure you can find 1 or 2 good ones out there, i know a found a couple for tekken tag when i played, but i have yet to see a good sf faq.
CvS2 at Abs took to long so only a3 groups are finished.
The Rest of A3 will be held friday evening.
convo I had in #ct
<liljohn> how did a3 groups go ?
<Butta> all japanese players qualified
<Butta> chunkis qualified
<liljohn> huh
<liljohn> only chunkis of the europeans ?
<neoKEN> who got 1st through 3rd?
<Butta> The_Chef didn’t qualify
<Butta> that’s all i know
<liljohn> how many people can qualify or one group ?
<neoKEN> last i checked it was 2
<liljohn> hehe I heard daigo got eliminated
<liljohn> ok than will see some euro action
<neoKEN> maybe that rumor was from chunkis ?
<liljohn> nah in cvs2 i mean
<Butta> in the quarter final
<liljohn> french players too good !
<neoKEN> yeah i heard about it
<neoKEN> daigo getting lazy from getting too use to your best of 3 games tournament. lol
<neoKEN> no 2nd chance for j00 daigo!
<liljohn> hehe !
<liljohn> man V-ryu has to qualify
<neoKEN> !!!
<neoKEN> how did he do?
<liljohn> i dunno ma
<Butta> pretty good in a3
<liljohn> he was in apoule with GQ
<liljohn> i think he’s through
<liljohn> hope so
<liljohn> did many people show up ?
<neoKEN> any people would could stand a chance against v-ryu in his pool other than gq?
<Butta> wow, then The_Chef had not only daigo and gq but also v-ryu
<neoKEN> any other.
<neoKEN> ugh. i don’t know that got typed
<neoKEN> was there any other person that would stand a chance against v-ryu in that pool other than GQ?
<liljohn> hmmm lemme check
<Butta> [02:09] The_Chef Butta: I got banged up by Daigo and Chikyuu
<liljohn> ah
<liljohn> maybe they put groups together because peeps didn’t showed up
<Butta> yep
<neoKEN> harsh
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<Butta> i see no other reason
<liljohn> oops my mistake
<liljohn> v-ryu is in the poule with IZU
- RaJu_ is now known as Rule—
<Butta> izu didn’t play a3 from what i heard
<liljohn> Raju k\can you tell us something
<neoKEN> i never heard of izu in a3 before
<liljohn> his name is in the group though
<Rule—> ?
<liljohn> about A3
<Butta> yeah, but he didn’t play
<Rule—> what bout it?
<liljohn> who qualified
<liljohn> and stuff
<liljohn> how did euro do
<Rule—> ddunno everyone, so fay i know is: bas, kuni, chunkis, GJ, evilguy, daigo, ino, rf, kiyu
<liljohn> v-ryu ?
<liljohn> coool thnx man
<liljohn> who is Rf ?
<liljohn> I know he;s japanese
<Rule—> yeah
<liljohn> so they are finishing a3 now
<Rule—> he came second in ggxx, and thrid in cvs2
<Rule—> no
<Butta> [02:32] huang how was jimmy v-ryu doing at a3 ?
<Rule—> a3 SE is this evening
<Butta> [02:32] The_Chef huang: he was doing quite good
<Rule—> dunno how jimmy did
<liljohn> ahh thnx
<liljohn> I didn’t know france was that good at cvs2
<liljohn> they should go to SBO
<Rule—> everyone was shocked to see daigo go out
<liljohn> I can imagine that
<liljohn> hehe
<Rule—> hmmm
<liljohn> Rule did you enter a3 ?
<Rule—> ino and chikyuu have sc2 today
<Rule—> yeah i entered
<liljohn> if so how did you do
<Rule—> i won 5 matchs
<Rule—> not enough to qualify
<liljohn> kewl
<Rule—> i shoulda had kuni though, bum super wouldnt come out
<liljohn> lol what char did you use
<Rule—> x-sim
<liljohn> hardcore
<Rule—>
<liljohn> kuni used zangief ?
<Rule—> yeah
<Rule—> Bas only lost 1 round in quals
<Rule—>
<liljohn> against who ? lol
<Rule—> arma
<liljohn> w00t
<liljohn> did arma use his gen
<Rule—> yeah
<Rule—> gen and guy
<Butta> nice
<liljohn> arma is da bomb
<Rule—> yeah
<liljohn> i’ve seen him play
<Rule—> considering that he played ggxx before a3, it didnt mess him up at all
<liljohn> man I should have been at abs
<Rule—> yeah
<Rule—> im gong this evening again
<liljohn> I envy you
<liljohn>
<Rule—> lol
Can anyone give me some hints to play good against an aggresive X/A-Zangief? I use mainly V-Charlie, V-Ryu and have some problems against this char (especially with Charlie).
Use Dhalshim
or Deejay. DJ owns X-Gief
How is he beating your V-Charlie? I thought he had the upper hand vs non-V Gief.