yeah that stupid idea about a phantom signal approaching them and them running to that main chamber they should of just killed the snake if they wanted to stay away from whatever it was outside. stupid scientists, if you want to stay in a most likely safer area and theres a threat like that snake you just kill it like any ordinary person
Anyone who couldnāt see at a cursory glance that the āreflection was offā, needs to hand over his eyes, because he sure as fuck isnāt using them.
I think Iāve made my opinion quite clear, I really enjoyed this film despite it being heavy on the character retardation. I guess you can call that a balanced point of view??? :wonder:
The movie has more merits than problems IMO. Itās like the movie The One (with Jet Li), a movie that most would consider bad, but for me itās a great movie not because Jet Li gets to kick a lot of butt, but because they had an idea, a great concept, and they took the risk to make it.
Prometheus despite itās flaws in writing is still an 8.5/10 for me. So yeh, I completely understand what Specs is saying to an extent, because I noticed most of those errors too, but Iām not the type of person that sees something like that and then feels completely removed from the movie. To me those flaws didnāt take away from the story Ridley was trying to tell. Iām interested in dissecting the larger picture, or at least try to figure out this jigsaw puzzle of a trilogy.
PS Iām not nut riding Ridley cos Kingdom of Heaven fāing sucked (not seen the the 3hr directorās cut)
Same way I felt about the movie Sunshine. It had its flaws but the movie was imaginative and actually tried to deal with many elements in a solid matter.
Iād rather have a film that actually tries to explore new thematic elements and fall short, than a super-safe film thatās uses cliched concepts in order to net a guaranteed profit.
it depends on the viewing context. not many people these days are going to head straight to that painting so they have a lot of complex images in their head already on first glance. likewise with a visit to the museum, itās easy to get lost in the high mixture of visual stimulation not to mention audio stimulation and transferences.
most people assume there is a mirror behind the girl. iāll asume the reason for this is that the paintingās title has the eatery/lounge/restaurant/bar whatever it wasā¦in it. therefore, there must be actual photos of the place, or eyewitness descriptions, or other paintings of the place that show/describe the actual layout of this restaurant in enough detail that may or may not place a mirror having hung behind the drink serving counter.
iāll assume this is why most people think there is a large mirror located behind the bar counter.
i havenāt researched/looked into itā¦so i donāt know why most people even assume thereās a mirror in that painting. but iāll assume this is the cause for the assumptions of a mirror being located behind the girl.
that said.
its a painting.
if a mirror is there in the painting and manet selected to play with perspective, that was his perrogative.
if the mirror isnāt there and manet painted the eatery as having the drink serving bar somewhere centered in the eateryā¦with tables and chairs and customers in a full 360 degree around the barā¦that was also up to him.
its a painting. it doesnāt have to represent reality 100% completely.
you would be surprised how many paintings arenāt fully depicting what the artists were staring at while they painted.
for exampleā¦
if a painter paints a little girl with a grey hat standing in front of a blue-green backgroundā¦that doesnāt mean heās gonna paint a little girl wearing a grey hat standing in front of a blue-green background.
he may alter the hat to a black hat with a red sash wrapping around the hatā¦or he may depict the hat as he sees it, but change the background color to a warmer light brown-rose colorā¦heāll do these things if he feels that the actual visual image before himā¦his model and her surroundingsā¦are too cool in tone and therefore too lifeless. if he feels the painting is needing of warmth by adding warmer earthier tones, heāll add them whether they are there in actuality or not.
most if not all painters will manipulate/alter the image of their motif they see before them in their work if they feel the work is needing of alteration.
so lets get off the subject of manetās painting. and whether there is or isnāt a mirror behind the bartending chick, and painting in general and lets get back to posting about prometheus the movie.
ok?
thank you.
threadā¦
if ya wanna discuss paintings in general, thats what the image mishmash is for. thereās a good number of threads dedicated to that. hell, Havatchu made a watercolor thread located at that subforum.
and no one posts up thereā¦yet you guys wanna discuss manetās painting in detailā¦and debate about it for pagesā¦in the prometheus thread? of all places?
really?
seriously?
The fucking black guys fault as always. Getting some commander cooch while his comrades are dying to liquid snakes that probe your mouth. If he stayed in there like he was supposed too they would of knew what they were dealing with and had a better chance.
there really isnt anything deep or meaningful about the āBar At The Folies Bergereā i dont understand why it would be relevant to a discussion about Prometheus.
and you got a like for that comment stop it youāre not serious.
seriously dudes it was a nice test but theres no hope, you have to fool the public into anything its unbelievable people want to believe and personalities want to not believe
The difference is I expected as much from them them moment they left the group. After that, I also expected them too be stupid enough to try to pet it. If the Captain was there, he would have talked them out of it. I was sure about that. He failed my expectations so my blame is on him I guess.
You have to see the 3 hour 20 minute versionā¦KoH goes from being one of Scottās weaker films into one of his best IMO. Thatās one of his directorās cuts that truly made it a different movie, almost a full hour of character development added back in
Thereās no Ridley movie that doesnāt look good, but his '87-'97 period is kinda of dry outside of Thelma and Louiseā¦and White Squall I guess.
I managed to get a copy, watched it last night. Still hate the movie lol.
Itās just really oddly edited. Random slow mo footage, a short scene will just go into slow mo for no apparent reason. There a few scenes that seem to be cut in the wrong order, it just all feels rather surreal for me. On top of that you have the cheesy perfect knight theme running through, I just want to slap Orlando in the face, his character just comes off condescending most of the time.
Of the extended scenes, I only found the dialog for the muslim characterās and the main villian of any interest.
Ridley wants us to believe that the characters are so in love with city that they would kill each other other it. Everybody seems to be in a love affair with Jerusalem but unfortunately I didnāt. I think itās because there is so much focus on the character development and very little on the city. Itās all about their faith in God, they talk about Jerusalem constantly but I felt no connection. Was that the point?? At the end of the movie the Muslim King says Jerusalem means nothing and everything to him.
For those disappointed with Prometheus, Tyler Perry has announced he is writing a sci-fi