Alpha 3: Q & A

[System_1]

*Originally posted by Apoc *
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St. strong is really good for chun here and Charlie has jump back fierce as his air defense in this match. I would say that A-Chun wins 6-4 at worst but X-Chun? It’s against a V-character. Why would someone use X vs. V? I’d say that’s asking for a big handicap. Charlie has confusion vcs that will eat her alive imo. Xism is just a poor choice for Chun against Vism. Xism is great against Aism but V clearly has the advantage over X.

Aside from isms. Chun has the better walking speed and Charlie relies on footsies. Chun handles his footgame better than most due to her walking speed. She beats him on the ground, straight up. St. strong being Charlies biggest threat. But she can easily push Charlie to the corner and move the match herself. What’s charlie going to do? Give her free pressure by throwing a sonic boom or use a poke so that she can AC and send you half way to the corner? Either way, rushdown chun will have Charlie in the corner. If he can pick a good time to hit those buttons(activate VC), then sure, he can pull it out. Just don’t guess wrong or waste it.

Chun has better defense in the match-up and also applies the pressure dictating the match. In A3, a lot of the match goes to the aggressor. So, there you have it from my standpoint. Chun Li beats him on average. A great Charlie will give her a run for her money though. It’s a great match actually.

Charlie has lots of great match-ups. I don’t understand why he’s not used more in Aism but V-Charlie should’ve been showing up in tournies more often here but never did.

Apoc.

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Hey, I used him in Vegas, remember?

[AJtheMishima]

*Originally posted by AJtheMishima *
**If any of you sfa3 players wanna give me acouple of lessons in the games, come play me on kaillera. Aim me- ajthemishima
Nothing but scrubs on there, and i know im not that good, so somebody come put me in my place. plz, im serious, im beginning to think im badass, i just need someone good to whoop my ass. :bluu: **

So nobody wants to give me a lesson and own me?? :bluu:

[shadowcharlie]

*Originally posted by AJtheMishima *
**If any of you sfa3 players wanna give me acouple of lessons in the games, come play me on kaillera. Aim me- ajthemishima
Nothing but scrubs on there, and i know im not that good, so somebody come put me in my place. plz, im serious, im beginning to think im badass, i just need someone good to whoop my ass. :bluu: **

why dont u go to stargate and ask someone like david hem to play a few rounds against ya?
YES4ME: yeah laot of c.hp, alot baiting into dp and crossup with crane style mk.

[bushin187]

*Originally posted by AJtheMishima *
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So nobody wants to give me a lesson and own me?? :bluu: **

I saw you in o8s kailera but you were playing. I only use kawaks my name is Student of Daigo there. I’m usually in Wise place and o8s

[System_1]

What do you do after R mika’s super where she just runs around all crazy

[shadowcharlie]

*Originally posted by Infantry *
**What do you do after R mika’s super where she just runs around all crazy **

there is a whole flowchart of what u can do from drop kicks t combinations of graples and moves.

[chi-gui]

wassup peeps! im not new to A3 but i never really got in to vism! im starting to now because it is fun! but i cant crouch cancel; its verydiffucult for me! some help is appreciated! i play a-guy and v - sagat!

[AJtheMishima]

Ive been playing sfa3 for awhile now, im a decent player, but i have trouble with 2 character. Im having alot of trouble with Dhalsims cheap ass and for some reason im have trouble against a good adon. ANy tips would be appreciated. my Main characters are A-cammy, X-Sagat, X-Ryu, A-Akuma and A-dan.

[shadowcharlie]

*Originally posted by AJtheMishima *
**Ive been playing sfa3 for awhile now, im a decent player, but i have trouble with 2 character. Im having alot of trouble with Dhalsims cheap ass and for some reason im have trouble against a good adon. ANy tips would be appreciated. my Main characters are A-cammy, X-Sagat, X-Ryu, A-Akuma and A-dan. **

i can try and help with the x-sagatVSa-adon matchup
the main problem for sagat is that adom is basicly created so that all his moves are tailor made to beat out or to capitalize on sagats. another problem x brings into this is the fact that now adon has garanteed AA options.
always keep out of sweep range lots of c.hp(suprising no^_^) try not to trow any high tiger shots either because u most likely eat a jag revolver or a c.hp coutnerhit. this is a turtle game for sagat since adon has stupidly strong dp wakeup and c.mp to keep u from knockdown followups. do not try to jump at all in this match, if u knock down then tiger knee to the location . hope that helps some on that

