Alien Covenant / Prometheus / Aliens / AvP / Discussion Thread

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Fair enough on the hate,
I kind of took Jerusalem as the Macguffin of the movie…there’s nothing particular about the city itself, it’s the significance it plays to the overall broad strokes of the religious beliefs of what it is, and the significance is long lost on a personal level to these people. It’s for the glory of their religion, even though there’s not much glory to be found for those fighting. Saladin understands that on behalf of the religious side of things, it’s everything, it’s some kind of weird tangible proof to his generals that doing what they’re doing, in the name of what they’re doing, is right…but it means nothing because the battle has accomplished nothing in the end. The cycle of violence in the name of religion will continue, and no measure of peace or respect has been reached. And all that…
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Madea in space

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So I finally got around to watching this today, and overall I liked it. Sure there are a lot of holes in the plot, but not anything really big that ruins the whole movie. Leaving the movie open on the premise of there being a possible sequel isn’t the best idea.

That being said, this whole 3D shit has to go away. To this day I don’t see what it adds to the whole movie overall. Sure something like Avatar really takes advantage of the technology, but most 3D movies do absolutely nothing for me(aside from charging $14.50:annoy:).

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Just out of curiosity to all the people who didn’t like it(plus I’m kinda lazy to read so many pages back), can we get a quick list of all the plot holes that bothered you? One of the major questions I have is why the Engineers “invited” humanity to the planet LV-223 in the first place. Than again, it could be symbolic more than anything if humanity was also created on LV-223.

Just search Bob Sagat’s post in this thread, he pretty much shit on the entire film thoroughly IMO lol.

to me its personal because i had to study “Bar At The Folies Bergere” at college, and thats a period in my life i’d like to forget.

besides that, I somewhat agree with your argument… I can understand why people hate the film but I dont understand why people nitpick trivial things like the helmet or the technology being far too advanced from todays technology, even though its a film set 70yrs from now (with mutating Aliens)… why not complain about it having Aliens as-well if thats the case…
There is no excuse to justify holloway taking off his helmet but if he kept it on i doubt that would change the opinions people already have of the film.

I’m upset that it wasnt mainly a sci-fi horror. I couldnt care less about Xenomorphs being in Prometheus, I just wanted to see a modern sci-fi film directed by Ridley Scott with a variety of diffrent looking Aliens fucking people up… shaw vs the space jockey should’ve been on par with ripley vs the alien queen.

I can think of an excuse for him removing his helmet.

So we didn’t have to hear ventilator voices for the duration of that entire scene.

Nolan is quite happy for bane to wear a ventilator for an entire movie lol

Well Bane is a badass and that’s still better than the batman voice.

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I taped Alien 3 last month but only managed to watch it for the first time last night… it sucked like i expected, but i didnt expect the cgi to look as bad as it did… they should’ve used anamatronics or puppets instead.

yeah i feel like the graphics in Jurassic Park have stood the test of time pretty well

It was a puppet, the only CGI in Alien 3 was the alien’s head cracking at the end and debris flying around in the external scenes. They added a CGI bit with the Bambi-burster running away after birth for the Assembly Cut, the original shot was a dog in a suit, but they dumped it cuz it looked ridiculous. The digital composting is poor in a lot of sequences, though, particularly the sizing when the Alien walks up to Ripley for the close up. Looks too skinny.

If you get chance, watch the Assembly Cut and the Alien 3 documentary, doesn’t fix the movie’s problems, but it is a more interesting version…

David Fincher “It’s amazing to me that Fox is the number one studio in America, because they’re all a bunch of morons”

Would you guys buy the DVD? or save the money?

I would by a directors cut version if it would fix all the damn plot holes.

Ill buy the bd just cause i liked it bruv.

Why did you watch the original version :tdown:

Does anybody have a clip from Superman Returns the part where Lex discovers the fortress. I swear the track used in that scene is the same theme used in Prometheus. What’s even stranger is moments earlier Lex talks about himself being Prometheus.

Assembly still has the biggest plot hole, unfortunately, the whole "How the fuck did the egg end up on the Sulaco?"
I wish they had cut that shot in the opening credits…
The AC almost explains it away with the Super Face Hugger in the alternate alien birth scene(comes out of an Ox instead, convict lifts up a dead, larger, armored face hugger in a wide shot that is tough to see) In the production concept art it seems like they were going to have it be a facehugger that hides itself on the Queen’s body if the Hive was in danger.

For the Blu-ray edition, they did some ADR with the original actors so the sound is 100% now(the DVD version has subtitles for the low quality production audio scenes), and the BR Alien 3 documentary has the footage of Fincher on camera exercising his frustration with Fox brass restored.

I’m ok with the theory that a queen laying hugger would also be able to lay a guardian too. However, actually showing the egg brings up too many conspiracy theory stuff since it wasn’t where the queen could have left it.

However, Alien 3 will always be my third favorite alien movie simply because they killed Hicks and Newt.

I didnt have a choice… just realised its on again, today, on the Film4 channel at 11:20pm… thats ten minutes from now (or you can watch it 1hr later on film4+1).

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