[DVD_madZ]

I was lookign at Nibor’s Cody notes and I ahve a question:
What does whiffed mean? There are several places where a moved (in the VC) needs to be whiffed. (like whiffed qcf forward)

[SaBrE]

wiff = missed attack in the fighting game world.

attack doesnt make contact (blocked or hit) at all

[System_1]

And the whiff is important because it’s most likely a move that propels you forward to continue the custom.

The fickle thing about Cody’s custom is you gotta pay attention to where the opponent is. Like if you start the custom with a QCF+Forward, but follow up with a s.Fierce, the opponent will sort of move away from the Fierce, which is when you gotta start doing c.Forward -> QCF+Forward.

[System_1]

How do I do Sodom and or Birdie’s vism combos I have no idea. please help.

[shadowcharlie]

*Originally posted by Infantry *
**How do I do Sodom and or Birdie’s vism combos I have no idea. please help. **

if your talking about the hp scrape one for sodom then u need to just do one per juggle till corner then do two in a row to switch sides. and continue

[System_1]

How do I get them juggled I seriously have no idea how to even start it or what moves to use.

[System_1]

*Originally posted by Infantry ***How do I get them juggled I seriously have no idea how to even start it or what moves to use. **

You can check the SFA3 Character VC’s thread for specific VC’s. For Sodom practice:

VC3: fierce scrape, [s.rh (hits) * jab scrape (whiffs)] (repeat)

It’s best if you hit them with some c.shorts in the beginning since they come out quicker. Also you have to do something funky when you hit the corner.

[Gandido]

How do shotos fight Dhalsim? I’m looking for basic info vs. Dhalsim just so you know. If you want to get character specific, please put Akuma and Ryu. Also, besides pinning Sim in the corner, how does Guy fight against a well-played Sim? Don’t tell me to watch the Daigo vs. Cole match. I already have. Thanks.

-Gandido-

[SaBrE]

gandido. with v-akuma. best way to get inside on sim is to b+fierce ch his limb into a fierce demon flip. c.strong is a good shoto attack to kill limbs. they dont stop low limbs like c.strong/fierce long limbs tho. gotta strong or fierce dp low limbs like that. if you are are close to sim, do not jump in on him much. sim’s jump back air throw bs will pretty much beat any jump in attack that shotos have. including air hk and akuma dive kick. its best to jump attack from a distance or jump in after a knockdown. once inside, s.jabs are your best friend. sim cant crouch under the s.jabs since they hit him mid. so your goal once inside is to guard crush to death. like doing constant walkup s.jabs and ending with a b+rh. or you can mix up and just do a s.jab into throw or crossup after s.jabs. whatever you do, DO NOT c.rh sim unless you are sure it will connect. sim will always get a free s.strong after a blocked c.rh at any range and will pretty much regain control of the round. a semi early j.fierce can take out some limbs too like s.rh and s.forward. thats some basic stuff to know. gotta hella practice that matchup.

but for the record, ryu has a very low chance of beating sim. akuma has a much better chance but its still in sim’s favor IMO…

[shadowcharlie]

*Originally posted by Gandido *
**How do shotos fight Dhalsim? I’m looking for basic info vs. Dhalsim just so you know. If you want to get character specific, please put Akuma and Ryu. Also, besides pinning Sim in the corner, how does Guy fight against a well-played Sim? Don’t tell me to watch the Daigo vs. Cole match. I already have. Thanks.

-Gandido- **

to be honest i dont think anyone can help u with the guy sim matchup, what daigo does basicly is just magic, and imo works only because this is daigo playing guy. just try to imitate some of the vid but honestly i dont see how guy beats sim normally at all.

[Gandido]

All I know is that Guy’s c.strong seems to beat out a lot of the low attacks, and that his forward hurricane seems to beat out the high ones. I know how to play when I get people to the corner, but sometimes I just get like lost, I dunno. Thanks for the shoto advice Sabre.